Stormy weather at the Trump trial
One of the two long awaited witnesses at President Trump’s so-call hush money trial has finally taken to the stand. Stormy Daniels, the one-time porn performer did not disappoint – if you are the type who enjoys salacious content.
Daniels went on in great detail about her alleged sexual encounter with Trump. He said it never happened. She says she met him at a Lake Tahoe hotel – in a luxury room larger than her home. She described his Hugh Hefner-style pajamas and his boxer shorts – and that he calls her “Honeybunch.”
She offered even more details about their conversation. She asks about his wife – to which she claims he said that he and First Lady Melania do not “sleep in the same beds.” Daniels got even more salacious in describing for the court the “missionary position.”
There was only one thing wrong with her testimony. It and nothing … as in nada … to do with the case being tried. It had only one purpose. It was an attempt to demean and damage Trump personally – to get the jury to hate Trump as much as Daniels admitted on the stand that she hates Trump. It was to prejudice the jury.
It was the prosecution that not only put her on the stand, but then elicited the totally inappropriate testimony. It was so bad that Judge Juan Merchan admonished Daniels and the prosecution for bringing up those unrelated and off-limits issues. It brought both an objection from Trump’s defense team and a motion to declare a mistrial.
The motion was denied by Merchan, but he did agree to have that portion of Daniels testimony stricken from the record – and to instruct the jury to discount what she said. Of course, that is an impossible remedy. You cannot unring that bell by pretending that you did not hear it. The issue of a mistrial will be raised again during closing arguments – and does provide an opening for a potentially successful appeal of a guilty verdict.
Daniels motives were clear – and her tactics characteristically sleezy. But more importantly, is she a credible witness in terms of the real issues relating to the trial?
The Trump-hating media folks argue that she is. I am not so sure.
In describing the alleged encounter with Trump, Daniels’ story has again evolved. At some points she said she had a consensual sexual encounter with Trump. At other times she denied it. In testimony, she strongly implied that she was taken advantage of by a powerful man and that the event was displeasing and discomforting to her. She implied that she was a victim – not a willing participant. Was she now claiming sexual assault or rape?
This from a woman who has made a living by handing her body over to innumerable men for profit? She was not exactly dragged into the bushes against her will – if such an encounter really took place.
I suspect the defense team will note that she is an established liar … that she will do damn near anything for money … and that as a writer, performer, and media personality, essentially an experienced fictional storyteller.
In many ways, it is curious that the prosecution would have called her as a witness. She does not seem to be able to provide any direct evidence as to the purpose of the money … nor any testimony on that point that did not come from Michael Cohen.
This case is all about documents and what Trump knew or believed – and that all-important, but difficult issue, of “intent.” Judging from her testimony so far, it does not seem like she even knows what the case is about. Her mission was to sully up Trump. Mission accomplished.
Ironically, I tend to believe that Daniels and Trump did, indeed, have a sexual encounter. Not that I find her credible, but rather that I find Trump to be less credible. After all, the man is a known womanizer – on par with President Clinton. I cannot prove it one way or another (nor can anyone else) – but all that is irrelevant to the case before the jury.
I just think that Daniels was brought in by the prosecution for just one more pornographic performance.
So, there ‘tis.
FOOTNOTE: Was the frumpy look — seen in the photo atop this commentary — part of prosecutorial stage crafting? Just asking. And I am totally discounting reports that she appeared in court because she was told she might get to see a hung jury…
Her testimony has probably given Frank some whacking material
Horist says: “Ironically, I tend to believe that Daniels and Trump did, indeed, have a sexual encounter. Not that I find her credible, but rather that I find Trump to be less credible. After all, the man is a known womanizer – on par with President Clinton.” You have got to be kidding right? Like Bill had to pay for it like Trump…… Like Bill chased after young women who reminded him of his young wife, or daughter. Yeah, right.
Where did Bill pay $130,000 for sex, and then double that to pay off Cohen and not get him into tax trouble due to Trump’s attempt to hide it via funny bookkeeping? Where are they similar Horist?
On Par? Gee, I don’t remember Bill being liable for sexual abuse of a digital rape basis. Don was.
I don’t remember Bill getting them alone, slamming them against the wall pinning them, lifting their skits, pulling down their tights, reaching inside their panties to shove his fingers up her vagina penetrating her digitally. When did Bill do that?
And there was a handful of witnesses who confirmed Trump did same or similar to them. Same with Daniels, there was other testimony saying he does this shit. Bill did normal folk, interns sure, but Trump does porn stars, Playboy models, and rapes strangers when he can.
Excuse me Frank but Rapist Bill Clinton paid out $800000 dollars to Paula jones for sexual harassment. And yes, he indeed assaulted Kathleen willey and others. But I don’t care. That was then. This is now. It’s proven that democrats will shield their own. And take a break from posting about sex acts. You are probably getting too aroused To get a grip on yourself. And just know that Trump ain’t queer. You democrats wouldn’t care so much if his trysts were with guys. But he doesn’t swing like that and he’s aware that queer sex is sick.
You are correct, Bill paid for sex, basically. I stand corrected, I was wrong, should have looked it up. However, he did not pay hush money, there was no nda or gag order attached to the payment. He paid as a court settlement to have Jones drop the case. I stand corrected, both basically paid for sex, for different reasons.
For Trump, the prosecutor is attempting to prove he paid to hush her up so the public would not discover it just before the 2016 election. He did pay her to hush her up, he did have an election pending, he was politically damaged by the Access Hollywood tapes, so the prosecutor needs to prove payment was made for that reason.
For Clinton, Jones’s sexual suit was initially dismissed as lacking merit. There is no harm, said the court. Then Clinton’s impeachment and the Lewinsky debacle where he lied about that during the Jones suit, Jones appeals, Lewinsky comes to light and it works it’s way to the Supreme Court. Clinton SETTLES with no admission of guilt for the 850K. She gets 200K, the lawyers the rest.
The rest you have is rumor without merit in the courts. Do you want my rumor match for Don?
You ask me not to repeat Trump’s sex acts. Does that mean I cannot talk about his being spanked with a magazine? And why is it so important to you that Trump is not queer? You say it’s because Democrats don’t care about gay trysts.
So which is it: you have problems with my detailing heterosexual sex abuse or you just want to hear detail on gay trysts? I honestly don’t have experience with either, so I guess you are on first. You tell us about all your gay sex trysts. Seems you talk about gay stuff all the time. Or my daughter. Both gross IMO, but THAT’S WAMPLER for you folks. Frustrated, gay, and looking for love.
Frank I don’t care what president fucked whom. The problem with the charges being tried against Trump is that no crime was committed. And after several days of kangaroo court nobody is able to prove criminal activity. But what the hell? Nobody cared what Hillary did with the subpoenaed emails. But again, I don’t care. The fact that the cunt will never be president is enough karma. The only sexual assault allegations against Trump is hearsay. The one woman happened to win a defamation lawsuit because of a biased jury. But that’s not over yet. So buy yourself some stormy Daniels movies and see if you can switch hands and gain a stroke.
You’re wrong that no crime was committed. The affair wasn’t illegal. As with Nixon, it’s the coverup that got Trump in trouble. He used personal funds to pay her off – not illegal in itself, but it was a contribution to his campaign that was not reported. Covering up the affair defrauded voters, a crime in New York. And then he falsified his business records to cover up the payments. Since the contributions were illegal, the minor crime of falsifying business records becomes a felony. In NY, Trump could have also been charged with illegal acts to hide the affair from his wife, but they let him slide on that one.
If you’ve followed Trump’s trial at all, the evidence has been laid out in a very organized fashion and is overwhelming. In a couple of weeks, we’ll get to see if the presumed Republican candidate for President goes to jail or not. They’ve let him slide on gag order with minor slaps on the wrist, but if he’s found guilty, there won’t be that same leniancy – they’ll lead him off in handcuffs. Unfortunately, he won’t face his other criminal trails until after the election.
Joesph S. Bruder … You are entitled to your layman opinion. But the legal experts on television seem to have a different opinion than you. Even some on CNN and MSNBC express their doubts that the evidence ties directly to Trump. The only connection to Trump is the testimony of Cohen. It is he says against what Trump lawyers say. So, far no hard evidence to substantiate what Cohen claimed conversations with Trump. Cohen’s record of lies and perjury — and his extreme hatred for Trump may be enough to seed reasonable doubt in at least one juror. The physical evidence will not convict Trump. It all depends is they believe Cohen’s testimony or not. I think the odds are on conviction, but it is not a slam dunk.
Harold: glad to see you enlightened not to care who the President sleeps with. Unless it’s Clinton, right? But it’s not the sleeping that’s getting him in trouble, it’s the hush money payments in conspiracy to further another crime by hiding the truth from the American electorate right on top of the Access Hollywood tape “grab em by the pussy” release just before his 2016 electoral collage win in an election that Hillary won the popular vote. It was close and he was scared. Just like he will be too scared to take the stand. Just watch him pussy out on that one. His right to be a pussy, of course.
On the business documents, I believe Trump is unindicted co-conspirator number one in a case that sent Cohen to jail. He looks pretty guilty, on the evidence for that part. There’s a lot of documentation, he even paid Cohen twice so Cohen’s taxes would be covered which pretty much shows Trump was paying for more than just “legal services.” The paper trail shown in court is damning. As to the felony uplift for the business records fraud being done to further another crime, that is what the prosecutor is in court to prove. He seems well on his way to doing that, but juries are juries so time will tell and still presumed innocent until that is completed. We actually are not 100% sure of the crime he furthered since the prosecutor is still waiting to sew that one up. Probably election law for the 2016 by hiding the truth from the American people, but not 100% sure yet. I am pretty sure therefore, that your opinion is moot. There’s no way anyone can tell, yet.
As far as Hillary’s actions absolving Trump, I am pretty sure he’s not innocent because she is innocent. That’s your logic but does not pass a basic sniff test. One guy cannot be innocent, just because Hillary was not found guilty of any crime.
“The only sexual assault allegations against Trump is hearsay. The one woman happened to win a defamation lawsuit because of a biased jury. But that’s not over yet.” That’s a lie and you know it. He is liable for sexual abuse. PERIOD. The judge, on the record, denied his first request for mistrial, saying only NY Law requiring penis penetration, got him off the rape charges, because in common plain speak — he raped her by putting his fingers into her vagina for his own sexual gratification. That force, that’s penetration, that’s rape in the common sense of rape. Don’t you agree that if someone grabs a female, shoves her against the wall, pins her, lifts her skirt, pulls down her tights, reaches under her panties and sticks his fingers inside her, inside her vagina, that it’s RAPE? And the other witnesses testified he did it, or similar heinous acts, to them. TRUMP did not, could not, object.
He is appealing, will probably knock the money down a bit, but he will probably not overturn the case that found him liable. It only took jurors a few hours to decide his guilt.
So. Trump the rapist, Trump who defrauds his own charity, defrauds his students in his University, Trump who’s business is a criminal enterprise cheating on business records to get or re-characterize loans or favorable rates on loans — multiple felonies, —– is your President of Choice to represent you and the nation. Sweeeeeeet. You don’t care if he’s a rapist, a con man defrauding many, with a criminal business —- these are all results of court actions which you blithefully ignore as well. Well, deplorables of a feather…..
There you go again. Getting horny describing the rape allegations. If your dick was made of wood and your hand was sandpaper you wouldn’t have one left. Bush money ain’t illegal. I thought it was but not according to legal experts. And nobody cares who Clinton slept with. He’s old news. I sometimes wonder what I would do if I were to have to wake up beside Hillary. Uggggg!!!! That would be an erection killer. No pun intended. But Trump will probably be re-elected. Most people have made up their minds. Yes, I want Trump back in the White House because I agree with his type of government and I love the judges that he nominates. For example, if not for him our constitution would be in shambles by now. And he will support Israel and keep his nose out of their business.
Harold … Frank is why salacious crap plays in the news. He obsesses on it. He gets off (not sexually) on repeating terms like “digital rape” over and over. No matter the subject of the commentary, Frank most often runs his sex chat even when it is not remotely appropriate. You can sees his obsession with salacious material when you note that he virtually says nothing about Trump on the critical issues. Most of Frank’s writings are … attack Horist, talk trash and tell lies . That is unless he is using PBP to engage in a personal pen pal discussion with Tom over– occasionally bragging about his wealth and youthful adventures, with a healthy dose of malarky.
Once again the pugnacious prick, Mr. Horist,, taunts away with his rubber/glue screed personal attack while blaming me of “he virtually says nothing about Trump on the critical issues. Most of Frank’s writings are … attack Horist, talk trash and tell lies.” Of course he uses a broad brush of generalizations because he can’t prove SHIT with actual evidence. Just generalizations, innuendo, allegations, and ASSumpitions from the master spin doctor of Democratic hate.
He can’t stand the truth so he picks fights whining and crying about all the ills I put upon him, personally, with my fake obsession into his tired, old, life of frustration. His perceived enemies must lose for him to be a winner in his own mind.
Yes, Horist, I will rep out the court findings on Trump over and over as the occasion calls for it. Salacious? FUCK — it;s a fact, jack, get used to it, get over it, that’s your guy that you will vote for three times before you are done. He did it, you voted for it, whattsa matta, you no like what you see?
BUT WAIT —- there will be more.
” you note that he virtually says nothing about Trump on the critical issues. Most of Frank’s writings are … attack Horist, talk trash and tell lies” says Horist. He must live under a rock. Here’s a guy who can write an entire SCREED in rant form, all about the economy, and hardly drop a number, a statistic, and lordy be that he mention a source….. And he blames me of the same. Remember, he the same guy who blames me for sources n links too. Rubber/glue Horist —- does not work for Trump, will not work for you.
BUSTED.
It’s hush money, and that’s not what he is charged with.
No, I take no sexual gratification from rape. That’s your fantasy.
Maybe in your world, most people have made up their minds, but not in America. “For example, if not for him our constitution would be in shambles by now” if not for Trump? How do you conjure that one? I thought it was Biden has already destroyed it as mastermind of a criminal family who drools and dodders in his dementia.
I am sure you think Trump will win. Thanks for sharing.
Horist babbles: “There was only one thing wrong with her testimony. It and nothing … as in nada … to do with the case being tried. It had only one purpose. It was an attempt to demean and damage Trump personally – to get the jury to hate Trump as much as Daniels admitted on the stand that she hates Trump. It was to prejudice the jury. It was the prosecution that not only put her on the stand, but then elicited the totally inappropriate testimony. It was so bad that Judge Juan Merchan admonished Daniels and the prosecution for bringing up those unrelated and off-limits issues. It brought both an objection from Trump’s defense team and a motion to declare a mistrial.”
Mr. Hoirst. This trial is about what Trump did. Stormy Daniels is not on trial for her life, lifestyle, or career choices. Nor is Cohen, Pecker, or the rest. You can go at them on the facts, but really, just leave the personal attacks for your critics…..nah, drop them too. Trump is the one who said he never did it, never did her. He opened the door and his lawyers refused to try to shut it.
There’s way too much coverage on this, some of which Horist apparently missed. Fact is in most cases, especially where the act is essentially admitted, where the act does not prove the crime being tried, the DEFENSE will just stipulate to the act and skip the testimony all together. Basically would have taken all the salacious air out of the Daniel’s testimony. Defense law 101. Trump has the best lawyers, they know this, they practice this regularly —- but in this case, for some strategic reason, they have not stipulated to jack shit in this case. It’s a ploy, probably by Trump himself since it is stupid, and intended to either delay the trial (increases his donations through martyr status) or cause mistrial (oops, that dog don’t hunt on this one, sorry Don, you blew it, here come da judge). The Defense in this case, strangely, will stipulate to nothing, so the same shit everyone heard, no one contests, must be aired since Trump says it never happened and will not stipulate to the obvious. Now, the jury can decide after hearing all this shit that team Trump has decided to let air. They don’t stipulate. They object so little that the judge asks them, on the record, why? That kills that appeal…..
So, Trump said it never happened, Trump could stipulate it did, he does not stipulate, so the jury has to hear it from the witnesses instead. Trial mechanics 101. It’s Trump’s lawyers and Trump’s choice that this happened.
Yes, Mechan has warned, admonished, before, during and after about entering things into evidence not germane to the crimes at hand. What Horist leaves out is that when the Defense went for mistrial (a possible ploy for not stipulating a known truth), Merchan noted “you could have objected…..” He’s pretty much shot down the appeal for prejudicial evidence being entered. Good job, Trump lawyers. Great strategy.
Horist continues: “I cannot prove it one way or another (nor can anyone else) – but all that is irrelevant to the case before the jury.” Except as the act that caused the crime being adjudicated, it needs to be stipulated as happening or proven false. Trump did neither and so it’s evidence allowed to be heard. The magazine spanking session was priceless. I was really waiting for the kink; I just knew there would be kink. Kinda expected Trump in a man-sized full body condom, but alas, a good spanking will have to do. Will make future rallies special as Trump imagines a naked crowd and the crowd imagines spanking Trump……
Horist is so forgiving. $130K, times two when you pay off Cohen, and “I cannot prove it one way or another.” Two other known payoffs, one to a Playboy model alleging same, and one to a doorman who no one in their right mind would pay off —- but Trump did. Why? Tough guy broke down and paid for nothing? One thing to consider: we all understand men paying for sex. But how many pay for sex AFTER the sex? “Oh wow babe, that was great, have a buck….” More like: “I’m so sorry, here’s some money, please don’t tell them what I did….” Gotta love a guy who pays to hide his sex. Many write it up on the bathroom wall……
And then there’s Horist treating men and women equally:
“This from a woman who has made a living by handing her body over to innumerable men for profit?”
“I just think that Daniels was brought in by the prosecution for just one more pornographic performance.”
“Was the frumpy look — seen in the photo atop this commentary — part of prosecutorial stage crafting?”
And closing with a condescending porn star joke:
“she appeared in court because she was told she might get to see a hung jury…”
Fashion critic Horist judging women on appearance while demeaning porn workers in demand by people just like Horist. There would be no women in porn without men paying their salaries. But many, like Horist, blame the women, demean the job as unholy and sit in false judgement of the women while absolving the men like Trump. It’s Trump, TRUMP, who did the crime, and now it’s Trump that can face that music. Stormy didn’t beg him to fuck her. Stormy didn’t beg him to pay her to silence the story. Stormy did not bring him to court. HE DID.
Our President fucked a porn star, paid her and others he fucked, big bucks to squash the story so America would not hear it before his election against Hillary Clinton. He then falsified business records to hide it all. It’s not a joke. And it’s not a joke just because a porn star is involved. Nor is a woman less a person just because she is a porn star. After all, good enough for Trump…….
No proof of falsified records. This farce has been going on for weeks and nothing is proven. Larry should remind you that hush money ain’t illegal. And Cohen shot bragg’s case today. But Frank wants Trump to be convicted guilty or not. Another example of a slimy democrat. So stfu frank. You’re opinions are not resonating. So follow Biden’s lead and become more retarded
How can you say that Jim? Really…. Cohen went to jail for it. Trump was unindicted co-conspirator number one, as in he be going to jail. But Trump weaponized DOJ with Barr dropping the case. That’s when NY could pick it up after Barr dropped a no-brainer win.
In the NY case, there are freaking reams of documentation showing falsified records. Trump defense is not even objecting but will try to “recharacterize” the meaning of what’s clearly documented. The fact that Trump paid Cohen a true-up to even cover taxes makes it pretty clear it was a pay-off, not legal services. Nope, he’s toast on falsified records as Cohen was before him.
No one is in court for a hush money payment. He’s in court for falsified records with the intent of the falsification to be a cover-up of another felony. Yes, it is not proven. That’s why we are in court, with a jury, smart guy. Fuck, we don’t even know the underlying crime Bragg and company are using. And you don’t even know what the case is about.
Trump is more Democrat than Cohen so not sure what you are trying to say. But he’s a sexual abusing cheating businessman with corporate felonies, a lot a liable convictions for sexual abuse, defamation, fraud in Trump University, fraud in Trump Foundation, with a company convicted of multiple felonies, that you can’t wait to vote for because sexual-abuse-defamation-felony-cheating is what the Constitution is all about for you.
I’ll take a doddering old man who knows government inside and out any day of the week over that.
I honestly don’t know why you ask me to stfu. Hasn’t worked yet.
The doddering old prick in charge of the free world???? Man!!!!! You really are a fucking moron.
I am still waiting to hear the Russians Paid Trump to sleep with her as he may have
penetrated the Iron Curtain!