John Brown Gun Club: Organized Left-Wing Violence
The John Brown Gun Club (JBGC) is not your average weekend shooting club. Named after a violent abolitionist in the mid-19th century, it is a self-styled militia cloaked in radical leftist ideology. Its actions increasingly resemble those of a domestic terrorist organization. While the mainstream media prefers to focus on right-wing militias, the JBGC operates in plain sight, armed and unapologetic, often under the guise of “protecting protesters.” Protecting them from what, exactly? Apparently, from the horrors of free speech and conservative thought.
Let us begin with the most chilling example: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA. On September 10, 2025, Kirk was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University. The alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, reportedly inscribed the phrase “Hey fascist! Catch!” on a shell casing—a slogan that appeared days later on recruitment flyers from the John Brown Gun Club posted at Georgetown University. Coincidence? That would be quite the stretch, even for the most forgiving observer.
These flyers were not subtle. They declared the JBGC to be “the only political group that celebrates when Nazis die” — a grotesque euphemism for anyone right of center. The flyers included QR codes linking to a site that promised “real change” through action—not words. One flyer even featured a censored image of Charlie Kirk with the caption “Rest In Piss Charlie Kirk.” This is not political discourse or protective services. This is incitement.
Georgetown University, to its credit, removed the flyers and reported the incident to the FBI. But the damage was done. Students, particularly conservatives, felt threatened. Shae McInnis, a sophomore and College Republicans treasurer, described the flyers as “a direct threat” to anyone who does not subscribe to the prevailing leftist orthodoxy. One might ask: Where is the national outrage? Where are the editorials decrying political violence? Apparently, condemnation is reserved for the right.
The JBGC’s activities are not limited to campus provocations. On July 4, 2025, a dozen individuals attacked the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas—an ICE facility. According to a criminal complaint, the assailants fired 20 to 30 rounds from an AR-15-style rifle before the weapon jammed. This was not a protest. This was an armed assault on a federal facility. If this had been carried out by a right-wing group, MSNBC would have run wall-to-wall coverage for a week. Instead, the incident barely registered in left-wing media.
The Center for Counter Extremism has rightly labeled the JBGC a “far-left group.” Their members routinely show up armed at left-wing rallies, claiming to protect protesters from right-wing threats. In reality, they are there to intimidate, to escalate, and to normalize the presence of firearms in political discourse. One might say they are the Antifa of the gun world. Antifa relies mostly on fists, rocks, and Molotov cocktails.
And let us not forget the broader context. The JBGC is but one tentacle of a growing beast of left-wing violence. Attacks on ICE facilities have become a daily occurrence. Conservative speakers are shouted down, threatened, and in Kirk’s case, murdered. The left once prided itself on tolerance and dialogue. Now it celebrates slogans written on bullet casings.
If this is what “progressive” looks like, perhaps we ought to reconsider the definition of the word. The JBGC is not a fringe group. It is a symptom of a deeper rot—a culture that excuses violence when it comes from the “correct” side of the aisle. The silence from liberal institutions is deafening. The hypocrisy is blinding. And the danger is growing.
So yes, let us call the John Brown Gun Club what it is — a violent, left-wing terrorist organization masquerading as a community defense group. The sooner we stop pretending otherwise, the safer our campuses, our communities, and our country will be.
So, there ‘tis.
All this paramilitary stuff, enhanced by loose gun laws, tends to rachet up the gun violence as we legitimize gun use as our solution to more of our problems. As I say, more guns = more gun deaths. Period. Concealed carry, open carry (which I prefer), self-defense, and stand-your-ground laws and the like tends to put guns on the scene at more and more events with participants knowingly protected by laws allowing defensive use. Many see Kyle Rittenhouse as an example of a guy with a gun who literally put himself in a place to use it, defensively said the jury. The concept of “in fear for his life” can be a bit grey in many of these shootings. Not to mention all the inciting via dehumanizing rhetoric from both sides labeling each other as terrorists, vermin, human scum, fascists, commiecrats, magarats, NAZI’s, and worse. Our President tells us to” “stand back and stand by” instead of suggesting we” “STAND DOWN.” What do you expect? Milk and cookies? Now we have Rittenhouse’s on both sides of the aisle and many loonies in between, perhaps the Kirk killer being an example of that.
Meanwhile, you guys are sending armed militias into our cities to control the already-lowering crimes or to roust out the brown people for deportation putting masked men with military assault weapons on our streets, in our neighborhoods, even in our bedrooms. Never has the military been used so extensively domestically against our own citizens, against many who dream to be citizens. And if you get nabbed by our military, there’s a good chance you won ‘t see a courtroom but a third-world, death-camp prison instead. If you are lucky? The unlucky ones get a war zone where they don’t even speak the language or Guantanamo where we never hear what happens. Along the way, you could be held in a closed-down decrepit, mold filled, Louisiana condemned jail as LA cashes in on the new deportation market. Kids are being taken and separated from families again too, some ripped out of mother’s arms. And our military invasion is just like JBGC, Antifa, the Oath Keepers, or The Proud Boys. Our ICE-men cometh masked, unmarked, badge-less, warrant-less, invading our homes, apartment complexes, Home Depots, Hair Dressers, courtrooms, even chasing people down in the farm fields for picking strawberries. There are even hundreds of us doing this illegally as private citizens, some robbing and raping too. How can anyone tell the difference? What did you expect? No pushback? Come on man, what would you do when an unmarked, masked, guy breaks down your door with Biden in power? Bend over like Joe and say, “please sir, can I have some more?” In the past a number of you have told me that you would me this type of assault. Well, what did you expect?
Or try this: you love ICE tactics so much, you love the military doing police work effectively defunding the police, why not dress your kid up in a ICE suit for Halloween, see if he makes it home alive.
At the current time, there is no evidence that Tyler Robinson considered himself a member of JBGC. Sorry, Larry. Yes, he had writings that MIGHT be attached to a number of groups, etc., then again, Larry just printed them here too, is he a member? We just don’t know yet and Larry’s guess is just a guess. Investigation ongoing. As Larry says about Robinson, and I quote: “That would be quite the stretch, even for the most forgiving observer.” True dat for Mr. Horist using the JBGC sayings in his story too.
Likewise, the attack on ICE or ICE facilities attack by a group of assholes has not been attributed to JBGC that I can see except in Larry’s story. Even Elliot Ness wore a suit, did not hide his face with a mask, and had the legal paperwork to go after the mob.
Tis the problem of these decentralized, distributed organizations that it is hard to find them if they don’t self-announce. Tea Party was the same for a long time until they started to “come out.” Antifa is totally an idea without an organization. JBGC is similar, although being a 2A advocacy group, there are some known branches. Not sure any leaders are known though.
Again, arrest all participating in violence and punish to full extent of the law. But if you expect us to give up support of the 2A, in every way, good luck with that. What would you do?
Maybe all those that you describe should have come here legally then there wouldn’t be need for ICE roundups.
Another thought: John Brown (the namesake) was a terrorist in his time.
Please educate me on where the loose gun laws are that ratchet up gun violence. The most gun violent places in the US are all Blue run cities with extremely restrictive gun laws. They are also the very same localities that do not punish criminals that commit crimes with guns.
Namer, you ask a good and fair question. Note that I have often noted that there are anomalies in this. And using gun death/100K people as the metric, the top states for gun deaths, as in most chance to die by gun per 100K people are, using 2022 WIKI source from CDC: Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Alabama, Missouri, Montana, Alaska, Arkansas, DC, South Carolina, Tennessee, Wyoming. DC is a city, but I left in to show the anomalies, plus your “cities be more dangerous” thought which is right as rain. Where you have more guns, loose gun laws, you have more gun deaths.
On the flip side, the lowest gun death rates per 100K people are: Rhode Island, Massachusetts Hawaii, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, California, Minnesota, and New Hampshire.
I think you can figure the Red and the Blue, and N. Mexico is purple.
Another anomaly is VT, Blue, Bernie country, loose gun laws, but middle of the road for rate of gun deaths. Tis the reason we need real analytical statistical quantitative assessments of what’s going on. Such studies are precluded by the CDC due to most excellent NRA lobbying efforts to shut down further and deeper study into a tool that is a major cause of death, number two I think, in the US of A. No one else has the money or talent to do these studies. So we count, we theorize, and then we use the anomalies to piss on each other and say “you’re wrong, look at Chicago, look at Vermont, look at South Dakota.”
Yea, NJ. We are densely populated, we have Newark and Trenton, and we win! Really tough gun laws. I have failed twice to make it through to get my next Glock. So onerous, so burdensome, but seems to have benefits.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_death_and_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state*
On your comment about cities being more gun prone, not necessarily true. Because a leading cause of gun death is suicide, rural areas can top cities when it comes to death by gun. I need to do more research, and I won’t, but here’s an interesting piece on the topic: *https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-highest-rates-of-gun-homicides-are-in-rural-counties/* The Center for American Progress leans left, hard left, but as I said, more research needed but there may be a point that cities not as prone to shooting as the country.
For example, an anecdote from this weekend as 8 people die from guns in Mississippi, mostly non-urban areas, during homecoming football games. We are more and more using guns to solve our problems and differences. This was Mississippi, not Chicago. The line between bad guys and good guys with guns is becoming more blurred as time goes by and the number of guns goes up. To some extent, it’s just a numbers game. Where you have more guns, you will have more gun deaths.
Hope that helps.
Namer, one last factoid that I left out is that cities with tough gun laws like Chicago, or state-wise, my NJ, are often surrounded by looser gun law areas where guns are exported to Chicago and New Jersey as islands behind the “dead line” of tough gun laws.
I think, have not proved, but think there is some credibility to the idea that when these islands exist, one effect is the good guys have less guns but there is no change to the bad guys getting guns. I tend to lean that way as well.
But, in NJ, for example, previous to 2025, 80% of our gun crimes were traced to out of state guns. For 2025 so far, 77%. If we could stop Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida from exporting guns, we could lower the NJ crimes with guns even more.
Namer … Good question, but in asking Frank Danger to education you, you are going to the wrong source. He specializes in indoctrination and partisan propaganda. He is like the drunk who uses the lamp post for support, not enlightenment,
To be specific, Frank is talking about all gun deaths – including accidents and suicides. The topic is crime and murders. That means crimes with or without guns in those Democrat cities. He is using the wrong statistics to fudge the issue.
Also, he is using a trick that propagandists use. Smaller populations will have higher percentages. Example: If you have 10 gun deaths in a town of 100, you have a 10 percent rate. If you have 1000 deaths in a city of one million, you have a .001 death rate.
Also, Frank fails to note that Democrats in some cities have changed felonies to civil infractions – reducing the crime RATE without reducing the actual crimes. And, of course, there is the lack of prosecution that reduce the crime rate.
Frank also uses a bogus argument – blaming gun murders in the major cities on the availability of out-of-state guns while ignoring the central problem – the police failure to track down illegal guns and their owners. And even if urban criminals operating with a more lenient state next door – selling guns to felons or middlemen is illegal. It is not as easy for a criminal from one state to cross a border and walk into a gun shop and walk out with a gun. Trafficking guns is sophisticated business and a problem, but criminals and convicted felons with guns is mostly a local policing problem. Making guns illegal does nothing to solve the problem since guns used in crimes are often illegal anyway.
And Frank only addresses guns … not the number of murders by other means and other crimes, such as rape, battery, car jackings, lootings, arson, etc.—or the deadly secondary effects of crime, such as overdoses. When a person dies of an overdose, driminals are behind it –but they are rarely identified, arrested so the death is not computed in the crime numbers.
The fact remains that Democrat-run cities are far more dangerous than other locations. Because Democrat as soft on crime and often deny it. As we have seen with Democrat governors and mayors declaring that assaults on police (a crime) … vandalism (a crime) … arson (a crime) … disrupting traffic (a crime) … are all elements of “peaceful demonstrating.”
Finally, Frank does not address the localization of crime. It is highest in those segregated minority communities because of longstanding institution racism.
The fact remains that crime in America is most prevalent in those segregated Democrat run cities … period.
Frank follows the same approach as the radical left –denial and looking at crime through biased rose-colored glasses and twisted statistics. Remember … figures do not lie, but liars do figure.
Well, just one more, really just a retort to Larry’s unhinged piece-o-crap he calls proof. Look at the math here and remember, Larry touts economics in his resume. BUSTED
Proof to Larry is all based on the fact that Larry says so and that’s that. Source: Larry. Facts: none, not even a single fucking number, much less statistic. BUSTED
To launch his rant, he idiotically states: “The topic is crime and murders. That means crimes with or without guns in those Democrat cities.” His topic is titled “John Brown Gun Club: Organized Left-Wing Violence.” I see no crime, no democratic cities. I do see GUNS. I see violence. I think suicide and even accidents are or can be violent.
My argument was plain and simple, of course only to those who can understand plain and simple, like Namer. It was stated as: “All this paramilitary stuff, enhanced by loose gun laws, tends to rachet up the gun violence as we legitimize gun use as our solution to more of our problems. As I say, more guns = more gun deaths. Period.” Gee, “loose gun laws,” “rachetted up gun violence,” and “more guns = more gun deaths.” I dunno, seems pretty much up front and simple to me.
But to Larry, he has to spin the topic, issue a bunch of stupid statements without a lick of support, and whine about the statistics that prove my point. MORE GUNS = MORE GUN DEATHS. Along the way he lambasts Democratic cities again, says suicide don’t count, and there are accidents oh my. And then the amazing “Smaller populations will have higher percentages. Example: If you have 10 gun deaths in a town of 100, you have a 10 percent rate. If you have 1000 deaths in a city of one million, you have a .001 death rate,” his one claim to fame in the numerical world. He proves he can do math. He takes a population of 100 and then extrapolates what happens if the population is multiplied by 1,000 times. He then uses two different death numbers and comes up with two different death rates. BUSTED
That’s exactly what WIKI does to compute the death rates for all 50 states, each of which has a different total population and different number of total deaths. But by computing the death rates, you have apples to apples showing RED States have a higher rate of gun death than BLUE states, my conclusion. In Larry’s case, the 1M place has a rate of .1% or 100 times the 100 person place. Just like Mississippi has a higher gun death rate than NJ. He’s adjusted the number of deaths by a different ratio than the population ratios and math magic, he get’s a different rate. And yes, NJ may have more gun deaths, we have a lot more people than Mississippi, like three times. But we don’t. Because LARRY LIES.
Hey, here’s some fun: 2022 deaths by gun in Mississippi: 848. And NJ: 468. See how death rate works? Levels the fucking playing field for an apples to apples comparison. And Larry: bite me, you pugnacious prick of a lying sack of shit. Your entire retort is an off base total lie made by a lifelong political hack described as the acrimonious little kid who picks a fight and then blames the other guy.
Thank you, good night, and up against the wall you redeck Republican motherfucker. Good bye, really, this time.
Please, don’t reply, you might hurt yourself :>)
Namer … Now you see how unhinged and ugly Frank Danger gets when he is exposed or simply challenged. LOL. I do not waste much time responding to him since he is uneducable — and I trust that most intelligent readers can see through his crap. He claims to be the paragon of truth, but spreads biased propaganda bs. He claims to believe in civil dialogue and they goes off on these childish name-calling rants, (read his repones to me below) ‘As another point, Frank Danger focuses on state statistics even though it is the Democrat -run large municipalities that manage police and crime. For example: He uses his own home state as an example of a STATE with a lower crime rates than some red states, But if you look at Newark and Trenton, you discover that they rank above the nation average Measured on a scale from 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime), Trenton is at 61.6 and Newark is 52.0. The national average is 22.7. These scores reflect rates of murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Both cities are significantly above the national average. It is these largely segregated CITIES controlled by longstanding Democrat machines that have the pernicious and extremely high crime rates and violent riots. State police, prosecutors and courts rarely operate in major cities. The responsibility for high crime rates rests with the folks in city hall. It is on their watch and their policies. That is a fact that Frank Danger will not or cannot embrace.
Dunger we need looser gun laws.
Just when I thought I was out, this dumb shit Horist’s ass just keeps begging for more. Sigh. “Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more.”
Namer … you see how unhinged and ugly Horist’s ass gets when he is exposed or simply challenged. I will waste a little more time responding to this pitiful pugnacious prick who keeps picking fights, blames the other guy for starting it, and surely can’t take a hint. Note the man’s zeal to win, win, win, and even kick the dog when it’s down. Tis the same man who was totally bitch-slapped by Spanky the Clown and sees it as a positive. Me too, can always use a laugh.
I trust that most intelligent readers can see through his partisan unpatriotic crap. He claims to be a paragon of truth, but spreads biased propaganda bs claptrap elephant talk. He claims to believe in civil dialogue and then goes oft on his childish name-calling rants, (read his repones (sic) to me below). What a douche bag. He claims to be a righteous, law and order, free speech extremist, the righteous-law and order guy who voted for a tax cheating, Felon King, pussy grabbing rapist who limits free speech whenever he can including shooting a pastor in the head for openly praying in protest of his policies. Yeah, a pepper ball to the face does seem to curtail freedom of speech and religion in one swell foop.
Horist is a stupid ass who can’t even add 1 plus 1. I provided state statistics on gun deaths and was pretty clear about it. Everyone except Larry got it. He seemed lost, demented, and delusional. He quibbled all sorts of bs like “fails to note that Democrats in some cities have changed felonies to civil infractions – reducing the crime RATE.” Idiot can’t remember I was providing state statistics on gun deaths, not all crimes. He oft changes the subject like that. In another stroke of sublime stupidity, does he really think you will believe him that Democrats decriminalized gun deaths? Is murder no longer a felony? As in “he’s not dead, he’s just not breathing.” He did try to erase covid deaths to prove Trump’s tragic covid response did not kill hundreds of thousands unnecessarily, to make the USA 222 out of just 230 countries, but I digress. Here, Larry proposes a nonsensical, ludicrous, imaginary math example about how smaller numbers are not apples-to-apples for comparison with larger numbers using ratios, his being the stupidest example only a complete dolt would believe. Larry’s experience in economics is to suggest the method used by every economist and statistician out there to make sense of things is wrong. Ratios. Does this idiot know the concept of “per capita?” It’s a ratio to allow apples-to-apples comparisons between differing populations. But not to Larry, he says ratios spin things and quotes figures, truth, liars figure, homespun clap trap. I guess per capita is a dirty word to Horist, supposed master of economics. Isn’t he an expert economist? His response to me calling him a liar on his mathematical fractured fairytales: CRICKETS. He does not even attempt a defense of his stupidity. He just moves on: BUSTED.
NOW, he says I “focuses on state statistics even though it is the Democrat-run large municipalities that manage police and crime.” What does that moronic statement even mean? Again, I was clear: MORE GUNS = MORE GUN DEATHS. Larry cannot grasp a simple concept that any simpleton can grasp. And yes, I used states to prove my point, which I did handily. Instead of arguing the point, this moron, after the CRICKETS, spins his web of deceit to talk “crime rates” even as I was talking GUN DEATHS. Larry, gun death rates and crimes rates are apples and grapefruits. Anyone knows that. Except you. Perhaps your age? He actually does even not talk crime rates, but only violent crime rates, and perhaps not even all violent crimes, maybe just a portion of them, not sure. No source, no methodology, no complete definitions, and all that. Again, it’s the old “Larry says so, therefore it IS so.” BUSTED
His tyrannical tirade then launches into crime rates for Trenton and Newark with his definition being violent crime. He uses some fucked-up, made-up rating system of 1-100 where 1 is low crime and 100 is high crime and he belched out some make-believed unsourced numbers for Newark and Trenton. Where is the source. Who the fuck uses a 1-100 rating system for crime? The police? FBI? Larry’s favorite biased right-wing 529? He claims his 1-100 “rating” is based on real numbers for “murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault” which is actually only violent crime, not all crime as Horist states. Where is the source. There is no source. It must be Larry’s numbers. Larry’s the source. Believe Larry even if he is off topic. What a grapefruit. My bet is he will not provide the source because his readers will laugh their heads off when they see what wool he tried to pull. Worse that his “little numbers have bigger percentages” theory. Horist further states: “State police, prosecutors and courts rarely operate in major cities.” What a delusional fucked-up lie of a statement without a source or a shred of evidence. What is he even talking about: his delusions? As I said: “Proof to Larry is all based on the fact that Larry says so and that’s that. Source: Larry. Facts: none, not even a single fucking number, much less statistics. BUSTED” FYI: a rating from 1-100 is not a statistic. It probably means a third-party review of government statistics with an overarching methodology and data set definition which, knowing Larry, is some right-wing biased 529 with another agenda that the author is enamored with.
He’s a spinner, he’s a liar, his figures are imaginary, he’s ugly, and if he does not respond in yet another gas bag gem from his asshole, good bye to all. What a jerk. A real dick. Like I said, no discussions here, why stay? Nothing for me anymore. You win, I agree, Trump is the best you say. It’s the best economy in the most peaceful of worlds with new factories and jobs springing up all over the place using all those new resources we extract from our parks and coastlines. Temperatures up, heating bills are down, Trump is doing everything right round here. Larry is his prophet. I lose, ya beat me, you win, I’m vermin, human scum, hater, you proved it. Trump the peacemaker is the best. You are right. I was wrong but now see the light and could vote for Trump in 2028. Thank you and good luck in all that you do. Congratulations. Larry, you win, I lose, I am vanquished, you are on top in your own little world. Good luck with the book sales, sorry your price is now OVER 70% OFF in the toilet and there are zero Amazon reviews. You win again as one of your bios states: “Larry Horist is a civic and political activist with extensive professional and personal experience with racial issues in segregated urban communities. His family includes a Black daughter.” Oh my, selling your book based on your daughter’s skin color. Oh my. You win again. Any Green kids?
Looking at the ones pictured, I don’t think they are much of a threat. One guy looks a bit dangerous but he would be the easiest to put down if it came to that. Pretty well most of the others look like they are either gay or of child mollester qualities. Nope. Not too much threat there.
Here we go as Bill talks about his response that “he would be the easiest to put down if it came to that. Pretty well most of the others look like they are either gay or of child molester qualities. Nope. Not too much threat there.” Gee, think they are responding to Bill already, what did you expect. You call us “easy to put down,” gay, child molesters that are easy to put down. Seen it all feels this is all appropriate for a $250 misdemeanor, perhaps a little jail time, but doubtful, for jumping the border.
Guys, there’s a better and easier way to handle MOST of this, at least the $250 border jumping guys without other crimes, the vast preponderance of your scary monsters. We don’t need the horror, fear and loathing show made for TV. We just need E-verify, it’s both a Republican and Democrat idea and the law is in Congress, many times, waiting for a vote. Johnson runs the house, Thume the Senate, hello, anybody home? The main reason you are not getting your fucking asses shot off is that most of these folks are not criminals, beyond the misdemeanor. They are mostly Catholics, you got problems with that too?
I agree with Larry: Tea Party very soft, very peaceful. Didn’t even swear much on their protest signs. I looked, a lot, back around 2015, and was surprised how genteel the group is. Pretty amazing, but I scanned protests, websites, and nada. Those were the days, I guess. Not anymore, at least in Congress. These newer Republican asshats, and the left protestors should have learned the value of decorum, this new way has limited appeal. We are foolish to lose decorum and peaceful protests. Your reactions are not too swift either.
The left had a similar issue with Russiagate as yours with JBGC and especially antifa; much harder to find a criminal, crime, with no talking, no documentation, no real organization, and much, much, so much lying, on the record too. And hard to break that ice given the pile of Trump puppies meeting with Russians damn well knew they were getting pardoned. They didn’t care when caught on a lie since they knew the pardon was coming and a better job if they just stayed mum. Muller said as much. And you would love and call them patriots as you seem to love liars now.
Trump has marked antifa as a terrorist organization. Deranged? There is no antifa organization, it’s an idea. Sort of like calling democracy a terrorist organization. While Trump has not done that, he sure seems to act that way. A lot. Often. I mean what you do call it when you sick the military on your own cities and people?
We have always had militias, we have always had police, yet rarely, only in specific settings, have we called out the militia on segments of our citizenry. Usually with both the Federal Government and the affected States agreeing. Now, Trump just rolls his own against Blue States and Cities. He has sent the military to five major metro’s to either go after the undocumented, crimes, and protests against his actions. They are all blue areas, but the rhyme and reason seems multi-faceted or just plain or crazy. Crime is already down in DC, Portland is not burning, Chicago is not a war zone, LA was one block, one burning car, and Memphis —- well, yeah, you can have Memphis — it’s the gun happy South and a shooting gallery.
But the concept of armed civilians, not hired professionals, for protection is becoming more and more widespread. Not new, never has gone well, but now becoming familiar. Sort of like having The Hell’s Angels protect The Stones at Altamont, what could wrong with that? Oh children. Or having the military, trained to kill, destroy, end, not to protect and serve, invade our cities. When everyone has guns, the next logical step is for everyone to get bigger guns. When you come in warrantless, no masks, militarily armed, sooner or later, you can expect someone to return volley. It’s just a matter of time. What would you do when they come to your door? Cuz if you let them in, they may be armed citizens looking for a good time, not ICE.
For years, team Trump has used The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys for protection and security services. They showed us the way, normalized it, while blaming the left for being so scared. Roger Stone brought them in, I believe. Both of these militia groups operated a seditious conspiracy against our Federal Government storming Congress on 1/6/2021, they said, acting on behalf of Donald J. Trump to seize the election for him. It’s on the record, I believe. Sure looked like privatized militias attacking our Capitol building while in session. What do you call that? Peaceful protest run amuck? These guys had planned this for some time, had practice the operation in half a dozen States in the preceding months.
And now, armed militias are turning up from both sides in protection of protestors, politicians, and others. What did you expect after 1/6/2021? What did you expect after you invade cities with masked, unmarked men repelling from Blackhawks, or arriving in a flock of rental panel vans after bedtime? Or Home Depot raids where even white people mistakenly get deported? Or Senators get tackled for asked a question, in a secured Federal building, clearly identified. Or tear gas being tossed for no reason on Chicago’s busy streets. What do you do when you live in that world? Do you expect better or worse after the Kirk assassination? What would our founders suggest?
Gee, Larry is scared of “not your average weekend shooting club” when it’s from the left claiming, without much foundation: “self-styled militia cloaked in radical leftist ideology. Its actions increasingly resemble those of a domestic terrorist organization. While the mainstream media prefers to focus on right-wing militias, the JBGC operates in plain sight, armed and unapologetic, often under the guise of “protecting protesters.” It’s a 2A support organization performing the EXACT same actions as Kyle Rittenhouse and all his buddies that summer.
But when 8 members of the Oath Keepers were “not your average weekend shooting club,” breached the Capitol, shat on it, pissed on it, and by the end of it all, the riot and seditious conspirators injured over 140 cops and ten dead in total after the events wound down. One by cop on that day, two by overdose that day, and two by stroke that day. Then Sicknick the next day, and 4 cops by suicide a few days later. One of The Proud Boys was SO guilty, got 18 years all pardoned by Trump as not your average weekend shooting club. You suggested it was part of a spontaneous riot. Your Felon King did not even see a riot. How blind are you?
They were joined by just another of your not your average weekend shooting clubs called The Proud Boys where 5 members got convicted for seditious conspiracy, one getting 22 years to be pardoned. That did not change your blind mind either.
Both groups provided Security Services at Trump Rallies and you can see them surrounding Roger Stone almost wherever he goes. Hey, it’s just another of the Stones, go figure. Yeah, just a weekend shooting club providing protection to Trump and friends, and storming the Capitol in a pure act of sedition: adjudicated, convicted, pardoned as patriots.
So tell my how the left is worse in all this? You just mistook us for snowflakes, I guess.
“You called down the thunder, now you’ve got it.”
What did you expect when you brought your paramilitary into the American “discussion.”
Dunger said it. He meant it. But stupidity can’t be fixed