What if Trump was Right? Is our Constitution Broken?
First, Let’s get our facts straight. Trump did not say to terminate the Constitution. Second, despite the media’s insistence, January 6th was a protest – not a riot, not an insurrection (watch the videos closely sometime…).
If you believe other than this, then either you are a Democrat (and can’t be faulted for your programmed ignorance) or you have not been paying attention and examining the evidence enough to know the truth.
Here is Trump’s response: “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution,” he wrote Monday on Truth Social. What he really said, Mr. Trump insisted, was only that the 2020 election “SHOULD GO TO THE RIGHTFUL WINNER OR, AT A MINIMUM, BE REDONE.”
Trump’s point is that if the election is illegally influenced, and fair elections cannot be held under the Constitutional requirements, then we have installed a tyranny. Think about that word, “tyranny.”
He is correct about this – going all the way back to “taxation without representation.” The American Revolution was fought because America did not have a say in how we were governed. If Trump is correct and the election was stolen, isn’t that the same thing, that we are not represented by the person we elected? What other definition of tyranny can you think of?
Whether it is a big tyranny or a small one will be revealed in 2024, after the first term of the worst President in history, whose damage will be long-lasting in America and around the world. A Republican should be able to win under that circumstance. That will tell us where our Constitution is still working.
But let’s examine our situation.
We have Democrat-controlled media. Elon Musk seems to have liberated Twitter from the liberals, and he has exposed direct illegal actions by the Twitter staff (with FBI collusion) influencing the 2020 elections. This is fact.
But Facebook, Google and Amazon are still under Democrat control. They blatantly support liberal candidates and foil conservative candidates. Think I am wrong? I publish in the conservative space, I see this every day, and can cite dozens of instances where my efforts were blocked for no other possible reason than political ideology.
You may be wondering about the reach of Amazon (besides that Bezos owns the Washington Post). Did you know that Amazon has one of the largest, most effective and most inexpensive email platforms in the country that sends multiple billion emails per month? And yes, no conservatives allowed. I know this firsthand.
Despite the denials from Democrats, a great deal of voter fraud has been uncovered from the 2020 election. If you watch the documentary “2000 Mules” you will see overwhelming evidence of illegal ballot harvesting. Thanks to Governor DeSantis’ Office of Election Fraud, a Democrat ballot harvesting operation in Florida was busted and 20 people were arrested. Witnesses said this had been going on for DECADES. Does anyone believe there were not other operations like this? Like perhaps in Pennsylvania? There are tons of other examples.
And as we have seen from the Twitter documents and the Hunter Biden laptop censorship, parts of the FBI and CIA are working politically on behalf of the Democrats. Openly, aggressively and notoriously.
So let’s summarize.
- Fascist-level control of the media? Check.
- Questionable if not crooked elections? Check.
- Law enforcement and other national resources co-opted for political purposes? Check.
Are talking about Venezuela? No. This is America. This is actually happening here and does not seem to be self-correcting as the checks and balances in Constitution were designed to accomplish.
Republicans are afraid to say any of this. In fact, a number of traditionally conservative and Trump-supporting media outlets (including PBP, Fox, WSJ and Newsmax) are coming out with not so flattering articles on Trump. They all realize that Liberal Mainstream media, plus Google, Facebook and Amazon will pound them into submission. Despite Trump’s strong following, an association with him now carries a high level of punishment from these entities.
Is America completely one-sided? Does one party have absolute control over our elections? No, it does not seem to be this way. At least not yet.
If one were into conspiracy theories, one might believe the “Overlords” really running the country might not want one party to dominate. If it were true, this would be even scarier. But it is certainly a good question as to who is holding the purse and pulling strings behind the scenes. (I was once told by a CIA analyst that in general, 50 people control everything in a country. I asked him who they were in America, I never saw anyone backpedal so fast.)
I’ve already proposed how to fix the media. This can be done cheaply and effectively.
The rest can be fixed (or broken even more) by electing a Republican as President.
But what if our Constitution is broken? Do we want to live with a Constitution that can so easily be circumvented? President Trump calls for re-doing the election or just installing himself as President. But the Constitution does not provide for anyone in authority anywhere to do this.
And the authorities that exist (assuming illegality) have no motivation whatsoever to use national resources to try to establish the truth. Others are just cowards. You may recall that a great many lawsuits were brought to bear after the 2020 election. The Supreme Court refused to hear any of them.
I’ve learned never to dismiss anything that President Trump says. He often says things that can be twisted and manipulated by the mainstream media.
But Trump always has a valid point.
Sometimes the way some people try to mislead us with the constitution is very broken
the constatution has been broken by the criminals in the gov , democraps and rhinos, the doj and fbi ,number one is biden and admin,! tearing this country apart and kissing ass of the comunist and terrorist nations out to destroy this nation!
I was able to legally vote when the 26th Amendment was ratified. Prior to that, I could have won a free trip to Vietnam, paid for by our government. I chose to serve after I could vote, instead. I’ve been following politics quite closely since, and am aware that the only reason Mr. Trump won in 2016 was because a lot of American voters were fed up with both wings of the Republicrat Party. For half a century, neither the Republican nor the Democrat wings of this single Party did anything for the poorer 90% of American citizens. Instead, by moving jobs overseas, deregulating financial institutions, and allowing the wealthy to hold more of our nation’s riches while taxing them at a lower rate than the median American working class, it became apparent that both wings of this Party were only concerned with the wealthy and Corporate America. Since most, if not all, of Congress are in the 10% category, it makes sense to them. Sadly, they stay in power because many of the 90% don’t realize that we do not have a race problem here, but a wealth problem, and they keep voting in candidates who support the rich.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT. BUT IT IS SAD THAT CITIZENS VOTE FOR THE SAME OLD USELESS CORRUPT POLITICIANS TIME AFTER TIME. TERM LIMITS ARE NEEDED.
LOOK AT BIDEN, SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR NOTHING BUT HIS CRONIES AND PORK. THIS ALONE SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR IMPEACHMENT, PLUS OPEN BORDERS, WOKE, AND ALL THIS LOOTING , NO LAW AND ORDER ETC IT JUST GOES ON AND ON.
BIDENS REGIME IS CORRUPT MOST ARE UNFIT FOR THEIR JOB, GOT HIRED NOT ON MERIT BUT COLOR AND GENDER.PLUS BIDEN GOES ON VACATION NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS ARE . CARES NOTHING FOR OUR NATION.
We have a judicial problem politically biased and gut less judges and FBI totally favoring Demonrats. It is not the constitution that’s the problem it’s the people who were elected (selected) to uphold it.
Republicans hold about a 5% advantage in the appointment of federal judges.
Democrats have one more judge then Republicans appointed at the appeals level.
You are wrong
I did watch the video. fake news outlets like this is part of the problem!
Another Democrat. I’m betting you were watching the video while CNN was telling you what to think.
And you were listening to the gospel from Alex Jones. Or maybe the big liar himself.
Boiling it all down to the lowest common denominator I believe this: the hate for Christians (conservatives) comes from a deep seated knowledge, written on every heart, that the very Christ they reject will one day force them to acknowledge him and pay the price for their sins.
Even the jews?
I AM SO GLAD AT LEAST ONE PERSON HAS IT RIGHT.
ALL DEMOCRATS ARE CORRUPT. JUST LIKE THE OBAMAS THEY ARE OUT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.
What a crock of shit. You lost any sign of being relevant in the first few paragraphs. Stating Jan 6 was a protest merley shows your far right leanings and actual disdain for the constitution
Actually I hit the nail on the head. You are a Democrat. So you are excused.
You did hit the nail on the head with the definition, protest, riot, and insurrection for what went on during January 6 at Trump’s invitation.
But, imo, as usual, you have your priorities mixed up.
It was an insurrection inside a riot inside a protest.
In other words, there was a protest going on, that took place outside the barricades. Inside the barricades and throughout the capital, there was a riot going on. Inside that, and inside the capital, there was an insurrection being attempted.
Proof: it’s called seditious conspiracy, look it up. Insurrection.
Proof: you tell me what went on inside, the capital was a protest. it was the same type of riot that went on in many cities during the summer of Floyd. Property destroyed, violence to others, riot.
I am just not sure how you cannot see that. I don’t think this is opinion, I think this is fact. In fact, proved by the courts.
Another Democrat, thoroughly programmed. You are excused.
I think when multiple Trumplicants are covicted of seditious conspiracy, the word insurrection can be used.
Look up the charge, it’s pretty clear.
Read the testimony, it’s pretty clear
I don’t think that’s about being a Republican or Democrat, That’s just an excuse. It’s about being an American, believing in our Constitution, our laws, and our government.
Don’t trash that.
WHAT COURTS??? IN THE POCKET OF WHAT PARTY???
I THINK IT IS A DISGRACE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THESE PRISONERS.
DEMOCRATS ARE LYING SCUM, HATE OUR COUNTRY. SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO WHITEWASH WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING.
WE LIVED UNDER HITLER, YOU HAVE NO IDEA. SO DO NOT SPEAK OUT AND GIVE FALS INFORMATION. UNLESS YOU LIVED IT, LEARN YOUR HISTORY.
YES! . . . The DEMOCRATS broke it (and it’s being REPAIRED) by the COURT system. The Democrats, ESPECIALLY Biden, are VERY corrupt and LAWLESS.
“So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great “Founders” did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
Donald J. Trump, twice-impeached, one-term President charged with protection of the Constitution.
I just waived my hand and the Constitution was gone……I have the power….. A massive fraud allows for the termination of the Constitution. How much clearer could the man say it JOE……. He can’t walk it back, he’s tried to rationalize, but he said it and you know Trump. If he says it, odds are, he will try it. “I can shoot someone and get away with it” Tell that to the family of Ashli Babbit.
What’s wrong Joe lost your tongue. You certainly, due back to everyone else but when it comes to Trump seven words, you got nothing.
Still no witty comeback on Trump’s actual words? Say it ain’t so Joe.
Yes, the Constitution is broken in many places of its foundation! If the socialist dem-o-rats and their big tech (Provda) MSM keep at it. And the corrupt elections that are being covered by appointed leftwing judges, make it more difficult to fix!
Our constitution ain’t broken. It’s being abused by people allowing politicians and so-called lawmakers twist it and justify pushing communist policies. I see the results of it from the leftist fools like Frank and Bibfy and some other idiots posting on this website. I read an article that patriotism is much lower in America than not so many years ago. It’s scary. But many of us will go down swinging It’s time to honor and respect the constitution or get the hell out of the country. And take your communion with you. Many of us are getting sick and tired of the bullshit. America. Love it or leave it.
Ha ha Clifford. You’re losin it. Keep on swinging, hating, and whining, you big trailer trash pos.
By all means, if you can’t have your way, cry me a river.
The people spoke in 2016 and the people replied to that in 2020, doubled down in 2022, and we will see what they say in 2024.
Your supreme leader wants to reinstall himself as King by overturning the Constitution and you want to suck his left nut. Open up, buttercup. Swing on that. ha ha
You want a threesome with Trump and my dead manma?
Wow, you b 1 tough guy on an anonymous web site.
What else you got, buttercup?
Just so you know. Trump’s ship has sailed. He’s not even going to get nominated. So give it a break. The republicans will be back in office probably next time. But you go ahead and suck commie ass because your crowd will never govern people like me and many others in my circle. Don’t doubt me. The scotus will finally do their jobs. So you bastards will go and attack them
They are already making things right.
GOP IS NOT FOR COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM THEY ARE NOT MARXISTS, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THIS, WE LIVED UNDER IT. HERE NO ONE KNOWS HISTORY, LET BLM TAKE DOWN OUR STATUES OUR HISTORY, NO ONE SAID A WORD PELOSI AND ALL THESE DEMOCRATS KNEELED IN FRONT OF BLM. HOW DISGUSTING WAS THIS?? SHAME ON ANY DEMOCRAT, THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT, HATE DECENT CHRISTIAN CITIZENS. TRY TO TURN OUR COUNTRY IN TO A THIRD WORLD S**T HOLE.
WE HAVE NO LAW AND ORDER. BIDEN AND ALL THESE DEMOCRATS CALLED FOR ABOLISH THE POLICE, AFTER THE SCUMBAG FLOYD DIED. HE WAS JUST A LOW LIVE CRIMINAL. BUT BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS MADE HIM IN TO A HERO.
HEY CHANEY THE TRAITOR WILL NEVER BE SPEAKER, WE SUFFERED UNDER PELOSI TO MANY YEARS.
HER FATHER WAS MAYOR, SO AFTER HER BROTHER AND HIS FRIEND RAPED THIS GIRL HE GOT OFF SCOTT FREE, THAT’S HOW DEMOCRATS ABIDE BY THE LAW.
JUST LOOK AT SCHIFF, SCHUMER, NADLER , ALL THE REST OF THESE SWAMP CREATURES.
I understand you are misunderstood and frustrated.
You don’t make sense
He’s the leader of yoyr party.
My crowd, if you mean democrats, if you mean federal, does govern you in partnership, albeit rocky, your crowd.
Either you follow the law or you’re a criminal.
Are you admitting to a crime?
You poor misunderstood frustrated little man. I feel so sorry for you. .
Then I’m a criminal. Come and get me asshole.
Anytime that Joe Gilbertson says something is a fact, you can guarantee that the truth is the exact opposite of what he says. The first “fact”: Trump didn’t say he wanted to terminate the Constitution, and cited as “proof” is Trump’s own backpedaling and squirming away from what he said. Quote: “termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution”… Note the use of “all”… in other words, Trump wants to dissolve the Constitution for his own benefit.
Trump (and Gilbertson) call the elections rigged and unfair and fraud and crooked, without a shred of evidence, and want to crown him King of the US just because he says so. There’s a reason that the Supreme Court kept rejecting Trump’s election lawsuits – his evidence was, in every case, a steaming load of horse crap. and even his own appointees wouldn’t touch it. That has not changed. In the last two years, there STILL is no evidence of fraud (but plenty of copy-cat Republicans trying the same trick).
If you look at the Declaration of Independence, it is a laundry list of reasons to break from the King – ignoring laws (everything from Trump’s business practices, to his attempts to destroy NATO, to blackmailing a foreign governement for personal gain, to his family and business benefitting from foreign bribery), creating standing armies among the people in times of peace (think about Trump’s unmarked militias that showed up to crack heads at peaceful protests, or clear a church so Trump could stand there with his… upside-down Bible… in his hand for a photo op), abolishing our most valuable laws” (Trump’s call for terminating the Constitution), “suspending our own Legislatures” (Trump creating alternate electors to bypass states’ legislatures), “excited domestic insurrections amongst us” (Trump’s Jan 6th conspiracy and coup attempt). Trump has already revealed his tyranny as the worst President in history.
Democrats do not control the media. Rupert Murdoch’s conservative media empire controls a large swath of US media – Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, Barron’s, Breitbart, OANN, RealClearPolitics, and many others. Newsmax is also a far right and rapidly growing media company built in Florida on bilking seniors. The other major media outlets are in the center, and even the Republican’s favorite target, National Public Radio, goes so far to present both sides equally that they typically give the conservatives more time than the liberals. Twitter built a good business based on blocking bots and propaganda, and now advertisers are running away because of Musk’s open policy of censoring the left while letting blatant Q-Anon theories through.
I don’t know what you expect Amazon to do for your conservative business. They sell Christian and Conservative books, Nazi paraphernalia, even Joe Gilbertson’s free market drivel book. If you expect them to do your advertising or promote your business – hey, get to a few million bucks in revenue and then call them – until then, shut the fuck up. They have their own business model and have no responsibility to respect your idea of “fair and balanced”. Freedom of speech means the government doesn’t interfere with speech – it doesn’t mean that other companies have to support your (idiotic) point of view.
Regarding your “facts” about voter fraud – DeSantis created a minor fraud by having Florida election offices tell certain convicts that they could vote, and then prosecuting them when they did. The first test case got thrown (and laughed) out of court. As for “ballot harvesting”, ONE WOMAN said it was happening for ten years, and DeSantis made a big deal out of it for about 10 minutes, and now the evidence is nowhere to be seen. All those “tons of examples” are just scary stories told by Republicans who are pissed that they lose, and have no evidence or basis in fact. EVERY ONE of the fraud “examples” is based on misunderstanding and rumors and NOT A SINGLE EXAMPLE has been backed up by any evidence.
The Twitter controversy is exactly the same – the FBI warned about Russian election interference, Twitter blocked it for about 5 days and then decided it could be released. There was no coordinated effort to affect elections. Twitter was (at the time) a business whose reputation and advertisement revenues depended on a certain level of verification of the veracity of content. Gilbertson is bound and determined to turn that into a scandal, but “yawn… big nothingburger”… Now, apparently, Musk seems intent on driving the value of Twitter down, so that he can lose half his fortune and prove some sort of point. Or something like that…
And Republican conspiracy theorists are still hanging on to Hunter Biden’s laptop… Just like Benghazi and Hillary’s emails, you’ll be beating that dead horse for years to come. Even Larry is calling Democrats scared to death of that “scandal”. Completely wrong. Republicans have cried wolf so many times that nobody will believe them, and there’s been no evidence to suggest that Biden (father or son) has done anything wrong, and Guiliani’s credibility as Trump’s lawyer is so far down the tubes that nobody seriously believes ANYTHING that passes through his greasy fingers. Democrats could care less, as there is no evidence, and Republicans will waste a lot of time and money and be held accountable for it.
Your summary is correct, except that you have taken up Trump’s habit of projecting his faults onto others:
– Trump fascist-level bashing of the media, minorities, immigrants… plus his Nuremburg-style rallies – check.
– Questionable/crooked elections – Trump certainly got Russian help in his first election, and tried to subvert the 2020 election – check.
– Co-opting government resources – making money off of the Secret Service at Trump businesses, his campaign announcements from the Rose Garden, his unmarked military that he sent to attack peaceful protesters, trying to blackmail a foreign government to create dirt on his opponent, a conspiracy to steal the election run right out of the White House – check.
You are correct that Republicans are paralyzed with fear to speak out against Trump. He is vicious when anyone goes against him. He doesn’t control enough votes to actually win elections (as seen in the last round of voting), but he can certainly derail candidates during the Party primaries. As for “traditionally conservative” news outlets saying less-than-flattering things about Trump, there are two things going on – first, they can’t come out and completely admit that they were wrong, so they’re tempering their message, and secondly, they have seen the damage done by Trump and it will cost them a lot of money and influence when Trump is completely discredited. Trump showed in the last election that his candidates can’t win, and when the money goes away so does his sway over the Republicans. There are certainly Trump-cult members who will never stop believing that Trump was a great President, but most are slowly starting to realize that they’ve been sold a bill of goods, and Trump was a monster in every sense of the word.
The only person who wants to circumvent the Constitution is Trump. 100% for his own benefit. Gilbertson thinks that electing Republicans is the only way to fix a broken system. I would argue that the system is not broken, but an awful lot of damage has been done by Republicans. Republicans have campaigned in the last three elections with ZERO campaign platforms, and have proven over the last 50 years that the country does better when Democrats are in charge. Their silence in spite of Trump’s many transgressions will lead to the downfall of the Party.
Gilbertson and his cohorts at PBP continue to make excuses for Trump’s record and behavior. Gilbertson’s new little joke “you’re a Democrat, so you’re dismissed” is just another sign of the contempt that Republicans have for the rest of the country. Yet another trait copied from their cult leader Trump.
That was nicely put. Good summary of the past six year of Trump and his sad enablers including this band of merry Trumplicants on pbp. Joe can’t see insurrectionists, The Big Lie, Ukraine-gate, paper-gate or any of it. Larry says Turnip’s in the rearview and then writes another piece about him…
What you leave out is that the really sad part about this is the Democrats really need Republicans. We need balance. Republicans used to have some good ideas. They have let their party be taken over by Trumplicants who enable a number of fringe groups, like white supremacist, extremists, QAnon freaks, and how they depend upon them and their votes. They shun any Republican that pushes back on Trump, like Romney, Cheney, Kizinger, and so many more. This is not the way they should add inclusiveness in order to attract more people to the party. That is the real crying shame in all of us. Republicans are literally committing suicide as they continue down the path of Trumpism.
That’s why I was advocating Liz Cheney for the Speaker in a previous column. She’s a conservative, but wouldn’t tolerate McCarthy-type crap about investigating Hunter Biden or going after every Democrat that they don’t like. She would relegate the really crazy ones to minor committees. Between a Dem Majority and 20 or so Republicans acting on a bipartisan basis (and actually negotiating the final language of bills) there could be some good legislation.
The alternative is for the Republican Party to just die a slow death and a new Conservative Republican of America Party headed by Cheney and the other non-Trumpers start gaining traction. It wouldn’t take long to replace the whole Republican Party.
You know Liz Cheney is gone, right? Defeated by a Trump-backed candidate.
Twas just an example of a Republican trashed because of her views about Trump. You have lost many a great politician and patriot in similar manners. Without the Cheney’s, Romneys, Collins, etc. of the world, how do you grow? How do you expand if you keep booting folks?
And you do know that Trump is not President and never will be, right?
Liz Cheney is/was a Senator. I was advocating that she be Speaker of the House. There is no requirement that she hold any office or be a member of the House.
Just because she was primaried (something Trump is still able to do) does not mean that she might not find support in the House. It would only take a handful of Republican House members if the Democrats wanted to help install her. She has shown that she can work with Democrats in a bipartisan manner, and that she’s not in Trump’s thrall.
The alternative, if Republicans can’t make up their minds, is that Dems nominate a Dem who gets elected because Republicans are split across a couple of candidates.
Democrats are bought and paid for by the CCP. Everyone including their supporters should be in prison for what they are doing to the children of this country alone. Sicko hair sniffing freak Biden first.
You are excused as yet another delusional democrat. You have bought in and are content to repeat the propaganda without actually bothering to think or search the evidence.
The fact is that Trump was an excellent president even in the face of multiple cynical impeachment attempts based on fake information.
And for some reason you believe that selling “Christian and Conservative books” makes up for the suppression of free speech by people who actually have an opinion. To me that says naive.
Joe, you said that “Amazon has one of the largest, most effective and most inexpensive email platforms in the country that sends multiple billion emails per month? And yes, no conservatives allowed. I know this firsthand.”
Amazon sells shit for other people, including you. I’ve never received an email from Amazon that wasn’t “your product is shipping” or “your product has arrived”… They obviously haven’t turned down your penny-ante book… They sell crap for Nazis. They sell religious products. They sell fucking Trump memorabilia. You can buy Q-anon shirts. They support all manner of crazy or racist right-wing conservative businesses. What else do you expect? It sounds to me like you’re asking them to do something that isn’t in their business model. Which means that YOU are the problem, not them.
You continue to accuse me (and many of your readers) of not bothering to search for evidence of election fraud. I have yet to hear of any evidence that hasn’t been throughly debunked. YOU are the one saying there is lots of evidence – well, you have your soapbox here, tell us why it is you believe there was fraud. You believe it so strongly, is it because you’ve actually seen or read about some evidence that you believe to be true, or is it that you’ve read about people who’ve heard of other people who heard about yet more people who have heard about evidence? This is your opportunity to tell the world, and if you don’t do it now we’ll assume it’s because YOU CAN’T.
And again, you pull up the tired “you are excused” bit, even though it makes you sound pretty stupid.
I don’t gaf what Trump does as long as he’s against all the sick pesos trans freaks and woke agenda so suck on that ahole
WATCH ””NEWSMAX”’ AT LEAST THEY TELL THE TRUTH. FORGET ”’CNN” MSNBC ABC ETC ALL ON THE DEMOCRAT PAYROLL. I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD. SHOULD WORK TOGETHER, DEMOCRATS AND GOP, BUT THERE IS ONLY HATE BECAUSE DEMOCRATS ARE ALL BOUT POWER, NO LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY OR FLAG. HATE CHRISTIANS.
LOVE CHINA AND IRAN AND HATE THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND WHITE PEOPLE.
We’ll see. IMO, and take it with a HUGE grain of salt, on PMP their are three types: Joe the Trumplicant is in hook, line, and sinker. I am not sure these folks can be redeemed. Joe’s entire website depends on Trumpism for example, it’s in his revenue stream. And Larry who is an enabler boldly stating he pushes back on personality but LOVES the policies so therefor he will go along to git along as LBJ would say: an enabler. Larry can be redeemed if he just cuts the cord, gets up on his two hind legs, and screams: that’s enough, I’m not gonna take it anymore — Liz is right, the guy is a total bum. And then there’s the third type, the lost boys, who just bay at the moon with vitriol for one and for all. Haters all, they even hate RINOs and spend their time here castigating others while offering no information of any value whatsoever.
Larry is in a very small minority.
But unless the enabling Larry’s of this world retake their party, they will lose it to the Joe’s of this world and it will all be Trumpism if it isn’t too later already. The party will continue to show favor and enable splinter groups like white supremacists, qanon’s, and other unsavory characters. And sure, we have our issues across the aisle, but let’s face it —- Joe is still left of center, maybe a bit more for the AOC’s of this world, but still left of center. And we have our splinters like BLM, but not much more. And before folks say it, the Democratic party does not enable antifa —- they are as lone a wolf as those creating violence on the right (except for 1/6 which has Trumpism written all over it, but I would contend the insurrectionist part is lone wolf-ish like antifa. But Trumplicants fully own the riot).
As DeSantis ascends, it will be interesting to see him navigate these demographics while simultaneously enticing Independents. Will he cut bait or will he try to retain all Trumplicants, including those who used to be an anathema to the party while attempting to bring Independents on board as well. That’s looking like a hard row to hoe. We too will have that issue in 2024 as Progressives realize they did not get what they want, what they expected, from the last 4 years of Biden.
My two cents is the Republican party is at a tipping point whether they will return to center or keep veering to the right; right off the cliff. I do wish them luck because we need their balance, their counterpoints, their facts. The nation needs them. But we don’t need a good number of the folks they associate with and enable and I contend the inclusion of these folks will be the continued death of the party. They just can’t compete in 2024 like this. For example, you can’t draw the black vote while sitting at the dinner table with racists and supremacists. All you get is Walkers.
Just saying. Just IMO.
Until Reagan came along, there used to be liberal Republicans… even Nixon leaned heavily toward environmentalism. Republicans (especially since Newt Gingrich) have been using loyalty tests and driving away anyone who wasn’t strictly far-right conservative. It will continue as the Republican Party eats its own, until we can drown what’s left in Grover Norquist’s bathtub.
Environmentalism wasn’t just a liberal issue until liberals started suggesting massive and ridiculous subsidies for solutions to problems they don’t know how to solve. And of course, for engaging in wealth distribution in the guise of environmental programs.
It was Reagan who decided that putting solar panels on the White House was a bad idea. Hmmm, wouldn’t want to promote a new technology that helps clean up our air and water, gives us free energy, and creates jobs. And it’s Republicans who are removing clean water and air regulations from the energy business. It hasn’t resulted in lower prices, but the fossil-fuel companies are making record profits. And if you look at the evidence, wealth has been redistributed from the middle class to the wealthy, especially during Trump’s term. These are the consequences of Republican policies since Reagan.
Reagan, GW Bush, and Trump are all your heroes, but their policies have done the most damage to the US middle class, and by extension, the whole country. The order listed are 3rd, 2nd, and 1st worst Presidents in the history of the country.
And we’re still waiting for your evidence of all the voter fraud from Trump’s election (or any other election cycle you’d care to detail). You keep citing “the evidence” as if it’s available for everyone to see, but… it ain’t there. You can start with Trump’s 60 lawsuits and show us anything that hasn’t been debunked. The only evidence I’ve seen here in PBP was the thing about someone sending military votes through an Italian radio station transceiver (or something like that), which made no sense whatsoever. You have this forum, it belongs to you – write a column or two explaining all this voter fraud that’s been alleged. Give us 20 examples, a few thousand words… Hell, find me 100 votes in the whole country that got changed. I predict that it will be ripped to shreds within two hours of posting it…
For Joe the believer and Joe the nonbeliever, I think I have a helpful guide to help choose the next Trumplicant to loose the Presidential 2024 election. Between Turnip and Desantimonious, here’s some defining characteristics, accomplishments, and experience.
Enjoy and sorry if the table is not clean, blame Joe’s cheap site.
Education History/JD BA in something
Schools Harvard/Yale Wharton Finance and Economics (Not Wharton MBA)
Military Service Seal Team 1 Jag Daddy’s doctor’s deferment
Rank Lieutenant Captain Bonespurs
Deployment Iraq Club 57
Service Medals Bronze Star Medal, Swizzle sticks and matchbooks
Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal,
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal,
the Iraq Campaign Medal.
Public Service experience 8 years 4 years
Other experience Teacher Fraud, Tax Cheat, Destroyed AC NJ
Level US Congress, FL Governor twice impeached President
Favorability Beloved by Floridians Most of the country dislikes him
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Democrats are bought and paid for by the CCP. Everyone including their supporters should be in prison for what they are doing to the children of this country alone. Sicko hair sniffing freak Biden first.
Wow, they sure have you brainwashed! The Democrats are crooked as all get out, and hate President Trump because he exposes their corruption. The largest threat to the American people and the world is the Democrat Party. Anyone who believes Joe won, is either cognitively deficient or simply doesn’t care, as they too belong to Lucifer.
YES TRUMP WON. OF COURSE THE CORRUPT DEMOCRATIC PARTY DENIES IT ALL BUT THEN DEMOCRATS WOULD NEVER WIN WITHOUT CHEATING. TRUMP KNEW HOW CORRUPT THE SWAMP IS. THEY HATED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS NOT A POLITICIAN AND THEY COULD NOT BY HIM. HE STOOD APART FROM ALL THESE WEASELS WHO STEAL AND LIE , BUT NEVER DO A THING FOR OUR COUNTRY.
JUST LOOK HOW BIDEN OBAMAS PUPPET DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY IN 2 YEARS. 5 MILLION MORE ILLEGALS, NO BORDER, WOKE CRAP. ECONOMY GONE, SPENDING OUT OF CONTROL WE ARE BROKE, BUT BIDEN KEEPS ON SPENDING, ON ILLEGALS, HIS CRONIES ETC. NOTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY OR THE CITIZENS. BY THE END OF HIS TERM, THERE WILL BE NO COUNTRY LEFT.
THEN WE NEED TRUMP TO FIX IT ALL.
ALL YOU TRUMP HATERS KEEP VOTING FOR THE TRAITORS OF OUR NATION. FOR COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM AND MARXIST INSANITY.
MAYBE YOU WILL LEARN HISTORY THE HARD WAY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU JUST PARROT THE DEMOCRATS LIES. DID YOU VOTE FOR THE ”GREEN NEW DEAL”’???
I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS THOUGHT AMERICANS ARE THIS BRAIN DEAD.GOOD THING ALL THESE WORLD WAR TWO VETS ARE NOT ALIVE TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEIR BELOVED COUNTRY. JUST THINK THE DEMOCRATS EVEN MAKE OUR MILITARY WOKE, WHAT A ABONIMASHEN. WHERE ARE THE REAL AMERICANS, PLEASE STAND UP,IF YOU LOVE YOUR GREAT COUNTRY.
Even if he is correct; DONALD TRUMP
AND HIS CRONIES ARE NOT THE
PEOPLE TO TRUST TO FIX ANYTHING
THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE
I DON’T THINK IT’S BROKE TO BEGIN
WHAT NEEDS TO STOP IS THE ABILITY
OF PRESIDENTS TO DANCE AROUND
AND MANIPULATE CONSTITUTIONAL
LAW TO ALIGN WITH THEIR