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Revealed: Child Death Attributed to Measles Actually Caused by Medical Error

Revealed: Child Death Attributed to Measles Actually Caused by Medical Error

Last month, mainstream media across the country and abroad ran an intense scaremongering campaign by reporting the first death from measles in a decade in America. People were reminded over and over that they needed to vaccinate their children to stay protected against measles and the unvaccinated child’s death in Texas was used as a reason to sell people the measles (MMR) shots. But now the truth has surfaced and the pharma-aligned media is all quiet. It turns out that the child did not die of measles but of medical negligence at the hospital where she was being treated.

On Wednesday (March 19), the Children’s Health Defense (CHD) published the result of their investigation into the alleged measles death of a child in Lubbock, Texas, in late February. The 6-year-old girl died on February 26 at the Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock where she had been taken by her parents for treatment. The girl’s death was declared as a measles death by the hospital. The Health Department of the State of Texas posted the same almost immediately on its website without any investigation to verify the claim. The mainstream media followed suit and blamed it all on unvaccinated people.

But the CHD, like many skeptics of the official narrative, wouldn’t take the officials and media at their word. They launched a probe into the matter and obtained and reviewed all the medical records of the case. Their conclusion revealed the shocking truth that the child did not die of measles but “medical error” as concluded by Dr. Pierre Kory, a doctor with extensive experience in pulmonary and critical care medicine, who analyzed the records. The analysis of the medical records showed that the girl died of secondary bacterial pneumonia that had “little to do with measles,” as reported by the CHD.

Instead, it surfaced that the girl was administered the wrong antibiotic and was rushed to the emergency treatment despite her measles rash already in retreat. As reported in the CHD post:

She was not administered the correct antibiotic for treating her secondary bacterial pneumonia until roughly two and a half days later. By that time, she had declined so severely that doctors had already placed her on a mechanical ventilator, Kory said.

And if that wasn’t horrific enough, by the time the hospital realized its error and administered the correct antibiotic, nine hours had passed and the child’s condition had declined dangerously with a sharp drop in her blood pressure. In less than 24 hours, she died.

This revelation about the “medical error” comes to the horror of all those who look to the medical system as a life saver. But unlike the other children of the grieving Texan couple, who were treated effectively with the holistic approach of Dr. Ben Edwards, the girl they took to the mainstream medical system resulted in her tragic death by medical malpractice.

Equally if not more eye-opening, is the deafening silence of the health agencies and mainstream media following these alarming revelations from the CHD investigation of the Lubbock child’s death. Neither Trump’s Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. nor the Texas Health Department has issued any statement addressing the CHD investigation. The mainstream conservative news sources like Fox News and others are also tight-lipped over it, while only a handful of independent commentators have either discussed the story in their podcasts or commented on the CHD story on social media. Many informed readers, however, have shared the story or commented on it on their social media pages.

Dr. Pierre Kory was interviewed by Jimmy Dore on his show where the two discussed the case of the girl’s death. Dr. Kory also shared how he has been stripped of his board certifications because he wouldn’t play along the pharma-favoring policies of the system. He remains a practicing doctor and works as an independent private practitioner.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/O5x4quL5VGk

When the CHD story came out, Dr. Ben Edwards drew attention to the stats from a 2018 Johns Hopkins study showing that medical errors are the third leading cause of death in America – heart disease and cancer being the leading two causes. These stats in light of stories like the child in Lubbock show the dark side of the medical system, which frequently gets deadly.

https://twitter.com/Dr_BenEdwardsMD/status/1902174044138447124/photo/1

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  1. E. Motta

    The hospitals intentionally pulled this during the COVID scamdemic. They refused proper treatment for pneumonia, asthma etc if patient or family refused standard covid treatment. We need a class action suit!

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    • frank danger

      E Motta from Montana. Been to the train station yet?

      You gotta prove it before you sue it. I have to imagine that if someone came in potentially with covid and refused standard treatment, I would have taken them to the train station.

      In the early days, when much was unknown, people dropping like flies, you really gotta a problem with maximum safety precautions? Like not doing an autopsy on a suspected covid death? Or demanding quarantine, a standard covid treatment even today? They were protecting us as well as themselves.

      If you think the covid was a scam: I got a million stories from the dead to tell you.

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      • WeeEEE The People

        You have been to the train station? If ever, I won’t be surprised to learn that you went there daily to learn how to spell your name. Or maybe your teacher took you there to throw you on the rails in case you couldn’t spell it right after a 100 times.
        Standard treatment for covid? There is none. And same for measles or others so-called infectious diseases.

        The people dropping like flies myth is old and unproven. Try something better. What’s known today? That there is no cure for measles and the vaccines are useless and dangerous.

        COVID was and is a scam. Sure, liberals are good at creating stories from the dead – their primary vote bank. Let’s start hearing those million stories. What’s the first one?

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        • frank danger

          WTP: this rant is pure gibberish and does not make sense.

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          • WeeEEE The People

            That is what all your rants are – mere nonsense. Why don’t you try coming up with something that makes sense?

          • frank danger

            Yes another mirror job by WTP who can’t get it up to make a cogent, compelling, argument but just blathers back what I said.

            “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness”.

            Just saying……
            that I spell my name: danger. And this guy can’t even stand alone, he must have his “weeeee” and his peeples.

          • WeeEEE The People

            DANG-er’s self-embarrassing fits of rant littering the place are coming to an end. You see this when his comments get the size of his brain capacity – all the words he can process. A sign he is about to give up because littering the place with longer rants didn’t work. Lols.

            Keep learning to spell your name DANG-er. Next stages are a little tougher. Keep the mirror handy 🙂

        • frank danger

          “Oh that’s a nice little confession.” Yes, I confess to the truth, oh the horror of it all. Try it some time. Have the stones to admit your mistakes.

          NO, the Pfizer vaccine was not built on Federal Funds. The underlying mRNA technology was, and Pfizer pays for it via the license. There were SOME federal funds that built the underlying technology for the covid vaccine, the mRNA technology. But as I said, and you conveniently left off since the truth hurts your spin, was mRNA was invented by a Hungarian, worked on by experts across the globe for over 30 years with funding primarily from the USA government but also many foreign governments as well.

          And Pfizer paid for licensing the technology; therefore, they paid the USA to develop it and paid the US government back for the money the US government invested as well.

          “I am glad that Trump killed any future funding” because you don’t want medicines like the measles vaccine and the covid vaccine for our children in the future? You say the covid vaccine is useless? You say the covid vaccine is dangerous? But you have shown no proof? How about the measles vaccine? Same? Useless? Dangerous? TB? Flu? Pneumonia? Shingles? Wow, ain’t you just Mr. Natural…..

          And your “tu quoque” logical fallacies are well practiced by third graders everywhere but don’t count for much here. I’m rubber, you’re glue is a stupid argument that goes nowhere. It’s the simplest of stupid logical fallacies to spot. Third grade level error.

          “Useless littering of the place with copy-paste text from quick searches” WTP considers bad and favors the ad hominem tu quoque method of fact-less, feckless debate laced with denial and conspiracy theories. He loves to push, “well, if you can’t prove my lie, it must be true.”

          “What Pfizer says is irrelevant, as it lies like you. So ignored” is the best argument he can come up with. Weak tea.
          ‘“You are right, it is Biontech, not Biotech as I wrote, my bad, sorry.” LOLS. Ignorant AF is how you spell your name? I thought so!” At least I am man enough to fess up to errors and mistakes.

          “The vaccine sheeple meanwhile owe it to Trump to approve fast-tracking of these or else there would be no Covid shots still, at least in America. So yeah, keep applauding Trump” for what, coming in at third place? Wow, you do love the man above the truth, wow. Talk about denial.

          “the vaccine saved no lives but has taken many.” Define many? Prove this or STFU. BUSTED for being a liar.
          “The pseudoscientific claims of vaccine immunity are lacking in evidence” Actually, for measles this is scientifically proven across the globe. For covid, they do not claim immunity. If you misread the initial claims, surely you are not so stupid as to bring yourself up to date with the current claims, rationales, explanations, and support for what is said now? Or are you just stuck in 2020?

          “Now if you have real solid scientific evidence, why don’t you give it another shot?” As soon as you answer the questions.

          “The pathetic failure of the vaccines mirrors…..” I say mirrors, he says mirrors…. I say NAZI, he says NAZI. No creativity at all. And then he calls me an idiot because he can’t do better.

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          • WeeEEE The People

            It’s good to see you confess that you are ignorant and lied. That is how you do it DANG-er.
            Yes the mRNA vaccines including Pfizer were developed using US federal funds and funds from other governments as the technology is central to them and Trump’s fast-tracking them was vital to their availability or else they would have to go through 3 to ten years of trials before getting approval. So you owe it to US governments and particularly Trump.

            Oh yeah those shots and more you named are useless and dangerous. Well unlike you Mr. Artificial (as in fake), yeah I’m natural treatment guy. Pharma has been co-opting nature for centuries, only giving us a worse thing that makes people sick, oftentimes more than its benefit.

            Haha, your first-grader rationale itself is a fallacy to begin with. To get to third-grade will be a big leap for you. So when are you starting the big journey?

            Well by now you have shown that you lack any intelligence and your only means of getting your name out here is via littering – denial, false claims, repetitive lies, and other BS. That’s far below weak tea – it’s hot air at best. 🙂

            Oh you are stupid enough to give away your ignorance and still try to claim credibility. Not compatible. Interestingly this contradiction in your character – at least whatever is visible here – shows clearly when it comes to Trump and vaccines. You love that he did it and hate it that he gets the credit. Hence the ambivalent “life saving vaccine” worship right against “Trump is destroying everything.” Quite a joke!

            The dictionary has defined “many” centuries ago. Do first-graders like you learn how to use a dictionary at the school for imbecility where you go get your lessons? If not, maybe you can get some extra credit for suggesting they start using it. You can thank me later for the suggestion 🙂

            Scientifically proven? Because saying so makes it so? Infantile attempt at claiming truth. In science we need evidence. You have provided none.

            You mean COVID vaccine offers no immunity against the disease? Nice little confession again. Time Magazine must have lied when it ran the story “Here’s How Long COVID-19 Vaccine Immunity Really Lasts” in 2023. Oopsie, you gonna flip now DANG-er aren’t you? Lols

            Thanks for admitting you don’t have any scientific evidence to back up your false claims. Not unexpected.

            Oh yeah that’s quite an interesting game to keep you entertained in front of the mirror. Keep saying NAZI DANG-er is an idiot and ignorant twit. Now repeated 100 times. Let me know when you need a new word to throw into the game 

          • frank danger

            You are just repeating yourself and making all sorts of fake claims about what I said or meant.

            We get it. You don’t believe in covid or measles as dangerous but believe medicine is. You have no facts to support that, but you believe it. You don’t believe any vaccines have any value and are often dangerous.

            You believe Trump’s OWS expedited development, I agreed, but noted he got third place and didn’t even fund development of the pfizer vaccine. His PREDESSESORS did fund the underlying mRNA technology, the funding of which Trump just cancelled and you are overjoyed about that.

            You have my statements of fact supported by copious experts and studies. Covid killed millions. Measles has killed millions. Vaccines work.. Vaccines are one of the safest product classes on the face of the Earth and a marvel of modern medicine. Tis proven.

          • WeeEEE The People

            That’s true you are repeating yourself and most/all of what you have been saying here are lies. I’ll take that as your confession.

            Yeah so-called covid and measles are rarely fatal and they have no medicine for it. Vaccines are not medicine except in the world of pseudo-scientific corporations and the sheeple that follow them. Yes at least you got that right. Vaccines are useless and dangerous.

            Your belief goes against your stated belief. You dismissed the Russian and Chinese vaccines as worthless or not helpful. But you accept the mRNA vaccines as worthy. So that would make Trump the first one to actually provide real worthy vaccines (your view). But if you want to credit Putin with it, I’m fine with it. In either case it wasn’t a globalist scumbag like Biden. At the same time, it was all a big fraud and I don’t give any credit to any of the leaders for churning out a useless and dangerous product, particularly the mRNA shots.

            Your statements are only as good as the lies backing them up – millions dead and vaccines working and saving lives. Nothing more than well-funded propaganda. It’s proven and your repetition only validates my point.

            Wanna try again?

          • frank danger

            respond: “That’s true you are repeating yourself and most/all of what you have been saying here are lies. I’ll take that as your confession.” Delusion will be your epitaph as you employ the logical fallacy of “tu quoque” fallacy, also known as “mirroring” or “look who’s talking” or “appeal to hypocrisy,” which occurs when someone attempts to discredit an argument or accusation by pointing out that the accuser is doing the same. Essentially repeating their target as in a mirror, the weak debater debases themselves in the vain attempt to deflect an argument back on the originator.
            You lie and spread misinformation contradicting hundreds of analytical studies that say the opposite of your delusional claims that “covid and measles are rarely fatal and they have no medicine for it. Vaccines are not medicine except in the world of pseudo-scientific corporations and the sheeple that follow them. Yes at least you got that right. Vaccines are useless and dangerous.” PBP publishes this trash from this known and consistent spreader of such trash.
            Dismissed Chinese and Russian vaccines as useless? Think that’s a lie. Probably said they were not as good, but….useless? They were introduced before Trump’s OWS delivered. And Pfizer, which received no funding from Trump for vaccine development, who did license and pay for mRNA development well before Trump delivered the first covid vaccine to the USA, not OWS.
            The first covid vaccinee in America was more German than US or OWS or Trump. Trump did not fund mRNA development, that was done in the 30 years previous to Trump. Trump killed mRNA research recently, he is not a supporter of miracle medicines.

          • WeeEEE The People

            You have mastered the art of repetitive lying – the “regurgitative fallacy.” You likely won’t have an epitaph cz that shows some kind of belongingness and living in some memory. So I am not sure what dump will carry your body and where it will be disposed off – but no clean place for sure. Your best memories (what else to call them) will be in these comments where you will be remembered as prince of regurgitation (POG). 🙂

            Sure you’d like to litter the place with another dose of the fake corporate-serving bought-and-paid-for pseudoscience – measles, covid, vaccines, blah blah blah. Useless – as useless as your existence and broken radio personality. That still remains discredited and debunked.

            From worthless to not as good? Lols. Well that will remain your lie after all since the one you called good is no good. If they are worse, you are even worse off there. And their introduction earlier than American intro of vaccines means their leadership is better than American – which actually seems to be the case – in all American political administrations. Just like they declared the pandemic restrictions over and unnecessary before sleepy diapered Biden did – the last country in the First World to lift those restrictions.

            Pfizer vaccines, developed and distributed out of US funding over the years including Trump years, are useless and dangerous and remain Trump’s big stain. Their advocates owe it to Trump. So there’s no way out for you DANG-er. Except if you go back to learning how to spell your name.

            Your ignorance of license versus board certification, the very name of Biontech, the ignorance of mRNA vaccine development history, and Pfizer’s lies all deserve to go on the dump truck that will carry your useless self to its final destination – whatever it be.

            Wanna give it another try to correct yourself? Maybe it will be a miracle medicine to correct yourself.

        • frank danger

          You NOW claim “– US funded mRNA technology” as proof that Trump’s OWS funded mRNA technology. Do you really need me to point out the error in your logic in those two statements, the first talking US, the second Trump’s OWS. BUSTED.

          You say “the fast-tracking of the trial phases makes Trump the unprecedented developer of the COVIDS vaccines” to argue that Trump funded Pfizer2

          You repeat: “Pfizer-BioNTech would not have been able to develop an mRNA covid-19 vaccine without the licensed technologies emerging from research funded by US taxpayers” but apparently miss the key word —– “licensed” which means Pfizer PAID for the development at a rate which I hope had some profit for the USofA. Follow the money, you can do it if you try.

          You mirror: ““During the pandemic, the public investment in the mRNA covid-19 vaccine products via Operation Warp Speed was far more extensive than for any previous public product development. For example, the NIH invested $220m in research for an Ebola vaccine from 2004 to 2013 and about $1.1bn in 2015 for Ebola countermeasures via BARDA, the Department of Defense, and the NIH. From 2014 to 2021, the NIH invested $369m toward a tuberculosis vaccine and $439m toward a malaria vaccine. Total public funding previously estimated for other key pharmaceuticals included $62m for buprenorphine, $60.9m for sofosbuvir, $13.8m for pregabalin, and $85m for paclitaxel.” Wow, thanks, glad you liked my passage. However, did you seen the word mRNA? I printed the OWS funding into covid vaccine and the companies funded. Did you miss that? The list does not include Pfizer. BUSTED.

          You apparently did not read your own report which states: “ no mRNA patents were shared.” There’s footnotes too!!

          I can find no proof that mRNA technology research was funded by OWS. You have spewed a lot but showed no proof that OWS funded mRNA technology development beyond it’s use for certain manufacturers, not Pfizer, in their vaccine developments. OWS did not fund Pfizer for the covid vaccine or Pfizer mRNA technology development. Pfizer pays for mRNA development via it’s license agreement Pfizer pays to use. You have not proved that Trump’s OWS funded mRNA development and to push back, Trump has killed all funding for future mRNA research which will kill many upcoming vaccines looking to leverage it. The Guardian writes: “Trump administration at ‘war’ with mRNA technology: scientists alarmed vaccine skeptics could kill research.” And he did. It’s dead. The miracle is dead. Trump killed it. You killed it. And many will die early on your watch.
          You continue to blather: “Oh Pfizer is a certified liar, even a bigger one than you.”

          Your proof: “, yeah there is no proof.” Wow… sarcasm?

          Zantac suit settled without liability or guilt.

          Same with claim on subsidiary, a claim which was actually caused by the subsidiary BEFORE Pfizer bought them. Did you even read your own citation?

          The third one was a fourth time for shady promotions. But where’s the lie? Specify please. On this one Pfizer is indeed guilty admitting: “We regret certain actions taken in the past, but are proud of the action we’ve taken to strengthen our internal controls and pioneer new procedures so that we not only comply with state and federal laws, but also meet the high standards that patients, physicians and the public expect from a leading worldwide company dedicated to healing and better health.” No felony, like Trump, no conviction, like Trump. So, if this payment proves a lie, then Trump the liar for Trump University, Trump Foundation, Trump Business felonies, all 34 of them. Trump personal felonies, all 34 of them. Do you think Trump lied to Melanoma the illegal alien when he was spanking sexing Stormy? Did he lie to Melanoma about sexually abusing all those women? Peeking at the teenage beauty contestants in the dressing room (that’s got to be the most expensive peeping Tom act in the world), or when he told you the ill-fated Trump steaks, water, and wines were the bestest in the world?

          And then, purposefully, to get a rise, you cross the line of decency when you lie big time to demean brave soldiers by saying: “Please spare me the fabrications of your made-up kin in this or that Nazi camp. If there were any indeed, they must have been part of the Nazi squad, and now likely serving key posts in the Azov Battalion in Ukraine. America has a Nazi problem and you make a case for it.” Wow, you just dissed me, my family, and discredited these brave soldiers on their service and sacrifice. You once again, deployed your favorite logical fallacy, mirroring back that I, and now my family, are NAZIs. May this lie of kindness come back to you, ten-fold.
          We are done. You are banned. You deal from the bottom of the deck of decency and decorum. You are too weak to argue like a gentleman. Like a man.

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          • WeeEEE The People

            Nice self-busting you do. None of the claims clashes or is inconsistent with the other. So good job busting yourself DANG-er, lols.

            The money has been followed in detail in the paper from which I posted the relevant excerpt. You need to go back to school to learn how to read. Planning for that anytime soon?

            Actually I’ll unserscore the need for you to lear how to read even more and again. In “During the pandemic, the public investment in the mRNA covid-19 vaccine products via Operation Warp Speed was far more extensive than for any previous public product development.” See mRNA there at all? BUSTED! Lols

            Patent sharing does not mean not funding. Grants are not issued on the condition of patent-sharing. DANG-er’s ignorance is the ultimately busting target here.

            Yeah you have not provided any proof of anything you say. Sarcasm is indeed enjoying its ride on your ignorance.

            Speaking of ignorance, you are admitting half of yours in admitting Pfizer’s lies and then denying that it did. Useless, just like your Pfizer’s vaccine. On top of it, fallacious reasoning to compare it to Trump’s cases which are under appeal – means he has not admitted to wrongdoing while the settlements of Pfizer are proof of their wrongdoing. BUSTED!

            For your lies about Trump, nice attempt at distracting from your many busted lies and display of stupidity. Too late DANG-er.

            What soldiers? What family? What service? You have not provided any evidence of anything. And who cares anyways about you or your stupid family or other made-up lies? Stop pretending to be important. As they say, don’t even try.

            You call Trump’s wife names and you call yourself a man. Lols. I say go put yourself in the dump where you and your never-existing manhood belong. It’s gonna be there anyways. And the best part – nobody will miss any of it.

            Wanna give it another shot? Be my guest DANG-er! I’m waiting.

  2. frank danger

    Once again, Ernest has proven how unskilled, untrained, and unprofessional he is as a journalist, researcher and, especially as a truth seeker. This story is advocating measle vaccine avoidance based on lies and should be pulled down. It never should have passed the editor.

    His article “Revealed: Child Death Attributed to Measles Actually Caused by Medical Error” should be titled Revealed: Child Death Attributed to Measles Actually Caused by Medical Error says discredited doctor who earns his living on lies. The Dumpster makes his living spreading manure like this.

    The coroner’s report lists the cause of death, not some schlock ex-doctor from a discredited anti-vax propaganda 5o1c. The Dumpster says this is not true, it twas not measles that killed the kid. She had measles for sure, it caused pneumonia for sure, and The Dumpster claims twas the hospital giving the wrong antibiotics, not the pneumonia caused by measles that killed her.

    Perhaps there is something to The Dumpster’s claim as made by a discredited anti-vaxer doctor supported by two in his group who chimed in, “yup, looks OK by me.” He offered no evidence, no support outside his own club, and the coroner, hospital, medical community has not reviewed this data for comment. Good enough for The Dumpster and Joe, though….

    His source: Children’s Health Defense is a 501c anti-vaxing group that was chaired by Kenndy and is a main source of vaccine misinformation. They also hate fluoridated water. They have many legal cases, all lost or pending, none won. Dr. Pierre Kory, whose 3 medical accreditations were cancelled in 2023 over his claim of success with ivermectin. His expertise is noted in ultrasound, not covid or measles. He was a healer, not a coroner or forensics expert. Kory got his medical degree at St. George’s University in Grenada, West Indies.

    The reason he is no longer a doctor: “spreading false or inaccurate medical information.”

    This is not Kory’s first lie. From WIKI: “ in December 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication ivermectin was a “wonder drug” with “miraculous effectiveness” against COVID-19.”

    He completed his medical education at St. George’s University in Grenada, West Indies. In 2021, the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted his paper. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of people treated for COVID-19 with the FLCCC’s “MATH+” protocol, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment. In 2022, he falsely claimed that vaccines can disrupt pregnancy and fertility, based on his reading of Pfizer data submitted to the FDA, an interpretation which is not supported by peer-reviewed evidence. Also, in 2022, Kory and the FLCCC began marketing a cocktail of supplements and drugs (e.g. ivermectin and nitazoxanide) for other viruses, influenza and Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV). Like the FLCCC-advocated COVID treatments which has no credible supporting scientific evidence in support.

    Kory is president and co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a small U.S. organization of 8 physicians and 2 former journalists formed in April 2020 that advocates for ineffective COVID-19 treatments, including ivermectin. They have branched out to recommend against a number of medicines like the measles vaccine. Papers have been retracted for lies. Doctors in the group have lost their accreditations due to lies. They also sell “magic treatments” as alternatives which can cost $500 to $2,000 per dose. But Dempsey prints this shit and concludes: “These stats in light of stories like the child in Lubbock show the dark side of the medical system, which frequently gets deadly” which is a total lie told by a frequent liar to Dempsey who passes it on as the truth as they all make money off the lies.

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  3. WeeEEE The People

    The parents made the mistake of taking the child to a dangerous place when their other kids with measles safely got treated with the holistic doctor’s treatment. Hospitals have been killing people for decades and the terrifying official cause of medical errors as the 3rd leading killer in the country is beyond concerning. Whether it takes an apple or carrot, it seems safe to keep the doctor away from your family. Good job Ernest Dempsey for bringing this story to the public eye.

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  4. frank danger

    “The parents made the mistake of taking the child to a dangerous place,’ the hospital?

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    • WeeEEE The People

      He is not wrong there. This death and the stats of deaths by medical/hospital negligence show convincingly that the medical system is far more dangerous than measles or any infectious disease.

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      • frank danger

        “He is not wrong there. This death and the stats of deaths by medical/hospital negligence show convincingly that the medical system is far more dangerous than measles or any infectious disease.” One more time: IMO the data shows convincingly that we need to do a deep dive to find a truth we all can agree to, recommend steps to make hospitals a trusted source for getting better, and then measure results. These numbers are estimates based on estimates, we need a better consensus, if not a better statistical analysis of primary data. But directionally, at minimum, there is something wrong here that we can and should make better. Bear in mind, the first flag on this was raised in 1999, the actual numbers are not important to the decision that directionally, we should take action to fix. Starting with peer-group agreement to a single set of numbers and then a large-scale quantitative analysis of primary data points to get numbers better than an estimate on top of a group of estimates with data methodologies differences throughout. Again, this shit is right up RFK’s alley to prove he’s smarter than medical community. Plus, it actually could help people not die.

        “And no lawsuit has proven to be right” is correct spin from WE, the man who must hide in a group, except the wrongful death suit against Dr. Kory was initiated in 2024 and is ongoing. There is no lawsuit yet in Texas based on Dr. Kory’s expert forensics on the child’s death from measles as reported by the hospital/coroner. Frankly, the parents, Dr. Kory, WE, and others killed the kid by advocating against the proven safe, proven effective vaccine. Kids are also suffering in Texas from Vitamin A overdose, than you RFK, Dr. Kory, WE, and others for the bad, unsound, unscientific, advice.

        WE, the person and the group, said: “Catching Covid doesn’t show anything” except when Dr. Kory said he had the preventative, he took it, and he still caught it. The covid vaccine was never promised to stop you catching the disease. The first batch was thought to be 95% effective at that, but as Delta hit, it became clear that against the new mutation, that the vaccine curtailed hospitalization and further complications but upper respiratory infections still occurred. FYI: you can get the flu with the flu vaccine; the measles vaccine has a higher effectiveness that either the flu vaccine or the covid vaccine against early covid mutations. Tis just science, not that hard if you actually look at the facts. FYI: if the covid mutations slow, as it appears they have started, then I expect community immunity, plus better matches of vaccine to mutation, will make the covid vaccine similar to the flu vaccine. But not yet.

        WE spews: “The evidence is substantiated by the medical records and you will need to prove those wrong……” Actually, I don’t. The hospital/coroner’s report stands as far as I know. Dr. Kory, the family or other interested parties might sue, but I really have no need. And yes, the entire world is corrupt, against you, and boo hoo boo hoo, cry us a river. You got to love how the conspiracy theorists mind works, or not, when then say: “you need an investigation by the authorities – who are corrupt and compromised as proven by the fact that they didn’t look into the matter to begin with. So you have no argument there.” So, I guess pigs do fly because you didn’t look into the pig matter to begin with. Geez. Have you looked into the Earth being flat?

        You whine: “Dr. Kory is not discredited and your ignorance about the licensure vs certification was exposed in the previous comment. You have not acknowledged that yet.” Actually, I did, did you check both threads? I said you are correct; he can still practice medicine but doubtful you will see he, or his partner, at any hospital as all hospitals have severed ties with both these gents. He has his license but has lost his accreditation, which, to most, means he’s discredited. Except the fools that like to buy their cures from snake oil salesmen with unproven results after they have been discredited.

        “Old and weak data? lols. By what account? That is 2018 data.” Uh, the 2018 data is based on a series of previous reports from far earlier dates. The new assessment is an estimate based on a series of estimates where each estimate used a different methodology, time frame, demographics, and data sets. Thus, even the originator admits to the weakness of this type of analysis. That’s the problem when you see a NYPost headline, or worse from your blogosphere that tends to make estimates look like a rock-solid truth. In this case it’s estimates based on a variety of different assessments mashed together to form a new conclusion.

        “Much older and weaker are the numbers cooked up by the pharma-owned health agencies showing vaccines work and are safe.” Do you have actual facts here? Because the covid and measles data is pretty current. Let me try this: we could end measles in a week if people got vaccinated. We can not end covid, but, as this year shows, we THINK we MAY put a dent in it similar to the flu vaccine. MAYBE. The two vaccines, measles and covid has different levels of effectiveness although IMO, the covid vaccine effectiveness and longevity of effectives will get better over time. I HOPE I AM RIGHT. But I am right that you have not provided support to your big pharma claim.

        Hey, I will throw you a freebee: we really don’t know the long-term effects, bad, of the covid vaccine. While it looks great given how many doses out there, still too soon yet. But the initial dose is safe, side-effects well known, in the noise, and safety measures are in place. I am sorry, but with “billions sold,” these things look to be safe and effective. And there is NO DOUBT that if vaccinated, measles would end in a week.

        “RFK is not able to do anything. It’s a century of systemic corruption and abuse – much like cancer in the fourth stage.” Can’t argue this; taking on big pharma or big anything is tough. Look at us taking on Trump; we have failed miserably even though we should be crushing it. These old, entrenched, organizations, or billionaire elites, are tough to take down. You guys are doing well to do so much with DOGE and DEPORTATION but you had to do it wrong to get any traction and the breakage will be your undoing. You can fire that many without recession. You can disappear innocents without a blowback. And you can’t FUBAR classified info in a text chat room inviting a journalist, having a bitch who doesn’t even know what country in Asia she is or the dumb fuck listening in in Moscow, then lie to Congress about it, and expect to come out clean. The loose-lipped 18 should be reprimanded; Waltz fired. Gabbard and Ratcliffe should face Congressional perjury charges and Goldberg given Medal of Honor for attempted NOT to disclose the information until they back him into a corner.

        “The story is solid with evidence.” As solid as a discredited expert with a wrongful death suit against his advice you credit. The evidence stands as stated, nothing to change.

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        • WeeEEE The People

          Yeah to say it again, the data shows that your attempt to make it debatable is just useless. Your history of infectious disease and so-called deaths and injuries are estimates as well. And the alleged vaccine prevented deaths are worse than estimates. They are assumptions. The data clearly shows that medical deaths are far more prevalent than measles or any infectious disease deaths. So you don’t have a case or much room to spin it around.

          RFK may be smarter than medical community but he is not paid to do the job of the medical community – whose job is by the way to injure people and keep them on indefinitely renewable prescriptions, then kill a few to blame it on measles or other disease to sell vaccines. Seems right up your alley, doesn’t it? Now, if you seriously want people not to die, you’ll need to give up your pharma-aligned rhetoric and blind faith in the corrupt and criminal medical mafia.
          Lawsuit initiated but ongoing? So no conviction right? Means innocent till proven guilty. When the verdict comes in and all appeals are exhausted, you can return to claim something. And don’t forget to call back if the verdict is not what you want it to be. Till then you and your medical cabal remain accused of killing the Texan child to blame it on measles. People see through your lies.

          Covid vaccine was not meant to prevent covid? Lols. Thanks for admitting the uselessness in preventing it but that’s not what your daddies said when they promoted it. The 95 percent lie has to be supported with evidence. You forgot to explain that “thought to be” is another way of “estimated” “assumed” and ad nauseum.

          No evidence of Delta hitting or any mutation. You don’t have any real science to back up that myth.

          Flu and measles shots are equally useless and dangerous, measles shots more so as they inject multiple pathogenic substances in you it is not just measles but MMR so triple toxic.

          You have not provided a link to the hospital/coroner report on the measles death yet. And given the hospital is accused of the wrongful death, their report can’t be accepted for lack of objectivity. It has to be an independent investigation.

          Nice little step back from your license revocation claim. We’ve seen your ignorance and you are discredited not Dr. Kory.

          Actually your entire vaccine efficacy studies are estimates from decades ago and not real science. So you don’t have a case there by your own line of reasoning. Your CNN NYT or WP headlines are essentially lies claiming to be science.
          Current? Lols. What is the objective operational definition of current versus dated or old? Are you authority on deciding what passes as current vs what is old and dated? Back up your claim with evidence and documented science – which so far your word salad lacks. You are not right, and your hopes are just self-serving airy castles. No real truth value.

          Another para about covid shots with zero scientific evidence to back up the claims. What we know for sure is you repeat your claims but has no evidence to back them up. As for your claim, “And there is NO DOUBT that if vaccinated, measles would end in a week.” Lols. There is every doubt that you have again lied and made a baseless claim without supporting it with evidence.

          Well your criminal gang tried to take on Trump because that new sheriff in your town won’t submit to your criminal code of conduct. Your cabal tried to kill him but failed. I am not satisfied with DOGE and deportation. They are doing less than 5 percent of what they should be doing. I am also not happy with nobody getting fired yet despite that Signal fiasco. But I do agree with the conservatives that it is nothing compared with what the libtards did – Hillary should have been in jail long ago along with Obama Clinton Bush and Biden. These criminals are indeed too strong to touch under any admin. Gabbard and Ratcliffe should face the consequences but first those who made a worse mess over the last 30 years.

          Yes the story has solid evidence and you remain discredited to challenge it. The evidence stands and your attempt to discredit it only have taken you down.

          Waiting for the next round of your DANG-e-rant. 🙂

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  5. Mike F

    Urnst, Clearly the child was very sick (from the measles) which is why she had to be taken to the hospital (few people take their children to the hospital just to get them out of the house as WeeEEE apparently is thinking above-she was really ill, which yes, can and does happen with the measles, even if WeeEEE has not experienced that, such that holistic treatments won’t work). Had the child been vaccinated, it is unlikely she would have gotten the measles, would not have gone to the hospital, and therefore would not have been incorrectly treated. So, despite what Urnst says, even if there were other conditions than the measles that caused her death, her parents are ultimately responsible for her death for not getting her vaccinated because she died because she was sick from the measles….

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    • WeeEEE The People

      Being very sick from measles isn’t verified. She was sick from a secondary bacterial pneumonia and was pushed to death by not receiving the correct treatment by the medical staff at the hospital. And that killed her. Yes holistic treatments work because her other siblings also having measles received it and they recovered fine instead of getting worse or dying.

      As for the fallacious causality rationale that her parents were responsible for her death, it is just nonsense because measles vaccination does not prevent getting measles. So contrary to your lies, the hospital indeed is responsible for her death.

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      • frank danger

        That’s what he alleges. Has he sued for wrongful death? Have the parents? Does he even have any support beyond people like you?

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        • WeeEEE The People

          That’s what the medical records reveal. You claim that Melania was an illegal alien? Has there been an official investigation and lawsuit against her by any libtard state department yet? Or is it just every libtard’s allegation without evidence? Same for the fabricated sexual abuse claims. Has any of the women filed a criminal complaint against Trump for raping or attempting to rape them?

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  6. frank danger

    Gotta love a man who is passionate and persistent. Too bad he has to be a douche bag about it.
    Dude, we all agree that public investment created mRNA technology and that the US was a major player in that. All before the time of Trump and Trump has killed any future funding.
    But Pfizer licensed that technology and pays for it. They received zero covid vaccine development from either the US government or the taxpayer. mRNA was paid for well before the covid vaccine, before Trump, and Pfizer licenses it, as in pays for it still today, every dose.
    Yes, the government did give OWS money to Pfizer for pre-payment for doses as we locked other countries out, but not for development of the Pfizer covid vaccine, but that’s not for development, that’s for product. FYI: there are a lot of foreign government investments into mRNA and other elements of the covid vaccine as acknowledged in your report. How do you reconcile the foreign investments? Fact is no private company would make these multi-generational investments; it takes numerous country’s to do that and not only do we need public dollars to make this happen, but we need NOT to put our heads in the sand and stop dealing with other countries to work together for progress. Trump is not doing that.
    The mRNA technology was invented by a Hungarian immigrant to the US in 1963. mRNA technology was developed between 1985-2001 according to your report, before Trump, so I guess that’s not OWS funding… No pre-pandemic dollars went to Pfizer, although Moderna, CureVac and others got some pre-pandemic funding, according to your report. During the pandemic, according to your report: “Moderna received $10.8bn, of which $8.8bn (81%) was for vaccine supply. Pfizer-BioNTech received $20.4bn, mostly for vaccine supply. One billion vaccine doses were purchased for international donation from Pfizer-BioNTech at a substantially reduced price compared with vaccines intended for Americans.” Note that Pfizer dollars are not development, but distribution as in pre-payment for dosages. Pfizer has said the same.
    So yes, the US invested in mRNA development. They did not invest in Pfizer covid vaccine development. Pfizer pays a license for the mRNA, they actually basically pay for mRNA development too. You continue to be wrong there by cherry picking sound bites of support at 10,000 feet while spinning away from anything that shows how wrong you are at 30,000 feet.
    This is not the story of did Trump fund Pfizer, he did not. This is not the story of Trump funded mRNA, he did not. This is really a great story of US investment staring over 30 years ago into not only mRNA, but all sorts of medical stuff that went into the covid vaccine which, unlike you, the authors conclude is a very good thing that saved millions of lives you cast off with your opinion. According to the report: “The US government invested at least $31.9bn to develop, produce, and purchase mRNA covid-19 vaccines, including sizeable investments in the three decades before the pandemic through March 2022. These public investments translated into millions of lives saved and were crucial in developing the mRNA vaccine technology that also has the potential to tackle future pandemics and to treat diseases beyond covid-19. To maximize overall health impact, policy makers should ensure equitable global access to publicly funded health technologies.” Yeah baby, not only did mRNA make the covid vaccine possible, but the success of the covid vaccine means you will see mRNA all over the place soon. Ha ha.
    You lie when you claim: ““It” is the US government aka taxpayer money squandered by the elected and unelected people occupying the public offices. Yes I’m very much talking the vaccine for which mRNA technology is the vital basis and integral part of it – both Moderna and Pfizer-BIONTEC.” FYI, you are right, it is Biontech, not Biotech as I wrote, my bad, sorry. You say the vaccine is dangerous, the money invested in development and distribution a waste because no one can be proven to have died from covid. The authors in the report you used state:
    “One of the greatest public health successes to come out of the covid-19 pandemic was the development of safe and effective mRNA vaccines against SARS-CoV-2.1. Approximately 92% of fully vaccinated Americans received an mRNA based vaccine, marking the first time that this vaccine delivery system has been used at scale. In the first year alone, all covid-19 vaccines are estimated to have collectively prevented 20 million deaths globally, including preventing 1.1 million deaths in the US.”
    Damn, that does not seem like a waste of money to save 1.1 American lives and 20 million across the globe. Of course, WTP’s method of denial saves more money…..or does it?
    Seems they proved how good the vaccine was and how valuable our investment was. Too bad Trump has killed it for our children’s future. And you too would cut our noses despite having faces by stopping all this great research. That’s the way of the conservative rabid hard right. It took 30 years to make this happen, most before Trump, and Trump and his acolytes are killing it for the future. You see, in wanting a smaller government, less taxes, you end what government is best at: investing in important things, many being multi-generational investments, that the private sector would never undertake. Thirty fucking years of investment in this freaking case. And Trump kills it for our children’s future. But I digress.
    Again: mRNA technology is the foundation of the covid vaccine and took 30 years to develop with US and foreign government funding. Again, Pfizer licenses the technology so essentially is paying the US to invest in those patents. As in Pfizer is giving the US money, not the other way around. For every dose produced, for any country Pfizer sells to. OWS did not fund Pfizer development, Pfizer pays the license. OWS did give Pfizer millions to pre-purchase doses for the US and for charity across the globe; Trump kills foreign aid. Those dollars are for product, for distribution, but not for development.
    It’s a fascinating report highlighting the complexity and time it takes to create inventions like this which, according to your report, saved 20 million across the globe in the covid vaccine’s first year of introduction. Frankly, if you are not vaccinated, and unless you are one of the few naturally immune, then you benefited from the vaccine being taken by people around you, much braver and smarter than you. Thanks for linking it, makes a great read. You should actually read the whole thing, or at least the conclusions and results.
    One last note. Because of the complexity, the time, the number of players, the authors admit they are wrong and others have different results. Shows how important methodology is and how these authors went much deeper than previous. Also shows that, like vaccines, this information is not perfect, may only keep you out of the hospital, but you may still catch the disease. I am betting we do better at some point in the future. Like measles where the vaccine WILL stop you from getting the disease.
    Now, people like WTP want to bitch and moan over the $$$ spent for something that might not pay off immediately. His own article bespeaks the need to basically toss money away trying to gain innovations and breakthroughs. I hate waste, but can easily see using our joint funds to fund things short term investors like private companies, won’t. mRNA is a 30-year gamble and it paid off big time. OWS did not move the ball 100 yards down the field, that was done before Trump with funding Trump has killed. OWS get the ball into the over the goal line when we were in the red zone. But Pfizer was part of the 100 yards of funding, pays a license for it, and got noting but pre-paid orders from OWS.

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    • WeeEEE The People

      Oh that’s a nice little confession. Yeah after denying counter to evidence you admit it all was built on federal funds. Yes Pfizer employed that technology paid for by the U.S. federal money. I am glad that Trump killed any future funding. The useless and dangerous tech and product should not have been developed at all. I do like your self-describing title of douchebag for you. Douchbag DANG-er, lols. What an epic confessional ending to your hopeless case!

      Useless littering of the place with copy-paste text from quick searches – classic trait of douchebag DANG-er in comment boxes. Distribution is part of the business and benefited Pfizer so that is yet another nail in your little coffin of denial while the development was also made possible by the federal finds as proven in the link provided. What Pfizer says is irrelevant, as it lies like you. So ignored!

      So yes, the US invested in mRNA development. – And that is all one needs to ignore your denial. As the paper said, EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. As for the success of the mRNA, yeah business success that quickly dropped when the scaremongering went away and people stopped taking it with increasing awareness of its uselessness and dangers to health and life. The theft of 2020 election was a temporary success for the swamp and now Trump is your president again. Speak of last laugh! ROFL!!

      “You are right, it is Biontech, not Biotech as I wrote, my bad, sorry.” LOLS. Ignorant AF is how you spell your name? I thought so!
      Those claims of the authors lack evidence and claims without evidence are just claims. You can repeat them a million times, or a billion, or more if you like, they mean nothing but hot air. And we know you are really good at spreading that substance. So if you want to give it another try, sure, produce the evidence to back up the claims.

      The fraud that took 30 years to execute itself was executed with the noose of truth in less than 3 years. It came off quickly as real researchers questioned it and despite the propaganda cartels’ best bought-and-paid for efforts, people learnt the truth about the vaccines and rejected them. The vaccine sheeple meanwhile owe it to Trump to approve fast-tracking of these or else there would be no Covid shots still, at least in America. So yeah, keep applauding Trump. After he he is your president for the next four years – again!

      And yeah, again thanks for admitting that the US funds developed all the vaccines including Pfizer. Science says that the vaccine saved no lives but has taken many. The pseudoscientific claims of vaccine immunity are lacking in evidence and your repetition that they did this or that amount to nothing but your DANG-er hot air. Now if you have real solid scientific evidence, why don’t you give it another shot?

      “One last note. Because of the complexity, the time, the number of players, the authors admit they are wrong and others have different results.” BAHAHAHAHHAHA. DANG-er at his confessional coffin. Loving it. Yeah, WRONG is the word. lols

      The pathetic failure of the vaccines mirrors the lies of idiots like stupid Nazi DANG-er (his own pronouns) – by endless repetitions they try to deceive themselves and the world that they won. That is when they put their delusional psychosis on the pedestal for public view. The vaccine industry made money by these lies. But what is DANG-er making? Answer: a clown of himself. LOLS

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  7. Frank danger

    No: the mRNA Technology was invented by a Hungarian scientist, who immigrated to the US, using a fair amount of US federal funding. The mRNA technology was also funded by a number of other foreign governments. it was a 30 year development that much of the world participated in at some point.

    The mRNA technology is not the Covid vaccine, it is just a major technology within the vaccine. The US government gave no funding to Pfizer to develop the Covid vaccine. Pfizer’s covid vaccine does use the MRNA technology and it pays for it by licensing it from the owner.

    Trump never funded any mRNA technology development. He did, however, kill the funding recently for any future development. In other words, he killed the miracle.

    I do not understand your difficulty in comprehending this and your steadfast delusion that Trump funded Pfizer to develop the Covid vaccine. Or that Pfizer, paying for the mRNA license somehow means they did not pay for it. You seem thick as a brick on the concepts here.

    You claim that Pfizer is a liar, you have no proof. He claimed that I am a liar, you have no proof. I think that makes you a liar.

    I do not think that OWS did anything for distribution. Matter fact, as far as I can tell, Trump completely screwed the pooch when it came to distribution, and Biden had to clean up his mess with with a ground start approach. Apparently, Trump‘s plan was to declare state rights, and figure out what the fuck to do when it happened or dump it in the next guy‘s lap like he did, the same way he dumped the Afghanistan withdraw that was his plan in Biden‘s lap. It is his way. Transition apparently is a four letter word for the guy.

    Did you just call me a NaZI? You don’t even know what that means. My father face a panzer, he knew. His guys werexsone ifcthe first in the campa, they saw. My fil went behind the NAZI lines to care for family, he knew. Two of my uncles were killed by them. Another flew the Berlin airlift, he saw them. You really aim below the belt with your childish name calling because you can’t debate like a gentleman.

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    • WeeEEE The People

      Ah another confession – US funded mRNA technology. At times it seems there may still be hope for you, but you do drown it fast. It is the core technology of the vaccine development and the fast-tracking of the trial phases makes Trump the unprecedented developer of the COVIDS vaccines – and it was a federally funded operation. So thank you for admitting it.

      The mRNA tech for vaccine development continued under Trump and as noted in the paper:

      “Although the public funding supporting Moderna is widely recognized, Pfizer-BioNTech executives have claimed that the company did not accept any US government support to develop its vaccine. However, Pfizer-BioNTech would not have been able to develop an mRNA covid-19 vaccine without the licensed technologies emerging from research funded by US taxpayers.

      In addition:

      “During the pandemic, the public investment in the mRNA covid-19 vaccine products via Operation Warp Speed was far more extensive than for any previous public product development. For example, the NIH invested $220m in research for an Ebola vaccine from 2004 to 2013 and about $1.1bn in 2015 for Ebola countermeasures via BARDA, the Department of Defense, and the NIH. From 2014 to 2021, the NIH invested $369m toward a tuberculosis vaccine and $439m toward a malaria vaccine. Total public funding previously estimated for other key pharmaceuticals included $62m for buprenorphine, $60.9m for sofosbuvir, $13.8m for pregabalin, and $85m for paclitaxel.”

      So you owe it to Trump. And your denial equals delusion. As for slashing the funding, that is actually where I really laud Trump. He was played by the swamp nicely during his first term. But he is getting smarter and his second term is better.

      Oh Pfizer is a certified liar, even a bigger one than you. Prof=of? Well for an ignorant ranter like you with no knowledge of the world, yeah there is no proof. But for those of us who look at news, we know that Pfizer has paid billions in compensation to those affected by its lies. The big Zantac scandal is quite recent.

      “Pfizer Settles 10,000 Zantac Lawsuits for Up to $250M.” https://www.drugwatch.com/ May 30, 2024

      “Pfizer Agrees to Pay Nearly 60M to Resolve False Claims Allegations Relating to Improper Physician Payments by Subsidiary.” Department of Justice, January 24, 2025

      “Pfizer pays record fine for illegal promotions: Pfizer Inc., the world’s largest drug maker, will pay a record $2.3-billion US civil and criminal penalty over unlawful prescription drug promotions.” CBC, September 3, 2009

      And these are just the bigger ones that made headlines worldwide.

      So all these make you a liar and a moron. Not an impossible combo there. 🙂

      What you think is irrelevant because you have shown your ignorance and stupidity beyond any reasonable doubt. Your brain and Biden’s diaper may pass for the same object without careful testing. His Afghanistan disaster is slightly less than your mental health catastrophe. 🙂

      Please spare me the fabrications of your made-up kin in this or that Nazi camp. If there were any indeed, they must have been part of the Nazi squad, and now likely serving key posts in the Azov Battalion in Ukraine. America has a Nazi problem and you make a case for it.

      Debate like a gentleman? Bahahhahahah look who’s talking?

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