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Democrat Party suffers from “too many preachy females”

Democrat Party suffers from “too many preachy females”

Who would say such a thing?  President Trump?  Tucker Carlson?  Sean Hannity?  Nope!

That was the stated opinion of longtime Democrat strategist James Carville.  It comes from the sanctum sanctorum of leftwing ideology, the  New York Times.  according to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.  The blunt-talking Ragin’ Cajun political operative was famous for adding “It’s the economy, stupid” to the political lexicon.

This latest statement is extraordinary because it flies directly into the face of the Democratic Party’s claim to being the party of women’s issues and rights.  And Carville made his statements to the Times, one of the sanctum sanctorum of progressive theology. 

Democrats have long bragged about an advantageous “female gap” with the Republican Party.  The highly touted women’s movement has long been seen as the feminist wing of the Democratic Party.   The Party lays claim to voting demographics described as “soccer moms,” “suburban housewives” and “Black women.”

Carville blames those “preachy women” — who he says dominate and feminize the Democratic Party messaging — for President Biden’s low polling numbers – especially the precipitous drop in the President’s numbers with Black voters.

It was not a misstatement or a throw-away line.  Carville added:

“If you listen to Democratic elites — NPR is my go-to place for that — the whole talk is about how women, and women of color, are going to decide this election. I’m like: ‘Well, 48 percent of the people that vote are males. Do you mind if they have some consideration?”

Carville went on to mock what he sees as the feminization of political dialogue.

“Don’t drink beer.  Don’t watch football.  Don’t eat hamburgers.  This is not good for you. Everything you’re doing is destroying the planet. You’ve got to eat your peas.”

Carvill summarized his opinion of Democrat messaging with, “The message is too feminine.”

He argued that Democrat leadership was focusing on the influence of women within the party at the expense of male votes.  Carville cited the polling numbers showing Trump and Republicans making significant inroads with Black voters – especially Black men.

In his most colorful manner, Carville said “When I look at these polling numbers, it’s like walking in on your grandma naked.  You can’t get the image out of your mind.”

While Carville attests to being an admirer of Biden and a dedicated Democrat, he did not pull punches in pointing out his criticism of the contemporary Democratic Party as being too liberal and too woke.  He called out progressives for being “too censorious,” and having “faculty lounge’ attitudes.” He said the “woke stuff is killing us” – using words like “Latinx” or “communities of color.”  He referred to the progressive tone as “sneering.”

Carville rhetorically asked:

“Who ever thought it was a good idea to tell people you can’t hug them or you’ve got to be careful or you’ve got to think about names to call them other than the name you know them by?  There’s nothing wrong with me being white or you being white or them being Black or me being male or you being female. It’s a giant, stupid argument.”

He concluded, “No one wants to live like this.”

Carville complained that “There are a lot of people on the left that would rather lose and be pure because it makes them feel good, it makes them feel superior.”

There is no doubt that Carville is going to get a lot of panties in a bunch.  His remarks will be considered sexist, chauvinistic and misogynistic.  Ironically, the more women voice their umbrage over his comments, the more valid they may appear.

Democrats would be foolish to disregard or condemn his comments.  Carville is not a stupid man.  In fact, he is one of the best strategists Democrats have.  He is pointing to a trend that can be seen in the polling data and voting numbers. 

The so-called “female voter gap” that has had a negative impact on Republicans is being offset by a growing “male voter gap” that is negatively impacting on Democrats.  The dramatic increase in the GOP share of the Black and Hispanic vote is based largely on male voters.

In many ways, Carville’s statements of more of a warning than a criticism.  They were not a rejection of the Democratic Party as an institution.  He gives it as advice from a loyalist.  Not all may see it that way, however.  But there can be no disagreement that Carville has a way with words – one of those “tell it like it is” guys.  Whether he is viewed as an apostle, or an apostate of Democrat theology is in the eye of the beholder.

And to think, Carville said all this during Women’s History Month.  Has he no decency?  He could have waited until Men’s History Month – but then again, there isn’t one.   Maybe that is the point.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.

20 Comments

  1. Rick

    I could not stand to be married to a democrat/liberal woman, and sadly, I know that from experience. My life was a miserable living hell. All liberals are crazy in the brain, and you will never convince me that they are not. The reason this world in such a mess is because of crazy nutcase liberals. All of their ideas are stupid. Something is wrong with their brain. If they don’t like something, then they want that thing banned for everyone. If they think something is good, they want to force that thing on everyone. They think that they are smarter than anyone else, but that is the farthest thing from the truth, and that is what makes them so dangerous to themselves and everyone else on the planet too.

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    • Richard

      The democrats allow the skanks in the “squad “ to bully everyone else. Even Nancy Pelosi got picked on by AOC. And I’ve been around and worked with loud mouthed liberal women and it’s fun putting them in their places. And I’ve always won and eventually formed friendships with some of them. Just don’t let them get an upper hand.

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      • larry Horist

        Richard … A component of the leftwing feminist faction of the Democratic Party are the genuine man haters. They are the ones who blabber about the “toxic” male genes, male chauvinist pigs, old men in power, male dominated society etc., etc., etc. The media-popularized feminist political movement is a component of the left wing of Democratic Party — not as though there is a right wing. Personally, I love strong women. I have worked with them, for them, hired them and married them. But hardcore feminists are not strong women. They see themselves as victims. They are the snowflakes that need safe rooms and the protections of a paternalistic government. They claim desires as exceptional rights that are not constitutional rights at all — a common trait of the left.

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        • FRANK STETSON

          Can Horist name hos suspected man-haters? Or is he just tossing more red meat to his “masses.”

          Cuz I will take two manhunters over the whore from Atlanta Greene or the bitch Boebert from Colorado any day of the week.

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    • larry Horist

      Rick … You are not subtle. LOL But you are alluding to the nature of a very liberal authoritarian mind. “Scolding” does seem to be more of a feminine trait as any married man would confirm, but I think we see similar traits in leftwing men. Maybe that is just them getting in touch with the woman inside of them, as some suggest. Or why male to female transgenders are leftwing Democrats. I once tried to get in touch with the woman in me, but every time ai thought of sex, I got a headache. Yes, I am jesting a bit … but not too far from the truth.

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  2. Sher

    Starting to see why they want more sassy women in office, go against their “speak” and the name calling begins.

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    • FRANK STETSON

      Yeah Sher, Trump has taught us well.

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  3. Darren

    Nice article, but being that they are women and Liberal, and Democrat’s, you have to
    make sure they are ACTUALLY FEMALE!

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    • Tom

      Yes and Trump has the perfect way, just a little pet away!!! LOL Maybe Trump should have used this angle in his digital rape conviction that he was not a rapist, he was simply investigating to make sure E. Jean Carroll was actually a female and not a tranny Dem. LOL

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    • FRANK STETSON

      Because genetalia shows the real measure of a man, eh Darren. Pygmy pricks always talk like that.

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  4. Tom

    This article gets a Stop The Spin rating of STS-0. It is accurate and without noticeable spin as evidenced by the fact that I have listened to interviews of Carville, and this statement can be found at *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGZxP7MKws* . Carville is a Dem loose cannon, you never know what is going to come out of his mouth just like Trump. Carville loves driving home political points using humor as a way of getting it into your mind. But Carville is a brilliant strategist who has an innate ability to go beyond the simple numbers and get to the root cause reasons why the numbers exist. And he has many entertaining analogies such as “walking in on your grandmother naked”. That’s funny and very relational.

    On a personal note, I enjoin Rick’s comment about liberal females and feminism which has embroiled our nation for several decades now since about the 1960’s when bras were burned, and the 1970’s push for equal employment opportunities and pay. For many years I never dated American born and bred females of any political party and any left or right ideology because Feminism has as its goals tearing down men since about the 1990’s, before then it was more about women equal pay and treatment, same rights, etc.. Feminism has no favorite political party, it is in many ways the party of emasculation. As an independent, whether they were Dem or GOP females, whenever I disagreed with their position or asked them for the data (like I often do with Larry), or present counter data like I do with Larry, I would get a backlash of anger for daring to question them, I would be called a chauvinist, and many other ugly names similar to the way Larry spews at me when I disagree with him, and he attempts to demoralize my character and lowers himself to name calling – the most recent one being snowflake. So I do disagree with Larry when he intimates that he has difficulty getting in touch with his feminine side. He shows his feminism often to me, Frank, and many others. Perhaps I should start calling Larry, “Larrita”! LOL

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  5. FRANK STETSON

    OMgoodness, here’s comes 1950’s macho Horist offended by sassy women, sassy women be bad, sassy women be Democrat. Somehow, Greene, Lake, Boebert and the rest do not even his his radar……

    James Carville, oh my. I was just saying that Biden needs a James Carville. Not James himself, he’s just a good touchpoint, but a modern James Carville, a savvy, plain-speaking street fighter that divines public sentiment. Recently, I watched him segment voters to include the FE Segment including liberals and conservatives that will be very hard to move. It’s the everything’s fucked, so fuck everything segment. Spot on, gotta love James.

    I myself had a career of being outspoken spending more than my fair share in HR with complaints. Always started my teams explaining my open-door policy especially if someone upset, especially over something I said. Sometimes, upset folks choose the HR path instead. Usually, they left the team shortly thereafter —- being on plan and on budget does have it’s benefits. No one who came through the open door left. But I got a good talking to either there or in HR. I may be woke, but I am no snowflake.

    “Too preachy females.” “This latest statement is extraordinary because it flies directly into the face of the Democratic Party’s claim to being the party of women’s issues and rights.” Uh, put your Spock logic cap on Larry. Could you not have preachy female office holders and be strong on women’s issues at the same time? Impossible you conclude? Open your mind Horist, it is easily possible and if Carville says it, is probably accurate. Just like I am strong on women’s issues, but I am pretty blue at the same time, not just about genders, but basically everything.

    As a Clintonian Democrat, of course I see Carville as spot on. Perhaps if we had not gone so far, you putzes would not be so extreme. I tell my kids but to no avail. They want it fast; they want it now. On some things, like tearing down the statues, tearing down the legends and myths (but I still love ya, FDR), is good IMO. But I can never call anyone “they.” For fucks sake, it’s one person, not a crowd. If you keep fucking with me about it, I will call you IT.

    Same thing happened on PC. We liberals do the same thing all the time. And then we do it again. Perhaps that’s why I love a great conservative. Know any? Cuz it ain’t Trumper Horist anymore. Once you call out a judges family, you pretty much have lowered the bar all the way to ground. And you’ve sacrificed a lot of centrist talent under your RINO meets your Friday the 13th Templar eradication program.

    But I said the same thing —- we have some great women in office, but many of our female leaders, at the top, really can grate on you. Warren, Harris, and Walters — oh my. And the new crowd, the squad-ers, don’t get me started. At least Pelosi kept them on leashes.

    But we do have some greats who are not this. Katie Porter, oh man, I love to watch her interview, would be one. Dingel, Jaypal, and a few of the newbies IMO are very good. Carville mentioned quite a few more in the op ed which does include the quote you mentioned but not any of his other conclusions nor the evidence to draw them from. Funny that you did not list any of that. Guess it didn’t spin the right way. That’s on you and you seem to roll your own without Carville’s support from the op ed at all. Dowd and Carville seem to be saying something very different than you. Not unexpected and thanks for pointing me to the Dowd piece, really supports Biden and explains much about the current situation. It’s good to read top-notch political pundits and political strategists for a change.

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    • Tom

      What and where is the Dowd piece Frank? What was it about?

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  6. Frank stetson

    Op ed; ny times, maureen dowd carville interview that Larrita scans, skims, and spins. Carville indeed said that, Larrita is accurate and even pretty much in context, but Carville said a lot more including his Biden support and his picks for Democrats. The piece did not follow Larrita’s spin but Larrita’s spin of it would not flip your meter except for things left out. not things twisted.

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    • larry Horist

      Frank Stetson …. Good God!!!! Can you become more childish in your irrational attempts at senseless insults?? Your obsession is making you nuttier than ever. I know you believe that your constant insults get under my skin. Sorry Frank … not even close. Since you have virtually no audience for your writing, I can only assume that you operate on some level of delusional self satisfaction — some sort of psychological masturbation. So … if it make you feel good, enjoy.

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  7. AC

    In college during the late 1960’s my English Composition professor took points away when grading an essay that made broad generalizations and no proofs in support of the given. Mr Horist, your commentary essays loose grade points by the score on generalizing broad swaths of Americans into a certain political persuasion.
    Taking shots at Democrats en mass is easy,as doing written composition as you do it begins with animosity toward the Democrat Party that exists in your mind. And, since Democrat “theology/ dogma” is anathema to your own political philosophy, the Democrats altogether are bad for democracy, the nation going forward, and the root of whatever you judge is evil in government and society.
    Easy is what some say is a “no brainer” decision. Personally, I hear someone say a decision is a “no brainer” and I cringe. One must be all in on what is being decide and have no doubts whatever to qualify as a “no brainer”.
    In my experience something that requires little or no brain work is a reflex action. Normally, reflexive action is preceded by something that strikes the reflex vulnerable spot.
    Mr Horist. my years long time reading your essays on PBB have provided sufficient evidence in facts in writing that your brain is tuned to the singular notion that all things wrong with our country since the Democrat Party’s inception can be linked to Democrats being present.
    So, in your perception, Larry, you are sure that all Democrats alike are wrong headed and generally unintelligent on all matters pertinent to running American style democracy. In other words, your way, the right’s way, happens to be something.of a “no brainer” situation.
    All things considered is called context and objective context is foundational while making correct judgements before finally committing to some idea or to set something in motion.
    Your essays commit you to whatever you decide to comment about on a particular day. Given your propensity for thoughts that disparage all things you see the Democrats are guilty and liable for whatever you direct against them. You essays, in effect, bring out more of your projection rhetoric. In your side of things, opinions come easily being that it’s pure projection on others the vary sins you and your Republican brethren have, are now, and are planning to commit.
    How it works in your mind is reflexive, and therefore is a “no brainer”. Which, I see will not be understood by all readers. A persons brain, male or female alike, when unconstrained by the washing techniques employed by the right, conservative, Christian Nationalist, and conspiracy theorist negativity actively propagandize about.
    The country is in a mess. These words are a statement of complaint often heard in the public press, by commenters like you, Larry, and those generally associated with the politically right. Yet, the right has no remedy that will truly fix relations between we, the people. When the right has not, is not, and will not recognize those others of We, the people, that the right actively shuns and speaks with derision against.
    Larry, you project an image of one not prejudice bound as regards race, LGBTQ persons, birth gender, and even the liberally political minded. However, should a reader reply with any notion the contradicts your assumptions made in your essay, Republican conservatism doctrine you bow to, and your prediction toward dehumanizing abusive commentary that strikes at the reader’s personal intelligence and worth.
    Then, you and PBB permit written combat between those who reply. Why is that obvious reality witnessed in PBB public space found not to conform to your image created in the bio and from your self professed practices in family and friend community.
    You hold yourself up as one above those you lambast for their lacking whatever you think that maybe. Knowing the name of a black person, claiming friendship with individuals unlike yourself in political philosophy, or the unlikely instance, a Christian believer, or have an acquaintance who is gay or lesbian.
    You say you hold hatred for no one. But, you generalize all on the left, all liberals, all progressives, all women democrats, an all democrat men as nonpersons, uneducated, ignorant, and a blight on America. How is this opinion you have not your hatred for Democrats? These folks are fellow American citizens with the same rights you cherish, life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness. Which of these rights would you deny them for their choice of party and vote.
    You. me, Frank, Tom, and the reply sender are no better as individuals than any other American. We are all the same as equals. In this is a fair generalization upon which we all should find agreement. If not, those believing they are more deserving of some right or several rights are guilty of several sins. One sin, hypocrisy, is the cause and consequence of all sins against our fellow Americans.
    Larry, you are representative of what hypocrisy is and does in the act of covering up its reality.
    Truth is, all people are hypocrites to some extent. How we manage the lie we tell ourselves and force on others speaks of our honesty, integrity, and humility.
    Question is, who and when will people “man up” and live with the “them” in society with equality.
    Until we all agree and compromise, the nation will be a mess of warring mess of hypocrites.
    I don’t trust you will see my point, even if you read any portion of what I share. It not a “no brainer” point. Your return comment will provide proof in print evidence whether or not you possess good discernment, fair judgement, and a mind free of prejudice.
    I know you as a prideful man of 78 and I am a few years less but over 70 years. What you push in acrimony against another does not bully me, But imposing bullying behavior on others shows your weakness not strength or intelligence.
    Legacy is measured in how those who you see as the opposition remember you. As well as those who read your commentary and were not in agreement with you, what will we see as your legacy.

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    • Rick

      If you are 78 years old and still a democrat; Wow, just Wow. You can look at your Bernie Bro to see what you look like to others. It is a hard thing to understand how some make it past 50 without seeing the error of the democrats.

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    • Rick

      AC, I want to apologize for what I wrote. I am truly sickened by what is happening to our country and both parties are to blame. My child and grandchildren will not have the freedoms I have enjoyed and It all seems pretty much like it is all happening on purpose. This country is being brought down intentionally by Teem Satan. It has to happen.

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  8. larry Horist

    AC … I can never understand what motivates you and a couple others to write such long ponderous comments — peppered with ad hominin attacks on me and PBP. I honestly do not understand how you can dedicate so much of your time on such negative grousing. Your mendacious attacks have no impact on me or my life — especially since you attribute qualities to me that are not based on reality. Just your opinion based on ignorance and animosity. I can only assume that you get some self satisfaction based on a delusionary sense of relevancy and importance. As I told Frank, I see it as some sort of intellectual masturbation since the only possible outcome or impact is to make you feel good personally. And that is okay. I respect you right to speak your mind — even when wrong. So … enjoy.

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  9. AC

    Rick, I am in my 70’s but not 78 (that’s more Larry} and I have never been a democrat. You have to be yet another clueless republican. All the self-identifying arrogant right words are there as proof, and it is not pretty. Not knowing but speaking out anyway seems all the rage and explains why our country is in this ignorant mess that handicaps our progress going forward.

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