Facts about the insurrection Act
Democrats, the political left and much of the media (but I repeat myself) have proffered a grand narrative that the Election of President Trump to a second term will be the collapse of the America Republic and the commencement of a prolonged Trump dictatorship. They reinforce that narrative with a number of anti-Democratic actions Trump will take. Their hypothetical litany of authoritarian acts has no foundation in fact. Rather it is a compilation of imaginative speculations – many of which are too ridiculous to take seriously.
Among the litany is their prediction that Trump will use the Insurrection Act to send the federal military to quell those iconic urban riots and political violence that too often appear in the nation’s major cities.
Using the armed services to deal with domestic violence sounds scary. Perhaps not so much if one reviews the use of the Insurrection Act in the past – and the use of federal troops.
The first President, George Washington, was the first to send federal troops to deal with domestic unrest. He sent soldiers to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion by Pennsylvania farmers in 1794.
In 1799, President John Adams invoked the Act in anticipation of a war with France. The war never happened.
President Jefferson used the Insurrection Act to foil a plot by his former Vice President Aaron Burr to raise an army and establish an independent territory in the southwest.
President Lincoln used the Insurrection Act at the onset of the Civil War. Well duh! That was a real insurrection.
In more modern times, several Presidents invoked the Insurrection Act to restore order or to defend constitutional rights.
President Kennedy invoked the Act twice – in 1962 and 1963 to Mississippi and Alabama respectively to enforce civil rights laws.
In 1957, President Eisenhower used the Insurrection Act to send federal troops to Little Rock, Arkansas to protect nine black children entering an all-white high school for the first time. The event was surrounded by threats of violence and acts of violence.
In 1967, President Johnson used the Insurrection Act to send federal troops to Detroit, Michigan to restore order in a riot that had taken 43 lives and injured thousands. He also deployed 13,000 soldiers in Washington, D.C. and 5,000 in Chicago to quell riots following the assassination of Martin Luther King.
In 1992, President George H. W. Bush invoked the Act to send federal troops into Los Angeles to quell the rioting following the beating of Rodney King by four police officers.
In and of itself, the Insurrection Act is not despotic. One can speculate without evidence how and when Trump might invoke it but to imply or suggest that his statement about using the Insurrection Act to quell domestic disruption or enforce federal laws is some unique and dangerous authoritarian act is simply not the case.
So, there ‘tis.
Biden has committed insurrection by refusing to secure our borders. Also he betrayed his oath of office by refusing to uphold the Constitution. To sum it up he belongs in prison along with his piece of shit son. And hell yes he was part of Hunter”s crooked schemes. But Frank, like a good little communist will yell prove it. The democrats are all about what their crowd can get away with. It’s been going on for years and got worse since Hillary came along. They already have enough evidence to make a case. So shut up Frank and stay out of the way.
Horist diligit Frank
Gilbertson amat Horist
Lucas accipit illud asinum.
Uxor est $5 meretrix
I’m still talking and in the way.
Prove it!
Elephant talk, elephant talk.
Discussion. debate, dialog, duolog, diatribe, desention, declamation, double-talk, double-talk.
Talk, talk,, talk that trash
King crimson
It’s already proven. And you hope not. It’s time to thin the herd
Idle threats.
Bowie’s QUEEN BITCH fits Trump to a T.
“If she says she can do it
Then she can do it, she don’t make false claims
But she’s a queen and such a queen
Such a laughter is sucked in their brains”
He does not make false claims. He tells you what he wants to do. Maybe he fails, but he tries. Remember shooting someone on fifth and it’s OK. One word: Babbit.
He says there will be retribution. He says there will be revenge. He took out everything Obama just because of a roasting at the Correspondents Dinner in 2016. I mean you can hate Obama with your entire soul, but deleting every single thing? Not one thing OK? He missed on ObamaCare, but think about it —- he tried his best to kill it without even having a scintilla of an alternative plan. You say I am wrong? It’s been seven years and Republicans, including the Drumpf got nothing yet.
The only question is where does it stop? Often, when you set up this machinery, the organization and people do everything they can to expand and grow. I am sorry to say, but can you say HITLER. And if THEY figure out how to steal our stuff in the process, we will be off to the races big time.
A lot of you are voting for 2016. And 2016-2020. But IMO, what you will get is Trump 1.6.2021. Hateful old man hell bent on revenge. Not the patriot you dream of. And on top of that, he will begin to buy you off with massive debt and giveaways, just like the last time.
I am not in love with Biden’s handling of the budget, but at least he’s got the debt/gdp ratio heading in the right direction two out of three years so far. Trump will reverse that overnight having handed Biden our WORST results ever as we entered unknown debt waters under Drumpf’s reign. Biden is not doing enough. Trump has always done poorly.
You got some good points Frank.
1) As an Independent/Unaffiliated voter, I do believe that Trump speaks whatever is on his mind at the moment. And I firmly believe that whatever is on his mind he will at least attempt to act upon. My biggest fear is exactly as you said: Right sees 2016-2020 when they vote for Trump but what I see is a post 2021 unrestricted power Trump that will feel justified by election to do whatever he feels is necessary because in his puny little mind he will believe the people voted him office to do just what he thinks is right.
2) Trump will sink us further in debt most likely. However, he will not be running again so no need to buy votes. He may placate the extreme right and conservatives by cutting spending. This could harm social programs that many depend on, including social security, Medicare/Medicaid, SNAP, etc. So I think the jury is out on Trump spending more, he may fool us there.
3) I really do not think about the Insurrection Act because I do not plan on being part of an insurrection. But, I am in favor of federal troops quelling disturbances and property damaging riots. I am not sure why Trump did not use the Insurrection Act in the summer of 2020 with the Floyd riots. Maybe the governors and mayors (if I remember correctly) had to ask the president for troops and they did not. I just do not remember it well enough. But I am in favor of federal troops keeping the peace and preventing property damage.
4) Love Bowie but do not remember the Bitch song so I reviewed it. This verse fits Trump the best:
Now she’s leading him on
And she’ll lay him right down
Yes, she’s leading him on
And she’ll lay him right down
But it could have been me
Yes, it could have been me
Why didn’t I say? Why didn’t I say?
No, no, no
Loved the costume in this video! See *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuDJue0r2G8* Loved the boots!
Democratic mayors and Governors would rather let their cities burn to the ground than get Federal help from a Trump white house.
Left can scream Insurrection Act all they want, as an Independent/Unaffiliated voter it does not bother me. The whole bit about federal troops not entering US cities dates back to the day of Roman Emperors anyway, when the Emperor was scared an aggressive legion might kill him and seize power. I think Left tends to benefit from such turmoil, so they are warning that Trump may take measures to stop the turmoil they generate. In 1974, a Russian defector outlined (and you can find his lecture on youtube) the Russian plan on how to take over a country from within. Step one of four is to cause malcontent, and high levels of dissatisfaction and erode confidence in the political, educational, and financial systems.. Step 2 is to create chaos and insurrection. We saw steps one and two in Minnesota in 2020, and it spread nationally to other large cities. But it never got fully to step three which is to suggest a radical change for the better. We saw this in “defund the police” but that never really caught on nationally as they wished it to. Step four is to take over the institutions and announce a new government which thankfully in our case did not happen – but we saw a shade of it on 1.6.2021.
As I told Frank, I really do not think about the Insurrection Act because I do not plan on being part of an insurrection. But, I am in favor of federal troops quelling disturbances and property damaging riots. I am not sure why Trump did not use the Insurrection Act in the summer of 2020 with the Floyd riots. Maybe the governors and mayors (if I remember correctly) had to ask the president for troops and they did not. I just do not remember it well enough. But I am in favor of federal troops keeping the peace and preventing property damage when necessary – but there should be firm criteria to involve such measures!
For those interested in “Ideological Subversion” and what the left tried to do by using George Floyd, please take this video seriously from a trained expert in propaganda and disinformation, and accomplish subversion-ist in the subject whom defected from Russia and has warned both Canada and USA. See this interesting lecture at *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw* And heed his warning.
Joe, I know you don’t pay much attention to the news, but the idea of trump using the insurrection act was not something dreamed up by the dems. Rather, it is based on words that came out of trumps orifice, or perhaps you don’t read the WSJ (Nov 14, 2023). Yet another piece of garbage written in a futile attempt to denigrate the dems on the windbag post….
I think you totally missed my point Mike f. Yes I do pay attention to the news.
Mike f, let me be a little clearer for you. As an Independent/unaffiliated voter, I do not care who said it first, it really does not matter to me. If Dems say it first or say it now that’s great! I hope they are correct that Trump (if elected) would stop property damaging riots and arrest BLM, Antifa, Communist aggregators. And if Trump said it first, that great! I hope he sticks to his word. So you see, I win either way because I am more concerned about what social unrest does to the stock market! Peace, tranquility, and being able to predict behavior all play into the markets doing well. Market hates turmoil, and so I hate turmoil too!
Do you understand my position now?
Tom-Sorry if my reply was misconstrued as being aimed at you-it was a reply to Joe/Larry. I find it somewhat interesting that when I wrote my response yesterday the author was joe gilbertson-today Larry horist is taking credit for this tome. Can’t trust these conservatives to actually be themselves (doubt me-look no further than Larry/Joe’s home state of florida and the upstanding republican chair and his wife-head of the book banners and their three way tryst with their lesbian friend who claims rape? Can’t make this shit up…)
And I suppose you could trust Joe and ho.
Joe and ho (as you ignorantly refer to our President and his VP) are the ones who have brought the US back from the disaster that resulted from Covid, have kept unemployment low, brought inflation triggered by the global shutdown to a manageable level, achieved economic growth that trump could only dream of, and reassured our Allie’s that the US really does have their back (rather than the assortment of dictators that trump fawned over-and is still worshiping). So yes, I do trust joe-ignorant people trust the previous guy…
A time long ago and for some far away American were all fairly intelligent. Evan republicans had a modicum of discernment in most instances. Politics and public office elections were not among those instances. Republicanism was simple, easy, customary, and seemingly uncomplicated.
As a voting block, republicans follow in lock step old patterns. Where these old ways came from and who originally came up with the old habits still practices.
What happened back in 2014 through 2015. And culminating in the 2016 election fiasco.
Republicans cast aside their conservative side through caution to the four winds and gambled. The dice they tossed were loaded. They came up with double 1’s snake eyes. And, Trump has the temerity to complain about the 2020 election.
Suddenly, the right went liberal with Trump and denied doing so. Trump persisted in the usual way he did business, prevarication, bragging, and projecting sins on others with loaded insinuations.
Trump has not an honest bone in his entire oversized physiognomy. His legal problems bear witness to the degree of unfitness for office that is his political stink. But, the facts remain in place, the Republicans could put the devil himself on the ballot, they would vote for Satan.
In 2016 even Evangelical leadership made exceptions for Trump. The passed him off as a so called “baby Christian” and looked passed his flagrant vulgar character. Faith lies present a no issues. Even his past history being a liberal New York Democrat must not bother.
Isn’t that against conservative philosophy dogma? Therefore, supporting Trump with their vote, would fly in the face of all conservatives stand for. This situation the right has created for themselves has hypocrisy written all over it and pitifully fails the integrity test.
Parallels come to mind reminding of the tale known as The Emperors New Clothes.
If, by fluke or undemocratic happening, Trump assumes the top office our country will survive. His Executive Orders if he has the guts for walking that ground, will not affect others as he supposed. This is not saying another Trump Administration’s term will not set the country back 25 years and more. But, when the electorate by a majority votes for chaos and unbelievable arrogance, reveals that the GOP has no solid footing close to a platform.
Mr.Horist’s focus on all things Democrat gives off an aura of a liberal wanna be. As obsessive as Larry is looking over the fence, while ignoring the rot growing at his feet. He must see green pastures.
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