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Guess who’s coming to dinner – Trump style

Guess who’s coming to dinner – Trump style

First, a little history on controversial dinner guests before getting into those President Trump hosted at Mar-a-Lago.

The 1967 movie, “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner,” was a story about a young white girl bringing her new black boyfriend home for dinner with her ostensibly liberal parents – the mother more than the father, or course. 

The movie was produced at a time when intimate relationships between blacks and whites were not broadly accepted by EITHER SIDE of the racial divide. (I highlighted “either side” because those on the left tend to forget about or ignore black racism.) 

In real life, there was an early example of a White House invitation causing outrage among a bigoted segment of the public.  That was in 1901, when Republican President Teddy Roosevelt invited Booker T. Washington to dine with him at the White House—the first black to be so honored.  Washington was a prominent businessman and one of the finest minds of his day.

Southern Democrats were enraged.  The following excerpts are from my upcoming book on the history of race in America.  

“Alabama’s Democrat Governor William Oates, a former Confederate Colonel, set aside his occasional friendly association with Washington to say:

‘No respectable white man in Alabama of any political party would ask him to dinner nor go to dinner with him.’

Mississippi’s future Democrat governor James K. Vardaman said of Roosevelt’s dining with Washington:

‘President Roosevelt takes this nigger bastard into his home, introduces him to his family, and entertains him on terms of absolute social equality.’

Vardaman added:

The White House is ‘so saturated with the odor of the nigger that the rats have taken refuge in the stable.’

And:

‘I am just as much opposed to Booker T. Washington as a voter as I am to the cocoanut-headed, chocolate-colored typical little coon who blacks my shoes every morning. Neither is fit to perform the supreme function of citizenship.’

He referred to Roosevelt as ‘a little, mean, coon-flavored (sic) miscegenationist.’

Vardaman made no secret of his harsh white supremacist views.  They earned him the moniker ‘The Great White Chief.’ He once declared that: 

‘If it is necessary, every Negro in the state will be lynched; it will be done to maintain white supremacy.’”

And now we have former President Trump.

Among his more notable dinner guests since announcing his intention to seek the GOP presidential nomination in 20224, Trump invited the entertainment and cultural Renaissance man, Kanye West, to join him for dinner at Mar-a-Lago. – along with self-avowed white supremacist nutcase Nick Fuentes.  

To say they are an odd couple is an understatement.  A prominent black man and a white supremacist.  Unlike the Roosevelt/Booker dinner, the guests were not personifications of equality and inclusion.  West had recently made comments that were seen as anti-Semitic – and Fuentes’s claim to fame is based on anti-black racial issues … anti-Semitic … anti-gay … anti democracy.  (If you think I am exaggerating to judging Fuentes too harshly, check out his screeds online.)

The movie, Teddy Roosevelt’s dinner invitation, and Trump’s dining with West and Fuentes were all highly visible events that sent messages to the general public.  The movie and Roosevelt’s invitation were intended to advance the cause of equality, tolerance, and justice.  Whereas the Trump invitation struck the exposed nerve of division and discord.

I doubt that Trump is anti-Semitic or racist.  It is not how he judges people individually or collectively.  It is more likely that his public statements and symbolic events are designed to give him some perceived political advantage.  They are calculated.  Or … he is just incredibly tone-deaf on such issues.

What makes the visit so confounding is that there seems to be no pragmatic political advantage to be had.  It is a zero-gain event for Trump – and bad for the Republican brand.  Certainly, most Americans will not admire Trump’s choice in dinner guests – as most did admire Roosevelt’s invitation to Booker T. Washington. 

Teddy only angered the racist Democrats – who were gradually losing their power and influence.  The “Rough Rider” President was on the right side of the moral issue and of history.  Trump’s decision to dine with West and Fuentes was not on the right side of either.

Trump critics were quick to claim that it was a maneuver to solidify Trump’s position with anti-Semitic and racist individuals – another contribution to the Democrats’ mendacious narratives about Republican intolerance.  But there are not enough anti-Semites and racists in America to make the dinner date a shrewd political move. 

While Trump opened up an opportunity for a flood of criticism – including from Republicans — I would argue that there was no counterbalancing political gain.  It was a boneheaded move.

Trump has attempted to distance himself from the decision to entertain West and Fuentes, but that does not wash.  He implied that West just “dropped by” and brought Fuentes – who he did not know.  Uh-huh.  Anyone in Trump’s position knows damn well who they invited to dine.  In fact, one of the roles of Trump’s Secret Service detail is to vet anyone who comes in contact with Trump.

The only explanation that I can offer is that Trump likes to attract attention by creating controversy surrounding himself.  It is a part of his character that we have seen long before he entered political life.  

In my view, Trump and his administration have done a LOT of good things for America – despite the bleak picture the biased news media presents on a 24/7 basis.  Unfortunately, his personality and pugnacious style have trumped his more positive legacy.  He brings down public criticism on himself as if he welcomes it – and maybe he does. 

But it is not just about him.  Trump gives ammunition to the left to attack the entire Republican Party and the conservative movement.  The dinner with West and Fuentes is just another example – and unlikely to be the last.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.

24 Comments

  1. Joan Perkins

    Looks like we haven’t gone very far; there is good & bad in all cultures. The white man who took my life enjoyed making dirty remarks about the nurses under him if they wouldn’t sleep with him. (In my case, I was jusr too ugly & for some reason he hated me from the first meeting. My death came from my not falsifying my nurse records . He found out I was ON CALL at another place so turned me in to the board stating I was there & not at his place. Shows how smart he was; U only have to be reached by phone . Never did find out why he hated me; I blame it on education; I have a Master’s & CLNC; he has a 2 yr degee which he lost for awhile for drugs..

    • Sam

      What are you babbling about? Are you saying that you are dead?

      • Tom

        Sam, I think Joan is using the word “death” figuratively as in the elimination of something like democracy, or death of an era where an era is over. I read it as Joan’s reputation or collegiate relationship with a person was over, gone “as in a death”. It would be absurd to think she meant she is dead, and I am sure you are much smarter than what your comments indicate.

        • Sam

          Duh!!! Ok

  2. Frank stetson

    I am so glad Trump is in the rearview.

    • Larry kuhn

      Why? You’d just bitch about any other republican president and call them racist and homophobic and all the other cute names you liberals like to use to destroy people who don’t dance to your tune

    • Tom

      Actually, Trump IS the rear view!!!

  3. Tom

    Never has there been a more true statement about Trump than, “… Trump likes to attract attention by creating controversy surrounding himself. ” He did this in 2015 and duped much of the media into covering his every antic thinking it was funny and would get them higher ratings. Never did it occur to them that they were giving him free coverage and the chance to get his message out. CNN publicly stated this! I have met people in life that just cannot seem to function in a normal peaceful environment. Their preferred environment is chaos because chaos affords a person the ability to shape the narrative to suit themselves. Trump is one such person. The Trumps of the world, and there are many, thrive in chaotic environments. But I do believe this time he got caught at his own game because there simply are not enough conflicting facts, bazaar occurrences, and other unknown to sow confusion and doubt . And while Trump may not be believed to be a racist, just as in the case of FDR, when you court racists, own a club that has racist bylaws regarding membership, and you look the other way on racist policies in hopes of a greater good at the expense of the minority – well then, you are a racist – a “covert racist”.

    But the Kanye-Fuentes incident is not the first time for Trump. Does anyone remember the Chancellorsville incident where President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested against removing a confederate statue in Charlottesville, saying of the neo-Nazi white supremacist group that they included “some very fine people,” ? Racist, white supremacists are very fine people Mr. Trump??? Trump then later in the interview made an explicit comparison between Confederate generals and Founding Fathers such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Really Mr. Trump???

    And does anyone remember when Trump said he did not know a prominent KKK leader David Duke? NPR spoke with former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who supports Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, because Duke represents the way in which white supremacists attach themselves to Trump’s campaign. Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke is running for U.S. Senate and tells NPR that he believes he’ll be getting the votes of Donald Trump supporters. In 1991, Trump made statements about David Duke and how people voted for Duke because they were “angry in America”. So at least he knew of David Duke all the way back in 1991. Then in a 2015 interview Trump says the following:

    Heilemann: “Would you repudiate David Duke?”

    Trump: “Sure, I would do that, if it made you feel better. I don’t know anything about him. Somebody told me yesterday, whoever he is, he did endorse me. Actually I don’t think it was an endorsement. He said I was absolutely the best of all of the candidates.”

    Notice Trump says “if it would make you feel better”; Trump did not say, anything like, “Yes of course I repudiate Duke and anyone like him because I think his ideas are racist and disgusting!” And then Trump claims to “not know anything about him, yet he made statements supporting David Duke all the way back in 1991!!!

    See full interview at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/
    In their previous statements on the Holocaust, Trump and his surrogates have spread neo-Nazi talking points. In an earlier Holocaust Remembrance Day speech, the White House made no reference to Jews. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, claimed that Adolf Hitler had not gassed “his own people.” More than simply revealing Spicer’s ignorance, the comment reflects the Trump Administration’s view of minorities and who belongs in America. But there is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a “covert racist”.

    Regarding Trump on anti-Semitism “actionnetwork.org” writes: In their previous statements on the Holocaust, Trump and his surrogates have spread neo-Nazi talking points. In an earlier Holocaust Remembrance Day speech, the White House made no reference to Jews. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, claimed that Adolf Hitler had not gassed “his own people.” More than simply revealing Spicer’s ignorance, the comment reflects the Trump Administration’s view of minorities and who belongs in America. See full article at https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/tell-the-us-holocaust-museum-uninvite-trump-from-days-of-remembrance-ceremony

    Larry, I agree with the thrust of your blog which I perceive to be Trump enjoys controversy and that inviting West and Fuentes to dinner was a bad idea that Trump was fully informed on. I disagree with I believe based on Trumps actions dating all the way back to 1991 and forward. Never has there been a more true statement about Trump than, “… Trump likes to attract attention by creating controversy surrounding himself. ” He did this in 2015 and duped much of the media into covering his every antic thinking it was funny and would get them higher ratings. Never did it occur to them that they were giving him free coverage and the chance to get his message out. CNN publicly stated this! I have met people in life that just cannot seem to function in a normal peaceful environment. Their preferred environment is chaos because chaos affords a person the ability to shape the narrative to suit themselves. Trump is one such person. The Trumps of the world, and there are many, thrive in chaotic environments. But I do believe this time he got caught at his own game because there simply are not enough conflicting facts, bazaar occurrences, and other unknown to sow confusion and doubt . And while Trump may not be believed to be a racist, just as in the case of FDR, when you court racists, own a club that has racist bylaws regarding membership, and you look the other way on racist policies in hopes of a greater good at the expense of the minority – well then, you are a racist – a “covert racist”.

    But the Kanye-Fuentes incident is not the first time for Trump. Does anyone remember the Chancellorsville incident where President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested against removing a confederate statue in Charlottesville, saying of the neo-Nazi white supremacist group that they included “some very fine people,” ? Racist, white supremacists are very fine people Mr. Trump??? Trump then later in the interview made an explicit comparison between Confederate generals and Founding Fathers such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Really Mr. Trump???

    And does anyone remember when Trump said he did not know a prominent KKK leader David Duke? NPR spoke with former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who supports Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, because Duke represents the way in which white supremacists attach themselves to Trump’s campaign. Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke is running for U.S. Senate and tells NPR that he believes he’ll be getting the votes of Donald Trump supporters. In 1991, Trump made statements about David Duke and how people voted for Duke because they were “angry in America”. So at least he knew of David Duke all the way back in 1991. Then in a 2015 interview Trump says the following:

    Heilemann: “Would you repudiate David Duke?”

    Trump: “Sure, I would do that, if it made you feel better. I don’t know anything about him. Somebody told me yesterday, whoever he is, he did endorse me. Actually I don’t think it was an endorsement. He said I was absolutely the best of all of the candidates.”

    Notice Trump says “if it would make you feel better”; Trump did not say, anything like, “Yes of course I repudiate Duke and anyone like him because I think his ideas are racist and disgusting!” And then Trump claims to “not know anything about him, yet he made statements supporting David Duke all the way back in 1991!!!

    See full interview at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/
    In their previous statements on the Holocaust, Trump and his surrogates have spread neo-Nazi talking points. In an earlier Holocaust Remembrance Day speech, the White House made no reference to Jews. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, claimed that Adolf Hitler had not gassed “his own people.” More than simply revealing Spicer’s ignorance, the comment reflects the Trump Administration’s view of minorities and who belongs in America. But there is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a “covert racist”.

    Regarding Trump on anti-Semitism “actionnetwork.org” writes: In their previous statements on the Holocaust, Trump and his surrogates have spread neo-Nazi talking points. In an earlier Holocaust Remembrance Day speech, the White House made no reference to Jews. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, claimed that Adolf Hitler had not gassed “his own people.” More than simply revealing Spicer’s ignorance, the comment reflects the Trump Administration’s view of minorities and who belongs in America. See full article at https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/tell-the-us-holocaust-museum-uninvite-trump-from-days-of-remembrance-ceremony

    Larry, I agree with the thrust of your blog which I perceive to be Trump enjoys controversy and that inviting West and Fuentes to dinner was a bad idea that Trump was fully informed on. I disagree with your statement: “I doubt that Trump is anti-Semitic or racist. It is not how he judges people individually or collectively.” I believe I can say that based on Trumps statements dating all the way back to 1991 that there is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a closet or covert racist, and most likely an even more covert anti-Semite (I think he hides the anti-Semite more deeply because its bad for his business). You made a great distinction that I really like Larry in that Trump’s racist actions are not defined on the individual level like David Duke. His racism is more defined on the collective level in what he says, what he turns a blind eye too, and allows to exist – just like FDR.

  4. LMS

    So amazing how many idiots will turn on Trump at the drop of a hat. EVERY PERSON has the right to vote and whether you limited intellects like it or not you have to try to appeal to all. If I were Trump I would say to hell with the democrats and Republicans. I would not put up with the BS of democrats, RINOs AND the Republicans that still can’t seem to find their head from their butts! You’re fickle, you blame Trump for failed candidates when YOU the voters have the responsibility to get those candidates into their respective roles as well as individuals like Murdoch as an example or other backers putting the money behind those candidates. Trump can only do so much! Now, you idiots that aren’t backing Trump or bad mouthing him are doing the same BS the democrats do by imploding on each other. Well done! You still haven’t learned a thing how to fight the democrats!
    Either get it together republicans and stand behind Trump 100% or expect to lose any future elections. As for my family and myself, our thirty two votes we’ll give to Trump but you F this up we’ll gladly throw the votes away and not vote. We are tired of senile old man that can barely put his pants on, a walking mattress for a VP who has done absolutely nothing except cackle and say imbecile things and his puppeteers running the country into the ground. At least I know the country will be screwed.
    You Republicans, especially you weak ones and RINOs are wet dish rags and worthless like the democrats. You whine and moan when things go wrong when it’s your own fault and point fingers.

    The difference between Trump and anyone else, including DeSantis, is he DOES NOT put up with BS from you passive aggressive republicans or mentally unstable democrats and left!

    There has never been a stronger time in our country we need a polarizing individual like Trump who will tackle anything and anyone that challenges him! This country is out of control thanks to those that decided to go the other and again thank you for absolutely killing a strong economy just because you can’t handle Trump’s personality…..GET OVER IT AND GROW SOME!

    If you want this country back and you want the gutter trash of society put back in the hole where they belong then get it together and get Trump back into office! You hear that Murdoch, Pence, Murkowski, Collins, Kristol, and the rest of you wet dishrags that are always on the fence and trying to get in bed with the democrats. If you like them so much then switch parties and let real Republicans have the seat who WILL do their jobs!

    • Tom

      I am an Independent/Unaffiliated voter. Based on your comments, and I have read them fully, there is no doubt in my mind regarding your position which I think I can accurately state as, “Its Trump or the highway”. What you do not realize is that the Independent/Unaffiliated voting block is larger than the Trump Loyalist MAGA block. Trump cannot win without us. We stand for moderation, sensibility, working across the aisle, inclusion of all opinions to be used to generate policies that so “the greatest good for the greatest number of people”. You stand for division, polarization, and high levels of authoritarianism. And then you criticize those that wish to reflect and moderate their view based on reality and new experience. It is people who espouse your point of view and vocalize it that caused Trump to lose – we Independents are simply turned off by it. And we will be turned off by it in 2024. Good luck trying to get Trump elected in 2024 without us. I doubt that you will succeed.

  5. Tom

    Never has there been a more true statement about Trump than, “… Trump likes to attract attention by creating controversy surrounding himself. ” He did this in 2015 and duped much of the media into covering his every antic thinking it was funny and would get them higher ratings. Never did it occur to them that they were giving him free coverage and the chance to get his message out. CNN publicly stated this! I have met people in life that just cannot seem to function in a normal peaceful environment. Their preferred environment is chaos because chaos affords a person the ability to shape the narrative to suit themselves. Trump is one such person. The Trumps of the world, and there are many, thrive in chaotic environments. But I do believe this time he got caught at his own game because there simply are not enough conflicting facts, bazaar occurrences, and other unknown to sow confusion and doubt . And while Trump may not be believed to be a racist, just as in the case of FDR, when you court racists, own a club that has racist bylaws regarding membership, and you look the other way on racist policies in hopes of a greater good at the expense of the minority – well then, you are a racist – a “covert racist”.

    But the Kanye-Fuentes incident is not the first time for Trump. Does anyone remember the Chancellorsville incident where President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested against removing a confederate statue in Charlottesville, saying of the neo-Nazi white supremacist group that they included “some very fine people,” ? Racist, white supremacists are very fine people Mr. Trump??? Trump then later in the interview made an explicit comparison between Confederate generals and Founding Fathers such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Really Mr. Trump???

    And does anyone remember when Trump said he did not know a prominent KKK leader David Duke? NPR spoke with former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who supports Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, because Duke represents the way in which white supremacists attach themselves to Trump’s campaign. Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke is running for U.S. Senate and tells NPR that he believes he’ll be getting the votes of Donald Trump supporters. In 1991, Trump made statements about David Duke and how people voted for Duke because they were “angry in America”. So at least he knew of David Duke all the way back in 1991. Then in a 2015 interview Trump says the following:

    Heilemann: “Would you repudiate David Duke?”

    Trump: “Sure, I would do that, if it made you feel better. I don’t know anything about him. Somebody told me yesterday, whoever he is, he did endorse me. Actually, I don’t think it was an endorsement. He said I was absolutely the best of all of the candidates.”
    Notice Trump says “if it would make you feel better”; Trump did not say, anything like, “Yes of course I repudiate Duke and anyone like him because I think his ideas are racist and disgusting!” And then Trump claims to “not know anything about him, yet he made statements supporting David Duke all the way back in 1991!!!

    See full interview at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/
    Regarding Trump on anti-Semitism “actionnetwork.org” writes: In their previous statements on the Holocaust, Trump and his surrogates have spread neo-Nazi talking points. In an earlier Holocaust Remembrance Day speech, the White House made no reference to Jews. Sean Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, claimed that Adolf Hitler had not gassed “his own people.” More than simply revealing Spicer’s ignorance, the comment reflects the Trump Administration’s view of minorities and who belongs in America. But there is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a “covert racist”. See full article at “https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/tell-the-us-holocaust-museum-uninvite-trump-from-days-of-remembrance-ceremony”

    Larry, I agree with the thrust of your blog which I perceive to be Trump enjoys controversy and that inviting West and Fuentes to dinner was a bad idea that Trump was fully informed on. I disagree with your statement: “I doubt that Trump is anti-Semitic or racist. It is not how he judges people individually or collectively.” I believe I can say that based on Trumps statements dating all the way back to 1991 that there is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a closet or covert racist, and most likely an even more covert anti-Semite (I think he hides the anti-Semite more deeply because its bad for his business). You made a great distinction that I really like Larry, in that Trump’s racist and anti-Semite actions are not defined on the individual level like David Duke. His racism and anti-Semitic actions are more defined on the collective level in what he says, what he turns a blind eye too, and what he allows to exist – just like FDR.

    • Mack ewing

      I really wish you were more clear on racism and antisemitism from trump. I saw just the opposite. Trump just didn’t take shit from his opponents and our country was better off for it. But that ship has sailed. I will probably vote for someone else in our primary but if trump gets nominated he has my vote. But no matter what republican emerges as front runner the Marxist communist democrats will turn loose the attack dogs

      • Tom

        I appreciate your comment Mack. I thought I was clear. So to be clear, overt racism is like David Duke, espousing verbally. Covert racism does not make the flaming verbal comments of a David Duke. It is more hidden but comes out as what a person does not denounce, what a person allows to be said, what a person turns a blind eye to, and what a person will accept under the flag of “doing the greater good” while not looking at who got hurt – in this case, minority classes, and of course a persons associations says a lot. Same goes for anti-Semitism. I thought the best example I gave was when Trump responded “If it makes you feel better I will say it.”, when what he should have done is clearly and verbally denounce David Duke and his racist/white supremacist views – which he did not do. It shows that the Trump inner man agrees with David Duke. I hope this helps you understand how people can be racist/anti-Semetic without ever saying a single bad word about such minority classes. Larry pointed out this in a previous blog about FDR. FDR may never have openly said anything bad about black Americans, but when you examine his associations/ownership of a swanky upscale club that did not allow black Americans inside, look at exceptions carved out in his policies that damage black Americans, and most of his associations with Southern Democrats that were very racist and implementing his policies in a racist fashion while FDR turned a blind eye to it all – FDR may not have been an overt (obvious) racist but he most certainly was a covert racist. Look up Larry’s blog on the FDR New Deal. He will also be publishing a book on FDR’s contribution to “Racism in America”, buy it if you want to know more.

        • Miles collins

          I think we should move forward and try to elect a true conservative president who will show no racism hidden or otherwise. There’s no place for bigotry in America but unfortunately it exists. But I wish that people would quit assuming that republicans are a racist party. That’s a damned lie. Sure, racism exists among all groups, including democrats but we don’t have to embrace it. Like the democrats shouldn’t have kissed up to Robert Byrd for several years. And still do. He was their favorite klansman and there’s still roads and federal buildings named after him in West Virginia

          • Tom

            I agree Miles! We need quality candidates. That is why I am an Independent/Unaffiliated voter. I have no allegiance to either party and their rhetoric.

      • Bibfy

        Who let the dogs out? Trump! Trump!

        Marxist communist democrats: now there’s a mouthful.

        Of shit.

        Our little brown-eyed mack.

        • Larry kuhn

          Go ahead and be a communist if you choose to. Your stupidity is showing But you people will never govern me.

          • Bibfy

            “You people” it never gets old.

            We already governed you. Starting in 2021.

  6. Darren

    We are in a game of chess & business with the rest of the world. Who do you want to move our game pieces?
    Who is a better front man. Who can throw a better bluff if you were playing poker with him ( Regan ). Make no
    mistake, the correct balance of the world has been thrown off because the wrong individual was put into the oval office.

    Not wrong because I did not vote for him, wrong because the majority of people did not vote for him. Wrong because the media suppressed information about Biden to THE PEOPLE VOTING. The crap we have going on in this country is a direct correlation to the events that took place two years ago.

    If this were to take place in any other less civil country, the govt would be over thrown.

    President Trump, and make no mistake, he is the only president in my life time that actually cared about the good of ALL AMERICANS.
    The Bushes , Obamas, Clintons did not give a crap about you if you are reading this or me. It did not mater what they told us. It was said to be elected, they ALL had their own agendas.

    Think twice about putting Trump in the rear view mirror.

    • Larry kuhn

      Buddy you commies will never govern me. Or people like me. Come on and try it. This ain’t Canada

  7. Frank stetson

    Trump borrowed our way to indebted prosperity and now that the bill gas come due, he’s gone.

    Worse gdp growth ever
    Highest deficit ever
    Added more to debt than anyone.
    Recession about 12 months after we threw him out

    • Sam

      Frank doesn’t know that people go to hell for lying, same as stealing.

      • Frank stetson

        I’m going to hell in a handbasket, but at least I am enjoying the ride

        The only lie in that is what you believe. Every statement there is spot on. Jfgi.

  8. AC

    Larry,
    So much for your opinion that Trump to be relegated to review status and fading. Apparently not so much in your mind, while this space yet finds Trump’s antics worth of time and effort expended in writing commentary.
    That Trump is still seen as the Republican Party’s leader by most republicans, democrats, and independents. Many in the voting ranks wish Trump would disappear and take his media nonsense with him. Which, does not look likely. The MAGA force is with him. Unfortunately, they are the squeaky wheels on the GOP bandwagon receiving a disproportionate amount of coverage oil.
    However, all the lubricants in the world will not stop their squeaking, just like the wheel squeaks before falling off. It’s broke and needs replacing.
    Trump has long been ignoring the mounting consequences from his actions’ impact on his Party and his viability as a candidate for nomination in 2024.
    In MAGA world he’s their man, for now. If he was to lose favor in that world. It would continue on with another. For, in Trump’s early days entering the national political eye and taking its stage platform, Trump was made the voice of the Republicans’ complaints. He, with out a clue or actual plan was turned into the face of the Right’s dreamed of making America into what, in their view, is great. Trump, an unknown quantity for most Republicans and Democrats alike, was someone who had always been a loose cannon on whatever deck he stood on. This became the case as he took the deck in American politics at the presidential level.
    And, what was to come and continues in the present, the popular minority created a political monster character who wrecked attempted carnage to the democratic processes in this country. Beginning at his inaugural, sustained through 4 years in office, and culminating with his great lie. If he is receives credit for policy advances or positive action with legislation, consider in whose eyes it is held.
    So, Trump’s bad character on full display, unabashedly self proclaimed most transparent President in history, bragged about needing no information intel for decisions or before making a call. Add to this his incompetent leadership and management skills. His natural genius claim sound hallow. His prolific mendacity monumental as to defy conception. How his admirers can see through the moral fog he produces and blatant flaunting of disdain for the law and justice shirked speaks of blindness. It is blindness people get from sensual over load from exposure greater than comprehended possible. The human mind’s capacity can not take in the extreme to which Trump had convinced them to believe.
    A large question people not taken in by and under the influence of Trumpian propaganda is. How is it those individuals previously seen as intelligent, highly educated, otherwise being discerning, high moral aptitude, and many identify as Christian, are the must staunch defenders of Trump? Do they have Trump’s fierce aversion to conceding some loss, failure, or wrongful disinformation? Are they hanging on tighter and longer from fear of tasting politics made personal crow.
    In my view, it’s fear of consequences from admitting to being conned in part. The over riding motivator is the Republican identity with its philosophy imbedded into a person’s soul. Republican, there is no being in it for a penny.
    The question defies republican thought processing. So inconceivable is thinking any other philosophy has merit. No consideration is possible nor listening to an other’s perception. But, this wall erected by adherents of philosophy held on the political right or left is inconceivable in my mind. What is behind those intractable minds of people is sad in my view. Then, worse is the instance seen in an individual creating an identity from a chosen political or human derived philosophy and making these ideas personal and natural.
    If one is of democrat or republican philosophy and doctrine made personal even more the one’s given name, then who is that person? For one, such an individual is eminently predictable as well as I forgiving toward others with questions perceived as challenges. Hostility emerges as by product as one stands ground.
    Trump is known for his never abiding others’ input not in agreement. His evaluation of people is always built on his judgment and his personal views. All not with him on all accounts he has no patience for. Of that number he shows his disregard in degrees, from cold shoulder to “You’re Fired” accompanied with mean punishment. media messaging or litigation.
    He, Trump, will never go quietly where he is in the rear view mirror and fading. It not in him, quiet, fading, or ending up behind. The one and only way is for a power of unchallenging authority imposes restraining measures on his person and his.ability for communication.
    Those avenues are under investigation at the moment. We shall see if he gets served the measure of just punishment deserved.
    What his supporters believe to the contrary, he owes society compensation. The amount owed is impossible for him. He conned more value from society in wasted time and resources than dollars. Dollars owed alone would bankrupt him into oblivion.