Elected Oregon Democrat Indicted over Stealing from Elderly Citizen
A recently elected Democrat in Oregon has been charged with stealing from a senior citizen and pressured into resigning from her office while awaiting trial.
Melissa Fireside, 43, was elected last November as one of the Clackamas County Commissioners and she assumed the office in January this year. While she was running for a seat on the county commission, police had already launched a criminal investigation into her over allegations of theft. In late October, just a week before the election, police served a search warrant at her house in Lake Oswego.
Fireside continued her campaign rather quietly as the allegations made news and her campaign’s website and Facebook page were taken down, as reported by The Oregonian (December 3, 2024). The story cited an unnamed source to report that the victim of Fireside’s theft was an elderly person.
Three months later, Fireside has been formally indicted on 8 counts of theft that include Aggravated Theft in the First Degree and Identity Theft. A press release by the Oregon Department of Justice (March 5, 2025) briefly specified the charges and mentioned the age of her victim:
Fireside is charged with taking financial advantage of an 83-year-old man while accessing a computer network, as well as forging his and Dobson’s signature as part of the scheme.
The same day, Willamette Week identified the victim as 83-year-old Arthur Wayne Petrone who was defrauded of at least $74,000 by Fireside. The elected Democrat also forged the signature of state Representative April Dobson, also a Democrat.
Fireside did not offer resignation immediately but eventually did so after backlash from the public and her fellow county commissioners. According to The Oregonian, the Board of Commissioners Chair Craig Roberts requested Fireside’s resignation. Fireside has pleaded not guilty and her next court appearance is set for April 28.
Melissa Fireside wasn’t the only elected Democrat making news the past week for criminal activity. The weekend before, a Democrat Representative from the Connecticut House of Representatives was arrested for DUI. Aundré Bumgardner, the Democrat lawmaker, was arrested early Sunday morning (March 2) and charged with DUI and reckless driving, Fox News reported. Bumgardner’s wife was asleep in the backseat as police stopped and arrested the lawmaker, who told the police that his wife was intoxicated and he was driving her home. His blood alcohol level was found to be twice the legal limit when he was arrested.
Doubtless the local media suppressed the story during the campaign.
Another chapter of True Republican Crime to balance what we found in The Dumpster where only one side of the story is told. As is his way to sow and grow division in his adopted land of Orlando.
“Hayden Haynes, the chief of staff to House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., and one of the most powerful aides on Capitol Hill, was arrested after President Donald Trump’s joint address to Congress on suspicion of drunken driving after his car struck a Capitol vehicle, two law enforcement sources told NBC News. Johnson’s office also confirmed the incident.” “Asked Wednesday by NBC News whether Johnson was standing by Haynes, he said, “I am. I am.” (nbc news) Very Tammy Wynette of the Speaker. But who the fuck names their kid Hay Haynes? No wonder he’s a drunk.
“NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned a former Republican Tennessee lawmaker who was two weeks into a 21-month prison sentence for an illegal campaign finance scheme that he pleaded guilty to in 2022, before he tried unsuccessfully to take back his plea. (us news).” Because that’s how Republicans roll; they give “do-overs” to their side and seek retribution from the other, like The Dumpster does.
WILTON, Maine (WMTW) – A Maine State Representative has been indicted on 10 counts of aggravated forgery, as well as one count each of unsworn falsification and criminal violation of the Maine Clean Election, according to our media partners in Portland. ( WABI news)
Also on Trump’s first watch, in 2018, this Republican started selling our secrets to the Chinese: “John Harold Rogers, 63, of Vienna, Virginia, a former Senior Adviser for the Federal Reserve Board of Governors (FRB), was arrested today on charges that he conspired to steal Federal Reserve trade secrets for the benefit of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).” (Trump’s DOJ).
Back in January, “Federal prosecutors on Wednesday filed to withdraw the felony charges lodged against the Lincoln Republican in Washington, D.C., before the case was set to head to trial.” Sure, presumed innocent until pardoned for being guilty. It is the Republican way.
While The Dumpster shames Democrats, he conveniently obscures what he and his party are doing. They break the law too, Trump pardons them for breaking the law, and they indulge in unpatriotic passions like selling our secrets. Not sure it’s better to be their enemy or their friend because their allies like the Kurds, the Ukrainians, and now the Afghans tell us what is means to be a Trump ally: “But for many Afghans like these, who fled across the border to Pakistan after the Taliban took power in August 2021, now is an especially precarious time. The Trump administration has halted the U.S. refugee program, Pakistan wants them out, and their lives may be at risk if they return to their own country.” That’s right, Trump is abandoning tens of thousands of Afghans promised protection by the US of A. “Among those at risk of deportation are tens of thousands of Afghans who were waiting in Pakistan for decisions about their U.S. resettlement applications when President Trump issued his executive order in January suspending the U.S. refugee program. The order pauses the resettlement process responsible for vetting Afghans and other refugees who seek to relocate legally to the United States.” (npr) The Dumpster loves this stuff no doubt.
And in associated news, from The Dumpster’s mother country, the CIA got Pakistan to finally arrest the Pakistani, like The Dumpster, who planned the Abbey Gate bombing perhaps on behalf of Republicans like The Dumpster. The guy was working for ISIS which had been planning this since Trump announced our surrender and began pulling all defensive troops out not noticing that ISIS was recruiting, planning, all out of Pakistan. Also, this month, “Spanish police have arrested 11 Pakistani nationals on suspicion of belonging to the banned terrorist organization, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). According to Spanish media, a joint operation by the National Police, Mossos d’Esquadra, and the Italian Polizia di Stato led to the arrests in Barcelona. The suspects are accused of ties to a Pakistani-origin terrorist organization that promoted violent actions—including murders and beheadings—via encrypted communication channels.” (Jerusalem Post)
I think we know who we should deport next.
That’s president Trump Not dumpster you asshole. You get pissed off when democrat asswipes gets called out.
Tom, try again, you have a misread. I did not call your Felon Sex Abuser King, The Dumpster. I save that for the author.
And I don’t really think about a county commissioner in my own county, much less one in Oregon. You guys are the ones with knickers knotted while stupidly believing party and petty crime are correlated for causation. I just pointed out both party’s have criminals, a point lost in The Dumpster.
Not his fault. He’s from Pakistan.
Demmies are having a collective meltdown circus now that Trump is back as the Ring Master 🙂
And that makes you happy? Sweeeeet.
It’s funny and sad at the same time. Hatred is consuming the left – and I mean the left that preaches love and joy, until it is not in control of the government. Irony surely leans left.
I guess We TP has not portfolio, no 401k, or he’d be crying. I actually made money yesterday, so who’s laughing now? Tis you that seems to enjoy seeing the pain in others. I portended the joylessness of joy, joy, joy.
Getting joy from putting pain in a stranger is your fool’s mission. And if you think your fellows citizens sinking will somehow raise your stature, think again.
You have more than your fair share of criminals in your party starting with the Felon Rapist King as I showed here so wipe that silly grin. I mean the Felon King defines irony.
Two years and keep that chaos coming b
Fellows citizens sinking – yeah sinking in delusions and hysteria straight outta hate. 🙂
Heh, your party wants to take annex Greenland, turn Canada into the 51st state, develop beachfront condos in GAZA after expelling millions of rightful citizens, and retake the Panama Canal because we built it. Oh look, another plane crashes and burns in Denver. Trump blames DEI for helicopter crash. Bird flu ending egg foo young as a dish. It’s so chaotic that the mass shooters have stood down due to confusion. He’s prosecuting prosecutors whose crime was to prosecute cop beaters. On camera. He pardons pedophiles, drug dealers, if they support him. UH, delusion and hysteria? Yesterday Trump claimed he will put a giant tariff on champagne and we will make our own. Or does Don was the US to take over Northeastern France to get the champagne grapes?
As the White House turns gold, gold curtains, gold chairs, gold fake hair, who are you calling delusional?
If Greenlanders and Canadians want to join the US of their own free will, they should have a right to it. GAZA – you mean the place your part allowed to destroy and your party gave standing ovation to the Israeli leader who did it? If Trump wants to relocate the Gazans to safety, that’s a good way to save them from further destruction.
Yes, egg prices coming down despite Dems massacre of the poultry in the final days of the illegitimate walking zombie – the diaper dude – and of course DEI has been causing a lot of crashes and destruction. What’s wrong with calling it out?
Prosecuting criminals whether in or out of uniform is a good thing. What’s wrong there?
Pardons? That’s Biden’s department – I mean the people pulling his strings. His criminal son was pardoned by who again? Biden didn’t pardon him right? Cz he said he wouldn’t. lol
Tariffs on imports – Trump understands business and economy better than anyone on this planet. So it’s gonna be good for America. Inflation is already coming down now that a real president is on the job.
So keep fuming and flaming while America recovers from Demstruction. 🙂
Wow, you talk about being delusional and it suits you: “If Greenlanders and Canadians want to join the US of their own free will, they should have a right to it” except that is not what he is saying; he’s not asking, he’s telling. Canadians and Greenlanders have responded NO so why is he yammering on about it. “GAZA……If Trump wants to relocate the Gazans to safety, that’s a good way to save them from further destruction.” No, Trump wants to mandate the forcible removal of GAZA citizens to countries that do not want them; I guess Trump feels must accept them because of religion and the fact he’s the master dealmaker. And Kushner’s $2B payoff from the Saudis to invest in Israel; nah, that has nothing to do with it.
“Yes, egg prices coming down despite Dems massacre of the poultry in the final days of the illegitimate walking zombie – the diaper dude,” yeah, you like infected birds. Prices came down a bit and they are still the highest egg prices ever. Delusional. And they will go up again as Trump dances about talking about things he’s doing that never get done. Yet another flu he says will go away soon. Trust the dealmaker. NOT.
“and of course DEI has been causing a lot of crashes and destruction.” Name some OR are you just being delusional again? Name one crash caused by DEI. Name anything bad that happened because of DEI. “What’s wrong with calling it out?” That’s what the Romans said to the Christians: “what’s wrong with calling them out and into the arena?”
“Prosecuting criminals whether in or out of uniform is a good thing. What’s wrong there?” Pardoning them is a bad thing, comprende? jeeeeez. Try reading it again.
As to Biden versus Trump pardons of family, friends, and pay-offs: sorry, you take this issue in spades. Trump has let family go, friends go, pedophiles go, drug dealers go, and thousands of 1.6-ers including cop beaters, some with deadly weapons. All free. So, don’t even try, it’s delusional. You come up very short on this one. And yes, Biden was wrong on Hunter and the preemptive’s, but seeing the Felon King of Retribution actions, Biden was spot on to pardon folks in lieu of that shitstorm.
“Tariffs on imports – Trump understands business and economy better than anyone on this planet.” That’s just a lie you cannot prove. He does not even know how tariffs work. He still thinks he can write-down the national debt like his Chapter 11’s, the full half dozen Trump business failures. He would be richer today if he just put Dad’s inheritance into T-bills. On the metrics, there are richer people, far more successful business people, smarter people, more educated people, than the hotel golf course tv reality star of grift. Many people working with him that he appointed use the word: idiot.
“Inflation is already coming down now that a real president is on the job.” Yes, it’s good to have Musk in charge, a smart business man. But inflation was way up in January, down in February, so Trump is batting 50/50 at best, and both numbers are above target. With Easter and Passover coming, good luck on the eggs. Remember, he promised to bring prices down, day 1, it’s day 50 and we still don’t know. He promised to end the Ukraine war before inauguration, nope. He is cancelling the government with indiscriminate budget cuts of Congressional authorization, against the Constitution. He is firing indiscriminately anything he can fire, and unfortunately, then some. He is in the courts, losing, all over the place, over his misdeeds.
You can see a rosy picture, but I think it’s premature at this point and many signs of danger which is how I spell my name :>) Also, he is running up a tab like no tomorrow. Booking $1M military flights for show for deportees instead of flying commercial for a pittance of that $1M. Spending all that extra just to hit deportation numbers less than Biden’s. He fires people, so the taxpayer will eat the unemployment payout. And then they come back. How much does that cost? And where’s the building, where’s the desk, he’s been closing buildings, moving furniture, who’s paying for all this?
The bill will come in April when the GDP numbers come in and you will see America being less than great again after all those good months of Biden economics. And the death toll from us turning out backs and pulling back on aid will be sobering. Planes crashing, the South is burning, Measles in the southwest and expanding, bird flu, this is America being great? What’s our response, what’s the plan? Attack trans? Will that fix it? Already his February 25 deficit is $11B higher than the Feb 24 deficits; that’s a 5% hit in the wrong direction. The February 25 deficit is also 200%+ the January deficit, so you can see where this is going. And the downsizing costs are not even in the mix yet. We’ll see how you whine when the shit hits the fan and he responds like a fish in a hot skillet. Probably will blame you.
He’s just teasing the lib establishments of these places – libs need a better sense of humor. So calm down, drink your whatever-aid, and enjoy the show. Gaza too – the horrific bombings allowed and encouraged by diaper in chief have stopped. Peace is setting in. MAGA is working.
Your have lost all coherence rambling like a headless chicken from this problem to that problem – whatever little things come to your mind. Measles? lols. A harmless disease that has a way lower mortality rate than your chances of choking on your own “danger” spelling. Obama was the president in 2014 when the Disneyland measles scare happened. Wanna blame Barry for it yet?
High prices are coming down and deep state destruction of 4 disastrous years is being reversed. Not even 2 months yet and significant progress. MAGA is working. Libs have lost and are fuming. It’s a good day in America. Change your name to Patriot cz “danger” sounds like a self-proclaimed mentally ill liboo. 🙂
“Measles? lols. A harmless disease that has a way lower mortality rate than your chances of choking on your own “danger” spelling.” Yeah, you are right. It’s not covid where Trump’s response gave us a death rate that ranked 222 out of 238 nations AND over 1 million DEAD. I spell that: danger. And let’s be frank: it was Trump’s fault, not God’s, not the Chinese. And certainly not Anthony Fauci, the reluctant hero of the aids response.
Before the vaccine, measles was a leading cause of death and hospitalization in the United States, with an estimated 48,000 people hospitalized and 400-500 deaths annually. It’s a numbers game and only an idiot would claim “harmless.” Three vectors: contagiousness, hospitalization rate, and death rate. Based on history, it has the POTENTIAL to be a leading cause of hospitalization and death.
Contagiousness. Prior to the introduction of measles vaccination in 1963, there were >100 million measles cases resulting in 6 million deaths worldwide, with 4 million cases and 450 deaths in the US annually. We are heading to surpass that average, even stupider considering we had virtually eradicated the disease in the US.
Hospitalization: CDC says 25% end up in hospital
Death: 1 in 1,000 or .1%
In US, 94% of all current cases are the unvaccinated, wanna bet conservative?
In US, measles was eradicated via vaccine pre-Trump. Under Trump, in 2019, had highest infections since 1992 and he did nothing. Again, 94% of all cases in US are unvaccinated. In 2024, we set more records with 285 cases; so far as of March 13, 2025, a total of 301 confirmed* measles cases were reported by 15 jurisdictions: Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York City, New York State, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, and Washington with 3 major outbreaks and two deaths. About 93% of all cases are in the outbreaks. For example, NJ has one, got it internationally, may have infected two others, and all under quarantine —- no outbreak yet.
For the most part, this is a tragedy of the young below 19 years, with half of that under 5 years due to not being vaccinated because stupid people listen to your stupid comments and the victims are too young to know.
The Trump response: Kennedy said in an opinion piece on the Fox News website that vaccines protect children from measles and contribute to community immunity, he also said the decision to vaccinate is a personal one, that improved sanitation and nutrition prior to introduction of the MMR vaccine in 1963 were responsible for most of the reductions in measles deaths, and that good nutrition “remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses.”
Anyone with a brain and a head not up their ass has emphasized that vaccination is the best way to prevent measles and the rest is a maybe. At best.
Then Kennedy also promoted the benefits of vitamin A for treating measles, which has no specific antiviral treatment. A health alert from the NMDOH notes that while vitamin A may be administered in children and infants who have severe measles as part of supportive management, it will not prevent infection and should not be given prophylactically.
f as in f-rank danger…… autoselectcorrectautofillomundo
Keep trying Dangie, someday you’ll learn to spell your little fake name.
Useless repetition from CDC as a source – long discredited and exposed as nothing but a pharma cartel. So go get some credible source. Measles is a harmless disease that rarely kills. Chances of it causing your death are less than chances of you eating a plague-infected rat by accident and dying from it in your hood.
Trump really did the wrong thing in firing those people. He needs to entirely end the CDC – fire each and every one and stop all funding to the last taxpayer dollar.
WTP: if you call the numbers presented rare, OK, fair enough. 500 dead babies is rare enough to be OK by you. Then again, you like Putin better than RINOs. And you put Putin in front of liberal Americans too. Quite the patriot you are.
The CDC numbers are valid, the statistically methodology is stated, the potential error rate stated, it’s a peer-reviewed study that has be unassailable for decades. You accusation is unfounded, you have offered no evidence to the contrary. Do you have evidence cause it really seems you are blowing in out your ass. And when someone provides contrary evidence, you claim it’s a bad, bad, source. Or something as equally dumb, without evidence again, as is your way.
Come on, I like the discussion, but you offer nothing but spew. No support, no experts, no evidence.
Does your daughter call you “danger “ when you and her are playing secret games?
What 500 dead babies? Your numbers lack evidence. Present some.
Putin has done zero damage to the country. Demmies have destroyed whole cities and states and endangered national security at every step of the way – same for RINOs. So yeah I like Putin as more America-friendly than you, who hates America and wants to bring it down.
CDC can claim whatever it wants. But that doesn’t mean it is valid. Prove how it is valid. Show real evidence. But you are filling the place with gas from your black hole – probably Hemorrhoidal, lols.
Now you want to give it another try or just keep gassing the place?
It will be great to have a real discussion. With you it’s not possible because you have no intelligence, no reason, no knowledge, and no ability to comprehend. You are a braindead typing DANG-er. Is that how you spell your stupid name?
WTP makes many erroneous conclusions but offers no facts, no sources, no proof to his often-insane allegations. He claims his proof that I am a liar is that he does not believe my sources. But he offers no facts, no sources to that delusional claim.
I offer facts, valid sources, and WTP says they are all lies because they are all liars. And that’s his proof that I am a liar. He offers no proof.
CDC are liars, WIKI is fake because self-reported and peer reviewed. He says peer-reviewed is false because no peer list provided. He says the media is fake news. His only truth: Trump.
He claims the measles vaccine is ineffective; both Trump and RFKjr disagree. He claims the covid vaccine is dangerous. Billions who took it disagree. And so on.
As he makes these inane allegations, he offers no proof. He does not answer one question posed to him on his “facts,” allegations, and scuttlebutt. No one answer.
He says a million didn’t die from covid because I did not provide forensic reports for each death. He
WTP answers not one question posed to him. His response is to say I am a liar, my sources are liars, etc. He offers no proof, no evidence, no sources, no experts, just allegations and questioning that which is already known, proven, and often —- time-tested.
Trump has fired 1,300 CDC staffers that alert and protect us from sickness like measles. As Don has said, if you can’t count it, it does not exist. He nailed 1,200 at NIH, that’s like 10% of NIH and CDC gone while there is no response to Measles, bird flu, etc. He also gutted FDA’s ability to process new drug applications.
My point is why do you continue to listen to these liars? Delusional?
At the current rate: 1,800 cases, 360 hospitalized, 180 dead when the answers could be 0, 0, and 0 if they only got a shot. Now you can say ho hum, low number, but it’s over 500 dead babies at under 5 years of age. And our response is to fire 10% of the people who protect us.
Here’s what happens: Trump will continue to gut CDC, NIH, and FDA. He will “adapt” reporting mechanisms so we will be blind as to where the outbreaks are and how severe they might be. Trump’s and Musk’s families will be vaccinated by doctors coming to their homes.
The liar who is throwing his lies in here is called DANGer – will that be you I guess. Your stats lack credibility as they come from corrupt and discredited sources. Vaccines have been exposed as useless and dangerous so more people are ditching them. The so-called outbreaks are harmless and your chances of accidentally killing yourself by jumping in your own oven are far higher. But keep taking those shots – after all who’s gonna miss you anyways? 🙂
Again, you have no evidence shown to support your claims. Covid outbreaks were not harmless, we lost a million people, many experts claim Trump’s response killed a lot. Our metrics for death rate come in at 222 out of 238 countries. *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country*
Apparently, you claim 500 deaths per year, mostly under 5, is harmless even if a simple shot would make the 500 deaths turn into 500 lives, mostly under 5, so long ones, hopefully. Whether that’s OK IS a debatable point and I say, for a simple shot, why kill a kid per month in every state in the land. You say meh,, no biggee, that’s ok. Not by me.
Show me the facts where CDC is discredited on this type of assessment? You can’t, unless you lie.
And you’re still here?
Oh you used Wiki as a source, haha. A source that anybody can log in and edit. But the claim that a million people died of COVID is not supported with evidence even on wiki. Do you have forensic repots for each death to prove it was a COVID-caused death? I don’t see any on the wiki page. SO come back when you have the ACTUAL evidence.
And again, what is the evidence that 500 deaths are occurring per year among those under 5? The claim that the shot saves them is just that – an unproven claim. Maybe you can try some better with come up with actual evidence to prove it?
First, show me the evidence that CDC is credible. And unless you do so, you are lying and DANG-ing around. Now go search for evidence 🙂
WTP makes many erroneous conclusions but offers no facts, no sources, no proof to his often-insane allegations. He claims his proof that I am a liar is that he does not believe my sources. But he offers no facts, no sources to that delusional claim.
I offer facts, valid sources, and WTP says they are all lies because they are all liars. And that’s his proof that I am a liar. He offers no proof.
CDC are liars, WIKI is fake because self-reported and peer reviewed. He says peer-reviewed is false because no peer list provided. He says the media is fake news. His only truth: Trump.
He claims the measles vaccine is ineffective; both Trump and RFKjr disagree. He claims the covid vaccine is dangerous. Billions who took it disagree. And so on.
As he makes these inane allegations, he offers no proof. He does not answer one question posed to him on his “facts,” allegations, and scuttlebutt. No one answer.
He says a million didn’t die from covid because I did not provide forensic reports for each death. He offers no facts to the contrary. Hey, if it’s only half right, then the Trump response would result in the US being 111 out of 238 countries; yeah, that’s our result if the data in only half right making WTP totally wrong. There is a multitude of sources validating the million dead. WTP has offered no source, no evidence, no proof that it is not true except to say it is not true. He says that he sees zero covid deaths. That is a lie.
He says Operation Warp Speed was brilliant even as it delivered results in third place after Russia and China. Our first vaccine was made by Pfizer/Biotech, EU companies, that did not use Operation Warp Speed except for distribution at the end. Not development There is no doubt that OWS was instrumental in the developments, but and out and out winner —- that’s just what Trump said and WTP believes.
Now he questions age-old data on the ravages of measles throughout our history. But he has no proof, just vapid allegations. He questions the efficacy of the measles vaccine, but he has no proof, no evidence, no experts, no sources. The evidence of the efficacy of the measles vaccine is mountainous and time-tested for accuracy. It’s 98% meaning we could stop these outbreaks in a week with vaccinations.
He says the CDC is not credible. He has no proof, no evidence, no experts, no sources. He says I am a liar because he can’t provide proof that the CDC is not credible.
But he believes Trump.
WTP answers not one question posed to him. His response is to say I am a liar, my sources are liars, etc. He offers no proof, no evidence, no sources, no experts, just allegations and questioning that which is already known, proven, and often —- time-tested.
DANG-er woke up with the urge to go litter the place with his repetitive lies and gibberish. He has zero evidence to offer and relies on the disgraced and discredited propaganda machinery that his fellow leftist are paid to run for the industry.
Note that to his convenience he would cite Trump as a source that believes in vaccine when he has called Trump a liar and a criminal countless times. This is the hallmark of a moron like this propagandist DANGer.
In response to my demand for coming up with evidence, he just returned without any though he did bring his plenty of smelly gas to bomb us to nausea and vomit. He cannot prove that anything called COVID-19 killed people because he cannot research or find facts. On the contrary he is allergic to facts.
DANGer also quickly jumps to praise Russia and China over America for developing a vaccine faster – the countries that he otherwise bashes as tyrannical and even terrorist. His lies go boundless as he tries to take the vaccine credit away from Trump by claiming the credit goes to Europe when the vaccine’s development was fast-tracked – thus directly enabled – by the Trump admin with NIH and FDA involved at every step of the development. Such is the extent of this uneducated moron’s lies.
He thinks by repeating the lies about measles and the useless and dangerous vaccine as effective and harmless will make a case of credibility. Who’s gonan tell him? Lol
Then this liar DANGer who cites Trump as a source for vaccine’s credibility takes a U-turn and mentions Trump as someone not worthy of believing. See how collective schizophrenia works in libtards?
DANGer has no answers, no evidence, and even no reasonable questions. He is a broken record likely bought and paid for by the globalist cabal that also owns his masters on the left. His lies fall apart when tested against truth and evidence.
WTP makes many erroneous conclusions but offers no facts, no sources, no proof to his often-insane allegations. He claims his proof that I am a liar is that he does not believe my sources. But he offers no facts, no sources to that delusional claim.
Never have I seen so many fallacies in logic as in his last passage, a culmination of his recent rants of rage. He uses mirror logic to deflect my allegations and questions of his arguments back on me. Of course, without proof, evidence, etc. He abounds in Bulverism, tone policing is traitorous critic fallacies to make feckless points. He answers no questions, provides no information, no facts to the contrary or otherwise. It’s a rant against me without factual substance. It’s a rant claiming all facts and sources I provide as false not because he can prove it, but because I did not, to his satisfaction.
WTP whines: “DANGer also quickly jumps to praise Russia and China over America for developing a vaccine faster.” You are a liar. Nowhere did I praise China or Russia; you do praise Putin. I just stated the fact they developed their vaccines faster than Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. FYI: theirs sucked. Ours only sucks in your weak, rumor filled, propagandized mind. Instead of talking to the facts, you divert to this bullshit you made up to begin with. That’s a stretch, Stretch.
He lies, a lot. Example: “he would cite Trump as a source that believes in vaccine when he has called Trump a liar and a criminal countless times. This is the hallmark of a moron like this propagandist DANGer.” Uh, he can’t fathom how one might quote Trump, without diminishing the fact that Trump is a liar and a criminal? Especially given the audience, him, that ONLY believes Trump and not much else that I can see.
He lies a lot like “His lies go boundless as he tries to take the vaccine credit away from Trump by claiming the credit goes to Europe when the vaccine’s development was fast-tracked – thus directly enabled – by the Trump admin with NIH and FDA involved at every step of the development. Such is the extent of this uneducated moron’s lies.”
Sputnik V covid vaccine: approved by Russia, August 2020
SinoPharm covid vaccine: approved by China, July 2020
December 2020: Oxford, England. Pfizer, US. Moderna, US.
Prove that wrong.
The Pfizer is made by Biotech, a German Pharmacutical, and did not use Operation Warp Speed for development. Kathrin Jansen, a senior vice president and the head of vaccine research and development at Pfizer, said, “We were never part of the Warp Speed,” adding, “we have never taken any money from the U.S. government, or from anyone.”
Prove that wrong.
BUSTED and WTP should realize by now that I do not lie, I can usually support, source, and link most of the facts I state. I spell my name: danger. I don’t hide behind “the people,” or spew spurious claims I pull out of my ass to protect my Felon King. I welcome pushback, but will claim bullshit like this to be BUSTED every time.
He says he “demands evidence,” ooh scary, a demand. But what he wants is raw data; the evidence was already provided. For proof of one million dead from covid, which he feels never happened, he asks “Do you have forensic repots for each death,” which seems to indicate he thinks these were MURDERS since a coroner’s report is issued after death; forensic reports are for crime investigations, and since this is DEATH, I guess WTP thinks it’s M U R D E R. Many experts agree that the Trump response murdered hundreds of thousands. Easy to see when you use the WIKI numbers, take the 222 rating, turn it into 111 and see how many lives would have been saved if we just had a response as good at the best 100 countries. His proof that this is wrong is that WIKI is never right, I am a liar, and only Trump tells the truth.
He has no evidence, no sources, no proof, etc.
Yet, being honest, in actuality he may have a point that is not at top of his head. What we know is these dead people had covid. In many cases, we may not know absolutely the covid was the proximate cause, and never will. But we know they have covid. Why? In the early days, no one in their right mind would do an autopsy for fear of infection. Once procedures and PPE were good, often the numbers precluded autopsies or not ordered by government or family. So the number is a million; how low do you go before you can see Trump’s response was really bad? 500,000 — that puts us at 111 out of 238 countries. 250,000, hey, now we looking at coming in at 50, not exactly number one or even in the top ten. I knew where your misconception started, but the math turns against you anyway.
Son, I spell my name: danger. I deal if facts. I have provided valid sources that you cannot prove as invalid. I have provided validated facts that you have not disputed except to whine that they are fake.
In lieu of the evidence that I provide, you provide circular logic and many other logical fallacies and ploys to divert the discussion from the truth.
BUSTED
I would like to get back to the discussion. This was and is useless to debate logical fallacies and fallacious falsehoods by a dude who can’t support his shit nor respond to simple questions.
DANG-er has no evidence to offer nut repetitive lies from discredited sources. His own mental state seems imbalanced and has delusional psychosis written all over him.
He suffers from the delusion that if he uses a certain word, like logic, multiple times in his answer, he would sound familiar with the meaning and substance of that word. When he says “fallacy” he forgets to cite his own rants to convince us that he indeed is familiar with it; he is actually quite good at it, whether it’s learned or inborn.
Self-contradiction is a defining quality of DANG-er’s infantile attempts at reasoning. He praises Russia and China for fast-tracking their vaccines yet admits that Trump did a better job than them. He hates them all but to his frustration, they all developed the vaccines fast. And he says the vaccines developed by China and Russia suck when it’s DANG-er who sucks.
Trump lives rent-free in DANG-er’s head while DANG-er seemingly lives rent-free in someone’s basement. So he keeps getting back at Trump. The fact that Trump is again his president and defeated his criminal gang is too much for him to get over. Imagine a life like his…
DANG-er’s pretension of being aware of research meets reality check when he cites a Pfizer executive to claim they did not receive any money from the government. But published research supports my truth – government-funding was done throughout the development of the vaccine as detailed in the paper “US Taxpayers Heavily Funded the Discovery of COVID‐19 Vaccines” at pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8426978/. Let’s see how the basement clown tries to spin this one. And to give him his favorite: BUSTED!
DANG-er says he can spell his name. Aren’t we all in awe of such a talent? Alas, his ignorance overshadows this remarkable ability. He cannot prove that COVID killed his alleged million plus people because he has no evidence. When I asked for autopsy/forensic evidence, he lost it as he knew he couldn’t prove a thing. Forensic is also required in all these cases because millions suspected many of these deaths as killings by hospital’s criminal neglect – particularly in New York where patients were put on ventilators and were suspected to have been killed by that practice.
One thing DANG-er is good at is cite so-called “experts” – though he won’t actually name one or a few. So his laughable statement that experts agree that Trump murdered people flies in his face as proving that claim would require a forensic probe in each individual’s death. Those “experts” are actually chronic TDS patients, and by that standard DANG-er is an expert.
The dead people had COVID – is a claim not proven by science. The test used to detect the so-called COVID is scientifically not reliable. And even if they had it, it doesn’t mean they died because of it. You need an autopsy and careful medical examination by a trained pathologist to actually rule out any other causes, including medical neglect. And there goes poor little DANG-er’s little castle of pretense again!
DANG-er created a little game of math with made-up numbers and some infantile rationale that doesn’t make sense. Anyone here speaks DANG-erese to help make any sense of it? Oh never mind, libtards have nothing to do with sense.
And then ladies and gentlemen, after all the nonsensical rant littering the cyber space on this blog, the one-and-only DANG-er pats himself on the back for proving everything with evidence and reason. He tries to impress us with the words he recently learnt – “logical fallacies” and “fallacious falsehoods” LOLS.
Hey DANG-er, you just got BUSTED!!!!!! Till next time, keep looking for your brain
Hats off to WTP for his attempt at a cogent argument with actual facts and sources. Great start and shows incredible potential. Too bad you have to be so dickish about the rest of your spew about my character, personality, and physical attributes. Never saw the word “suck” used so much. Strange predilection there, Bud. Glad I didn’t say vagina, too many letters for you….. :>)
After three long, very long and boring emotional paragraphs of spew about my personal character by this guy, he actually goes for a link to blow away my claim that Pfizer/Biotech did not use funding from Operation Warp Speed or OWS. From National Library of Medicine, a trustworthy source. He spews that “published research supports my truth – government-funding was done throughout the development of the vaccine as detailed in the paper “US Taxpayers Heavily Funded the Discovery of COVID‐19 Vaccines.”
No spin Sherlock, I never said different. OWS spent $18B supporting development of covid vaccines from six different players. Fucking Pfizer/Biotech was not one of them, your own article states: “Operation Warp Speed (OWS) invested billions of dollars in conducting rigorous clinical trials and in manufacturing with the participation of Moderna, AstraZeneca/Oxford, Johnson and Johnson, and Sanofi/GSK. In total, over $18 billion dollars of US public funds have been invested in 6 vaccine candidates.” No Pfizer/Biotech and oh my, there’s GSK — don’t you think they belong in jail over their sexual perversion side-effects in another drug? Sorry, I digress.
BUSTED and I further BUST your BUST of me, copycat.
If you had bothered to actually read what you posted, you might find some very interesting truths like how much the US, not Trump, but before Trump, how much the US funded this and how early. The story begins decades before Trump and covid with RNA technology funding from DARPA, NIAID, primarily NIAID which is part of NIH which is being slashed my President Musk. No more breakthroughs like this; let China and Russia do that shit. Fuck off to medicines like this in the future and bear in mind, mRNA took decades to create it’s first products like the covid vaccines. Decades. Your Felon King is screwing the pooch for our children’s future medicine like the covid vaccines.
Back to our story: in 1985, an immigrant bitch comes to America to be ignored by our universities. She perseveres and after 20 years gets a grant to research RNA. Today, she would need to pay $5M to get to the US with Trump’s gold card. Trump has killed immigration, killed taxpayer supported medical research, and killed any development like the RNA technology for four years. How many lives lost?
By 2008 we have RNA companies sprouting up, like German Biotech, and they form the foundation of what Trump supported in 2020, a decade later. There is no doubt that OWS sped the world’s development of the covid vaccine. There is also no doubt that Pfizer/Biotech took no dollars from OWS —- WTP’s article says so, he just missed it. When you post an article, you should read it.
You were not wrong in what you said, but given the context and your knowledge of what you were researching, you were at best spinning to lie, and at worst, totally stupid. I am from New Jersey, pretty hard to sell me a bridge, especially the ones you travel.
But as to where did Pfizer/Biotech’s money come from, the article states: “Pfizer’s often‐repeated statement that it invested ~ $2 billion and did not receive any government research funding to develop its vaccine paints an incomplete picture, because its partner BioNTech received $445 million in funding from the German government to assist with COVID‐19 vaccine development. BioNTech is now licensing the NIH’s patented pre‐fusion spike protein technology.” So, yes, they got some government money from the German Government that Mush stands against.
Great article WTP, one that I highly recommend. Nice pick WTP, next time actually read it to avoid that foot in the mouth feeling. It also highlights the time, like decades, it takes to make these things. That’s more time than any Trump, Biden, etc. can buy you. Takes generations to bear fruit and it’s safe to say that we would not have RNA or mRNA today if it wasn’t for covid, and OWS paying to reach the end zone. BUT — Pfizer/Biotech got no funding from Trump and today, Trump is performing a slash and burn on all of the organizations and people who invest lifetimes in developing new shit to fight disease.
Covid deaths. WTP basically ignores all facts, figures, and statistics. He ignores all experts, discounts all reports and instead continues to demand forensics reports which he knows can never happen; either thenm now, or ever. Here’s hundreds of sources to our million deaths: * https://www.google.com/search?q=did+1+million+americans+die+from+covid&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1148US1148&oq=did+1+million+americans+die+from+covid&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAjIHCAIQIRiPAjIHCAMQIRiPAtIBCTEwNTkzajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8*
Let’s see WTP post counter evidence including expert-calls for forensic reports. Let’s see WTP post data showing how well we did against other countries, or any country for that matter. Probably just spew more hatred to divert.
From his NIH source, here’s an article suggesting that there are MORE covid deaths, not less: * https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/many-deaths-attributed-natural-causes-during-covid-19-pandemic-may-have-instead-been-due-virus* Uh, oh….. “The largest gaps between these excess deaths and reported COVID-19 deaths were in rural areas, the West, and the South.” Remember, Trump and now WTP use the “more is less” scientific methodology like when Trump said: “‘If We Stop Testing, We’d Have Fewer Cases.” Places like Florida even changed methodology and each time, they found less covid (because they stopped looking or cooked the books). And if you stop reporting death, you will have less death reported. Not my cup of tea, but WTP’s apparently. You should see what I can do for data with some white-out and a sharpie.
But how many deaths do you really expect to exclude from a million and then expect that number to make us great? At 25% of the current total for covid death, the Trump response still sucks. Yeah, we are that bad and, worse yet, folks like WTP turn a blind eye to the data. Heads in the sand.
This reminds me of our highest cost property tax in the nation here in NJ where our POLS consistently promise massive discounts for seniors. YES, and the massive discount means seniors who were paying the highest property taxes in the nation will get a 10% discount and pay the highest property tax in the land. Yeah, Trump’s covid deaths and NJ property taxes are just THAT bad.
As to the math, sure, you can pooh pooh wiki, they are getting nailed for bias as I type. BUT —- when you rate 222 out of 238 countries and you have a million dead, it’s pretty hard to say —- nah, we are number one!!!!! And, as I showed, even if you say they are a mile off the mark and reduce the million to 250,000 — that would put us near New Zealand, not great but pretty good at least. FYI: I did this very death rate/million to keep it as close to apples to apples as possible. And if I remember correctly, NZ did great and then lost it in the later surges. Relaxed. I forget the winners, but China, South Korea, and New Zealand rank well I think. Brown University pandemic center said this: “The U.S. stands out as a clear outlier: although among the highest prepared, it experienced the third-highest aged-adjusted mortality – more than eight times higher than what would have been expected.” WTP: at 8 times higher than expected, I think we can rule the Trump response a failure. A total failure. This is important stuff and you can’t even acknowledge it due to your Trump blind spot to even the most simple of truths.
How come you never report on Republican malfeasance?
https://minnesotareformer.com/2025/03/18/gop-state-sen-justin-eichorn-arrested-for-suspicion-of-soliciting-sex-with-a-16-year-old-girl/
State Sen. Justin Eichorn, R-Grand Rapids, was arrested in Bloomington on suspicion of soliciting a minor for sex.