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Its official (almost) … Cheney is a Democrat

Its official (almost) … Cheney is a Democrat

In the world of politics, some things are simple.  To wit: If you campaign for Republicans, you are a Republican.  If you campaign for Democrats, you are a Democrat. Oh sure … occasionally a person may campaign for a candidate of the opposite party for unique reasons, but that is the exception, not the rule.

That is the reason for the headline.  Wyoming Congresswoman Liz Cheney is spending every waking moment trying to defeat Republican candidates across the country.  Her avid mission was initially to boot Trump from the presidency through the impeachment process – and eventually boot him from leadership in the GOP.  She has stated more than once that she would do whatever it takes to make sure Trump does not return to the Oval Office.

All of that could be viewed as an intra-party feud between her and President Trump.  Just infighting between factions within the Republican Party.  That goes on all the time – and in the Democratic Party, too.

When Cheney accepted a seat on Speaker Pelosi’s politicized Select Committee, she essentially had joined the other side.  She not only was an antagonist to Trump, but she also began to spread her hostile views against the Republican leadership in Congress. She took up the Democrats’ anti-GOP political narratives that were crafted to defeat every Republican in the upcoming midterm elections.  She even vilified Republican voters. She was singing off the Democrat song sheet.

She did all this while attempting to retain her seat in Congress AS A REPUBLICAN.    Weeell … the voters of Wyoming are not fools.  The same folks that gave Cheney a 70 percent victory in the 2020 primary election, gave her 28.9 percent support this year – essentially sending her packing after the end of her current term.

And it was the correct decision.  Not only has Cheney spent the past year working against the entire Republican Party – and against her one-time conservative values – but she is now traveling around the country encouraging voters to vote for Democrats.

Whether she calls herself a Republican or not is inconsequential.  She campaigns for left-wing Democrats.  The Wyoming GOP has booted her – and Republican voters have taken away her Republican office.

I feel sorry for former Vice President Dick Cheney.  He has two daughters. One who has betrayed his longstanding moral and political beliefs – living a life repugnant to everything he stood for all his life.  The other daughter is a lesbian.

There is a lot of talk about Liz Cheney’s future in politics.  Another office.  Maybe a run for President in 2024.  You can safely bet, however, that any political future will NOT be in the Republican Party.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.


  1. Tom

    Well the facts in this post seem to be accurate but some statements seem skewed. Ms. Chaney has repeatedly stated her motivation which is “preservation of the democracy”. She perceives Trump and the MAGA election denying GOP candidates as a huge threat to the democracy and so do I. So her course of action is reasonable but maybe not politically correct – so what, that is the beauty of our system, people can speak out against powerful leaders! MAGA people brag how we are not like China, yet when one of their own speaks out against the bad actors in their party, they treat that brave soul just like Xi Jinping treats his opposition within the CCP. The shame should be on the MAGA people, not Ms. Chaney. The election was not stolen, and even according to DOJ Barr, it was a fair election and fraudulent voting practices did not exist sufficient enough to throw the election to Biden. Trump simply lost, and Barr said so. So did Jerod, Ivanka, and many others. Trump also had much to do with the insurrection as more evidence becomes available, and has withheld classified documents violating all classification, retention and storage policies of the federal government – but MAGA people think this is a lie too. I suppose it would have been better for Ms. Chaney’s political future to be more like Mushmouth McConnell or maybe flip-flopper extraordinaire Lindsey Graham, or maybe like lie guzzling violence video producing Kevin McCarthey. I am amazed at MAGA people who claim to be all for our system but look at Ms. Chaney who wants to preserve the democracy, with disdain because rather than be a flip-flopper, or a lie guzzler or a violent video producer, she actually stuck to her altruistic values of protecting the USA from MAGA bad actors aforementioned. This post is erroneously placing the blame and shame on Ms. Chaney when it should be placing the blame on the MAGA bad actors and their lie guzzling voter base. This is the independent / unaffiliated point of view!

    • Russell Wolffe

      OOPS! Your ignorance is on display! If you hate freedom, rights, and God, perhaps you should GTFO of America, and head to somewhere more suited to your mentality. Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea, Africa, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Africa, Canada, Mexico, ANY country south of the border… the list goes ON AND ON Perfect places for you.

    • Florida Phil

      So in truth you have no dog in the fight save for your interest in Ms. ChEney who claims she’s trying to “preserve democracy”. Why, as an independent, are you concerned? Several other potential candidates are out there. BTW, there is now more evidence have giving credence to it being an unfair 2020 election: leaks from verifiable sources have been coming out such as the media largely burying the Hunter Biden story among others which could have proven to sink Joe Biden’s campaign.

      Democrats too have denied the legitimacy/validity of our elections, Hillary Clinton spent several years decrying her so-called not-actual loss due to a number of claimed violations (“And another thing”), and even more recently, Ms. Stacy Abrams. The media, in concert with the party of Democrats (I refuse to call it the “Democratic Party” as little of democratic principals are obvious to an observer such as me). I take exception to your stating that she has “altruistic values”. Perhaps the Democrat’s method of (mis-)using words is not obvious to you. Understand that over our history,

      • Tom

        I have much more understanding of our election history and processes than you might think. Suppressing information on Hunter Biden is not evidence of an unfair election. It is evidence of a DOJ that has become politicized, which it was blamed for when it released the the information on the 33,000 emails on Clinton’s home basement server. I thought it was deplorable as did you. The evidence against Mr. Trump (especially the damning evidence of alternate electors lists) far outweighs any evidence of election fraud, especially since Mr. Barr and several others close to Mr. Trump stated the election was fair. What I was saying is that even accounting for any evidence of minor election fraud, the DOJ and others have come out with a final conclusion that even accounting for any such frauds, it would not have tipped the ballot results in favor of Mr. Trump securing enough electoral votes to win the election. The election was not stolen was their conclusion, not mine. As far as my interests in Ms. ChEney, I have none. I only have an interest in the truth – which MAGA folks appear to sign up to “alternate truths or imagined truths”, and I have an interest in behaviors of our legislators, and as such there was much misbehavior on the part of MAGA legislators such as Graham, and McCarthy, and others. Both parties would be wise to be interested in the independent / unaffiliated vote since we are the largest voting group.

        • larry Horist

          Tom … What I like about you is your ability to look at situations with a healthy degree of objectivity. We may not always agree, but at least you have an underpinning to your opinions — even when you come to wrong conclusions (wink)

        • frank stetson

          +1 Tom, very nicely stated.

        • ACE of ♥️

          Ms Cheney employs the processing skills rarely, if ever, understood, recognized, not appreciated by Republicans. Truth discovery practicing critical thinking. The proven method of those who refuse to accept issues on face value, She does due diligence digging deep down into the essence going where ever it leads. If she roots out Republican or Democrat rotten business her integrity does not allow its being covered up.
          Whether her determination for establishing truth in facts found is a Republican trait or a Democrat quality should not be part of the question. The high quality of her character is a value transcending political party.
          She and her sister have not brought anything but positivity to the Cheney family
          Legacy. Both are brave strong women and examples of great character.
          Larry’s perception of the Cheney sisters has no merit. It is founded on uncharitable opinion bias quick to judge and slow to credit when credit is due. Backing the badly flawed, misguided, and unquestionably dangerous man, Trump or his band of election denier candidates across the country shows disregard for American basic values. Those values common to conservative and liberal philosophy proponents.

    • larry Horist

      Tom … You and I have different assumptions. You start by believing the the American Republic (democracy) was — and is __ in existential danger. I never have seen that. Even if you believe that a handful of nutcases had such “dreams of grandeur” — or even that Trump & Co. had crossed over into criminality in their efforts to remain in office — the Republic was never at risk. The courts will sort of the individual actions. Not a singe institutional pilar of the Republic — not a single safeguard — failed.

      Cheney may have been concerned over that actions of President Trump — and voted for impeachment. I would give here that. But when she joined the kangaroo one-side prosecutorial Select Committee — and labeled herself a savior or an endangered Republic, I saw here as engaging in self-aggrandizement based on a hyperbolic description of the situation. While you may see nobility in her motives, I see arrogant self-praise. IN terms of fighting to save democracy, I see Cheney tilting at windmills — engaging in back patting. She is taking advantage of the Democrats pumped up narratives of insurrections, coup attempts.

      I compare it to the 1960s, when the left was talking revolution — the violent overthrow of the government. Their actions were more violent … most sustained. Violent outbreaks in multiple communities. But even then, they were never a serious threat to the republic. But they were a lot more real and dangerous than the current political narratives.

  2. frank stetson

    Larry thinks Cheney is a Democrat because she decries Trump’s actions before, during, and after January 6, 2021 in furtherance of his illegally remaining in power. He stands up to tell her to sit down. Here’s other Republicans who stood up and RESIGNED on or shortly after 1.6.2021. Are they Democrats?

    Betsey DeVos said 1/6 “unconscionable for our country” and she quit Trump

    Mitch McConnell’s wife, Elaine Chao quit Trump over 1/6 saying she was “deeply troubled me in a way that I simply cannot set aside.”

    Mick Mulvaney told his boss: “I can’t do it. I can’t stay.” as he walked away from Trump after he tweeted during 1/6: “The President’s tweet is not enough. He can stop this now and needs to do exactly that. Tell these folks to go home.”

    Chad Wolf quit Trump saying: ” this action is warranted by recent events.”

    Matthew Pottinger, John Costello, Tyler Goodspeed, Stephanie Grisham, Rickie Niceta, Sarah Matthews, Elinore F. McCance-Katz, Eric S. Dreiband, Rob Greenway, Anthony Ruggiero, Ryan Tully, Mark Vandroff, Erin Walsh, they all stood up while Larry sat down.

    Are they all Democrats in Larry’s mind?

    Or maybe something was seriously wrong with what happened on January 6th, 2021. And they think Trump is the central figure in what happened on January 6th, 2021. And they resigned their posts working for the President of the United States en masse.

    • larry Horist

      Frank Stetson … There you go again telling me what I think… or what the Larry Horist of your imagination thinks. As usual, you are wrong. Youi are also continuing your reading comprehension problem. Or maybe you are just intellectually dishonest. I thought this commentary — and past ones on Cheney — explained in some detail why I single her out as a Republicans/conservatives apostate — along with Adam Kissinger. That does NOT apply to others who even voted to impeach. It was the totality of Cheney’s and Kinzinger’s actions. Beyond that, you again created your Larry Horist straw man … and again demonstrated your ignorance. If I were at the White House in the final days of the Trump administration, i would have been among those quitting. I found Trump’s actions to be reprehensible — but I also keep a rational mind as to the extend of Trump’s culpabilities. While his critics operate like a vigilante gang, I prefer to look at Trump’s actual legal liabilities — and I do think he has some in the various cases. But you prefer to express your insults and attacks in the third person — and I understand that since you are not talking about me, but rather your private mythical Larry Horist. I wonder … do you carry on actual conversations with him before you do your writing?

  3. ben is back

    The emperor has opened his kimono and it appears the emperor has no balls.

    Larry has told us what he believes and who he is. I truly hope Larry has misspoke when he said: “I feel sorry for former Vice President Dick Cheney. He has two daughters. One who has betrayed his longstanding moral and political beliefs – living a life repugnant to everything he stood for all his life. The other daughter is a lesbian.”

    Is Larry really saying he feels sorry for Cheney because “The other daughter is a lesbian?” And Larry feels that’s on the same level as: “betrayed his longstanding moral and political beliefs – living a life repugnant to everything he stood for all his life.”

    I really hope this is some poor writing because it sure smacks of Larry denigrating lesbians by equating lesbianism with a life repugnant to everything Cheney stands for which, if that is the case, shows us who and what Larry really is. That’s not a true conservative but a bastardization of Reganism with Trumpism hatred for anything outside of their outdated, parochial “norms.”

    If Larry believes what he has written, that’s a sin. “I feel sorry for former Vice President Dick Cheney.” “The other daughter is a lesbian.”

    I can go point by point, but why bother. Larry basically has said Cheney is a Democrat because she, using facts determined under oath to Congress, is showing the world who Trump is and what he did on and before 1/6 in his vain attempts to retain his Presidency, at any cost. He calls that “politicization” because his “side” opted out, multiple times, which they admit was a mistake, their mistake.

    Cheney has also been pretty clear she’s against Trumpism in her party, the Republican party. The fact that she is taking on some Trumplicants and/or Trump-endorsed candidates just makes common sense if you are taking on Trump. Does Larry think Trump is a Republican, a Conservative cut from the same bolt as Lincoln, Reagan, Eisenhower or even Bush Sr., Bush Jr, or Ford. IMO. he is a black mark on your party, always has been, always will.

    The fact that she lost her race shows the power of the Trump that Larry keeps telling us does not exist, is not relevant in the modern Republican party, and that he likes the policies, but not the man. He forgets that Cheney has a higher Trump voting record than many other Republicans he admires and deems part of the party that he deems she is not. She IS more conservative than most Republicans. On the record.

    There’s an investigation going on, there are a half dozen folks convicted of seditious conspiracy at the Capitol, on Trump’s request, on January 6th, 2021. More will be convicted shortly. This was a horrific day when Trump’s chief keystone to overturn the election, Mike Pence, said no and then refused to get into a car to be driven away from the Capitol with Trump’s SS team. What did he fear? It was a day when people were actively hunting officials in Congress, where close to 150 men-in-blue were injured by Trumplicants. They pissed on our Capitol. Larry has basically told you; if you don’t tow the Trump line, if you stand up and say, “no Sir, I will take no more,” if you fight against Trumpism, then you are no longer a Republican. That’s how the emperor rolls. That’s who he is.

    I only hope true Republicans will retake the party letting Larry go to his new MAGA party where he belongs.

    • Tom

      Thanks for addressing the lesbian comment. The comment was inapproprate to the theme of the post. I was going to address it but forgot. Thanks again for addressing it!

      • larry Horist

        Tom … I know, you do not see the humor in it. That is a problem in our national discourse.. That is why comedian stop appearing before liberal audiences. I would have expect more of you.

        • ben is back

          Ah, Larry thinks denigrating lesbians is funny. Nice recovery try, NOT.

          Really showing his true colors on this one.

    • larry Horist

      Ben is back … but without a sense of humor. The daughters thing was a joke…. but as a dyed-in-the-wool lefty, you have no sense of humor. Everything is seen through a distorted lens of victimization. I get a kick out of how my antagonist always make the issue about me in the third person — the me they create in their mind. You prefer ad hominin attacks rather than a direct person-to person dialogue on the issues. But enjoy!

      • ben is back

        My goodness that is funny (sarcasm alert). Good try, but you fumbled the ball on this one. I gave you a chance to walk in back and you slammed on the gas and moved forward asking us to believe that a lesbian put-down is a funny thing. I guess it’s time to tell that Horist family joke, you know, that one that ends: “And his other kid is black.” My goodness, that punchline never gets old. Like you.

  4. M

    So, by Larry’s decree, if you think the Republican Party is headed in the wrong direction, and declare your intent to vote for a Democrat in your state – now you’re a Democrat? No matter that the Republican Party is (still) led by a FPOTUS who tried to reverse an election? I guess there’s no room in the Republican tent for other opinions.

    Almost every Republican in Congress reacted against Trump and his call to attack the Capitol on Jan 6th. And then, within weeks (or sometimes within days), when they realized that Trump would attack them and could damage their re-election chances, they reversed their rhetoric to support Trump again.

    Cheney and the other dozen or so Senators who refused to be intimidated by Trump. Cheney has done nothing against the Party, only worked to hold Trump accountable. This is not the same as “working against the Party”. The Party has chosen to work against Democracy, and Cheney has elected not to follow that course. There’s a big difference.

    Cheney will never be accepted as a Democrat. I do hope that she starts her own Party to replace the Republican Party. That will give Republicans a true conservative party to get behind, and let it compete on the basis of platforms and ideas instead of cheating.

    • larry Horist

      M (Joe) … politically Cheney is toast. You are correct, she has no home in the Democratic Party or the GOP… and no gravitas as a third party candidate.

      • frank stetson

        Agree with that one and some part of me is thankful that your party is throwing her under the bus. She was a formidable adversary that’s been sidelined.

      • M

        Larry, you just can’t resist telling people information that isn’t public… How did you manage to work in government with such a lack of discretion? I suppose working for Nixon probably helped…

        • larry Horist

          M Not sure what you mean. You use a number of screen names that are all public. You said you were only using the one letter screen names because some one way back when began using you original screen name — and you still use it from time to time. Are you now saying that you use so many screen names to fool readers into believe your opinions are being shared by other individuals?

          • M

            Larry, yet again, either you’re lying or you’re stupid… “Not sure what you mean”… You deliberately look at the incoming email address and use that to identify me to all the readers, almost every time I write. If I want to mix up the addresses, that’s my business. The only reason I do that is because PBP (i.e. you and Joe) has already violated my privacy.

            If Nixon had told you, “don’t tell anyone, but I record everything in the Oval Office”, you would think it’s OK to say “somewhere in the Capitol, somebody will be recording you”… even if people knew you talked to the President… you didn’t EXACTLY say the President is recording everyone, but you give away enough clues that people could figure it out. It’s just a way to make yourself feel important, like your inflated resume.

          • Joe Gilbertson

            Get over it. Nobody give a crap about your comments.

          • Frank stetson

            I like to read his comments.

          • Joe Gilbertson

            OK, Frank, I take it back.

          • Frank stetson

            There’s a first.

  5. Frank stetson

    Cheney sure looked like a real Republican today as she called for the Trump subpoena.

    Now we will see how tough Captain Bonespurs is.

    No way he can stand questioning under oath. Not like Washington, Clinton and at least five other Presidents. He’s gonna balk.

    • larry Horist

      Frank Stetson …. even you should know the subpoena was a political stunt, It cannot be enforced for months and months. The Committee knows they will never interview Trump. Trump will be under oath in other cases. And we still do not know what Garland can or will do about an indictment. Keep in mind that the Committee is a political creation with no enforcement powers.

      • frank stetson

        And let me guess —- you think it’s a good thing for Trump not to answer to Congress? That’s one way to see it. But we will run the paces to see if Trump can stand up to Liz Cheney. So far, it’s a balk, LIz is still at the plate and Don ain’t pitching any strikes. She’s there, waiting to see if Don can face her. He demurs.

        I prefer the other way to look at it: that Trump can not come before the American people to explain his actions that resulted in 1.6.

        He does not have the balls to go under oath.

        He does not have the balls to tell us what he was doing instead of calling for support during those hours.

        He does not have the balls to explain how he wanted armed citizens to join his rally.

        He just wants to hide in Mar A Largo with his stolen classified materials. Or visiting the faithful who believe anything this fool spews.

        • larry Horist

          Frank Stetson …. Let you guess? lol That is what you do most of of the time. Virtually every attack you make on Larry Horist is a guess … and wrong.

  6. frank stetson

    Captain Bonespur’s official response to his subpoena: “Why didn’t the Unselect Committee ask me to testify months ago? Why did they wait until the very end, the final moment of their last meeting? Because the Committee is a total ‘BUST’ that has only served to further divide our Country which, by the way, is doing very badly – A laughing stock all over the World?” proving that the Don reads Frank Stetson on PMP and Larry is BUSTED when he says Frank has no readers :>)

    What a tough guy, sounds like a little girl upset about not being asked to the Prom earlier.

    Of course, he did not commit to speak to the world, under oath, about his activities leading up to 1/6 or how he spent the day watching the rioters on TV, eating burgers, tossing them, and chortling as they injured close to 150 cops. Never called in the additional support for the cops he watched being brutalized. Never raised a finger. Never responded to all those calls, texts, whatever begging him to take some action.

    I would say, in round one, Trump has a balk.

    Round two will be his stupid negotiations to avoid the “under oath” part…… way or another. Cuz I don’t think: “well, they should have called me earlier if they wanted me to come to the Prom” will fly as his excuse.

    • Florida Phil

      Frank, your mind must be fascinating place in which to exist. I imagine there must be flora and fauna of the entire color spectrum given your colorful view the world. Must be near overrun with unicorns and poppy fields. What a splendid place to form your mny unique thoughts and perspectives. Most of us exist in this drab world of liberal overreach. Aaah, such is our lot in life. But we persist, as do you. Have a Happy Halloween.

      • Joe Gilbertson

        That is the best description of Frank that I have heard!

        • frank stetson

          Pretty funny how Don’s quote makes you flashback to your 60’s LSD tripping days of poppies and unicorns.

          Let me know when you stop being personal and desire to debate the topic based on facts, figures, and even your uptight-white opinions.

          But then again, Trump is subpoenaed, what else could you do but get personal.

          • larry Horist

            Frank Stetson … Give up your claims of wanting to discuss issues. Check the record. You may be the number one ad hominin attacker on this site.. I write a serious commentary and you inevitably bring up your imaginary Larry Horist as a straw man punching bag. Its called “projection.” Look it up.

          • Frank stetson

            So glad you’re moving away from being personal he said sarcastically.

            Paper does not refuse ink and you can say I am the bigger attacker.

            That does not make it true.

            It is not true.

            As I have shown, in your own words.

            The only one you showed recently was egregious, was obviously a parody of your hate speak, and had a happy face at the end. Others even noted how you missed the obvious joke.

            Let’s discuss the topics without being personal. Otherwise, carry on.

  7. Stan

    Her sister is a dyke. So Liz must have a little democrat in her