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LGBTQ Pride Fest Manifesting as War on Children

LGBTQ Pride Fest Manifesting as War on Children

What started as an LGBTQ Pride Month celebration by the liberals has unmasked itself as an open war of sexual nature on children, leaving many worried and angered.

Over the weekend, multiple videos of the so-called Pride celebration from Democrat-run states made rounds on social media. The most viral ones came from New York where a party in Washington Square Park in New York City included many topless women seen dancing, hugging, and kissing at a fountain – all in the presence of children. Independent journalist Andy Ngo shared a video on Twitter from this “clothing-optional” event.

Ngo’s video has so far received well over 18 thousand comments and close to 9 million views with fierce condemnation by conservatives who see these displays of sexual nature in children’s presence as a campaign of pedophilia. One account that goes by Truth Justice tweeted its reaction calling the event as part of the movement to normalize pedophilia. The comment added:

“These children being exposed to these sexual adults in the above video is depravity and against the laws of humanity.”

Aside from the video of the NYC event at the fountain, news of the annual Drag March held in New York City on Friday sparked outrage as some of the participants in the march chanted, “We’re coming for your children.” The New York Post reported that one of the chanters was a dancing topless woman. The video of the event evoked a furious resaction from many conservatives. Podcaster Graham Allen was cited saying:

“This is what EVIL looks like.”

Elon Musk also expressed strong condemnation of the open declaration of war on children and called for jailing those in the video.

Liberals on Twitter downplayed the chant and claimed that only one person in the group chanted the line mentioning children while the rest chanted, “We’re not going shopping.”

Over in Seattle, WA, footage from an LGBTQ Pride event showed naked men biking down the street with people, including children, gathered on both sides of the street to watch and greet them. The Post Millennial shared a video of a Seattle Pride parade showing school children leading it with rainbow flags – the cultural symbol of the LGBTQ community and movement. The tweet said:

“It would seem that they truly are coming for the children… and too many parents are freely handing them over!!”

 

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  1. frank stetson

    Is Ernest earnest in this?

    Thanks for the memories, Dumpster, it’s like being in the late 60’s all over again. It’s the Age of Aquarius, Age of Aquar i u s….

    I am not a fan of PDA’s, nudity, or even extremely itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka dot bikinis….but I don’t pull an Ernest and go into apoplexy when I see it.

    Big deal. Nudity at a Pride Celebration in the fountain at the park on a summer’s day. How many people were groomed at Woodstock Ernie. How many pedophiles created by 4 years and 1,750 performances of Hair on Broadway?

    A nude bike parade in Seattle where some conclude that parents are freely turning their kids over to pedophiles. Is every naked man a pedophile? Or just the ones in Washington?

    But Urkel has conflated this to a Democratic-State, Liberal War on Children. Just like they did at Woodstock, during the run of Hair, and the like. Yet the barbarians were not at the gate then, and they are not at the gate now.

    Parents —- don’t take your kids to LGBTQ events if you don’t want to see it. I am Irish and avoid St Patty’s Parade to avoid open drunkenness, as illegal as a nude run. If you find yourself there, with your kids, leave immediately. They will be OK. They will survive and not instantly become Jeffrey Epstein overnight. Millions survived Woodstock and Hair; the nation did not fall. Matter of fact, we gained freedoms, not lost them.

    Funny story, like I said, not a big fan of PDA’s or public nudity, even sleeveless shirts —- so, it’s college time, nude run season and the kid’s are lining up in the dorm across the quad for the night’s festivities. Like I said not a fan, but I am a fan of the HUGH spotlight. So, from the top floor as the pack comes running by, we spot a group. They, being blinded run straight forward as the pack turns left. Suddenly, out of the spot light, away from the pack, nude, they looked like deer in the headlights. I have never seen people run so fast to gain the safety of the pack. Appently they were not a nude-comfortable alone as they were in a mob. Funny humans. And no, the experience did not turn any of us into pedophiles. I still have the spotlight though…..

    What’s next for you Earnest — telling how all art featuring nudes must be destroyed? The Kiss turned to rubble? Will Picasso nudes, being cubist, pass muster? Let’s just enforce the current laws of the land, they seem good enough, write these people up for misdemeanor citations and move on. It is not, as Ernie suggests, a Democratic-state plot, an lgbtq plot or any other conspiracy. It’s a hot day in NYC in the fountain in the park.

    But thanks for the memories. Between that and bringing back “communist” to demean liberals, we just need to add “pinko” and we will be Johnson/Nixon all over again.

    • Octavia

      You are part of the problem. What grown man thinks it’s ok to get naked and ride a bike around a bunch of children? Obviously you’re that kind of “man”. No one is saying he can’t do it. We are saying do it until your balls hurt somewhere that children aren’t forced to view this sick and depraved activity. You can paint flowers on a garbage can all day but at the end of the day it’s still a garbage can.

      • frank stetson

        Octavia: Perhaps your constant panty bunching over nothing is part of the problem accusing me of saying it’s OK to get naked around children when I pretty clearly stated: “I am not a fan of PDA’s, nudity, or even extremely itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka dot bikinis….but I don’t pull an Ernest and go into apoplexy when I see it.”

        And then I added: “Let’s just enforce the current laws of the land, they seem good enough, write these people up for misdemeanor citations and move on. It is not, as Ernie suggests, a Democratic-state plot, an lgbtq plot or any other conspiracy. It’s a hot day in NYC in the fountain in the park.”

        Sweet Octavia, unknot thy knickers oh apoplexy one. Get the law to do their work. In most places, public nudity is against the law. Specifically, in Washington, the State you are all flustered up about has the law:
        (1) A person is guilty of indecent exposure if he or she intentionally makes any open and obscene exposure of his or her person or the person of another knowing that such conduct is likely to cause reasonable affront or alarm. The act of breastfeeding or expressing breast milk is not indecent exposure.
        (2)(a) Except as provided in (b) and (c) of this subsection, indecent exposure is a misdemeanor.
        (b) Indecent exposure is a gross misdemeanor on the first offense if the person exposes himself or herself to a person under the age of fourteen years.
        (c) Indecent exposure is a class C felony if the person has previously been convicted under this section or of a sex offense as defined in RCW 9

        The police were there. It appears no one was arrested, nor has been arrested since. Sure, Octavia, it’s a cultural problem if these schmucks think this is OK. But, as I said, in the scheme of things —- don’t go. It appears we are in a war and both sides are making a stand. Just avoid it, or if faced with it, walk away. Your kids will be find.

        Meanwhile, folks in Washington should be all over their police to do their jobs. They’ve got video for pitty’s sake. The 1.6 investigators can tell then how to use the internet to catch these guys. And let’s make an example of the law.

        Meanwhile, not sure about the NYC fountain, but if a shirt or two, some bottoms, are missing, again — use the laws in place, they are find as they are.

      • EMMA

        WHAT IS OUR COUNTRY COMING TO??WHY DO PARENTS STAND BY WATCHING THESE SICK ABOMINATIONS?? THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN PRISON FOR THIS PEDO CHARADE.OUR FRIENDS IN GERMANY TELL US ”’ONLY IN AMERICA”’ THAT TELLS IT ALL. SHAME ON OUR ADMINISTRATION TO LET THIS HAPPEN. JUST ONE MORE MARC AGAINST OUR NATION.BIDEN IS THE CULPRIT OF ALL THIS DISGUSTING SHOW.

  2. cmw

    I believe in live and let live if you mind your own business.
    Forcing your perverted whims of gender ideologues, your values on me, or young impressionable children is unacceptable and reprehensible, especially under the woke guise of social inclusion.

    Asking me to, “Celebrate,” your values is even more unacceptable.

    • frank stetson

      Actually…..just enforce the law on public nudity, lewdness, etc. It’s on the books.

      But for anything legal, pride parades, etc. given your beliefs, would it not be appropriate to ask you whether you would like to attend or not? Isn’t it the forcing or surprise that’s of issue? Again, if you are upset at legal pride affairs, walk away. If illegal, call a cop, take a picture, whatever.

  3. Steve

    It was bad enough when it was just faggits crying like babies but now that the filthy mentally ill pervert trannies are involved they are out of control and need to be shot on site.Trannies are non human creatures and have no rights. They are a sickness that need to be killed off, maybe it’s time for dr death to invent a vaccine to wipe them all out

    • frank stetson

      Gotta love a guy who has a list of “non-humans” that need to be killed asap.

      nice job steve. Joe — gotta love free speech calling for wiping out a bunch of citizens.

  4. Tom

    Great article Ernest! And do not worry about Frank’s childish disrespect for your name, he does this often. Its just his way when he knows he is defending a losing position. Frank and Trump are very similar like this. They resort to name calling and defamation when their clip is empty. Keep up the good work and fealty to wholesome values and good behaviors. The Franks of the world will be swallowed up by their own garbage words.

    Actually Frank, CV NEWS FEED // At an annual “pride” parade in New York City last week, marchers chanted “We’re here, we’re queer, we’re coming for your children.” And it was most of them chanting this. Yet in other posts you said there is no proof of grooming. Again, you are full of BS, here is your proof but you refuse to look.

    On June 23, hundreds of “drag queens” and other LGBTQ activists marched in a parade in Manhattan. The parade marked the beginning of NYC’s “pride weekend.”

    You like proof, see *CV NEWS FEED // At an annual “pride” parade in New York City last week, marchers chanted “We’re here, we’re queer, we’re coming for your children.”

    On June 23, hundreds of “drag queens” and other LGBTQ activists marched in a parade in Manhattan. The parade marked the beginning of NYC’s “pride weekend.” *https://catholicvote.org/nyc-pride-marchers-coming-for-children/?mkt_tok=NDI3LUxFUS0wNjYAAAGMmzmlpXyBlqbg-3FpQHO8rCVmK_SR7p9IMhJzOQ4ZLHx8yfYeE_7-QBaVrkXZNyuASGz9swyhijlEBSZUWSDoMpWtmX4E-c1AeZ1dsgg*

    I agree, if you do not want your kids to see this kind of sick perversion, then do not take them. But we all know you defend this kind of perversion. For the record, here are some things that you get wrong:

    1) They were marching on public streets and in public parks where decency coded and rules are supposed to apply and these places are supposed to be family friendly. LGBTQ does themselves more harm than good. Voters will remember this.

    2) I did not attend Woodstock Music Fest but remember it well. I do not remember nor have I seen any video footage of little children there. Also Woodstock was held on a private out of the way farm. I also seem to recall that they had an age requirement to get in. So this argument is total rubbish.

    I chuckle how much you are like Larry!!! Larry claims to not be a fan of Trump yet defends Trump at just about every turn. You claim “I am not a fan of PDA’s, nudity, or even extremely itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka dot bikinis….” which is a bunch of BS because I notice you did not say you are not a fan of homosexuality, gender changes on pre-teens, etc. You are not a fan, but at every turn, just like Larry, you defend it.

    • frank stetson

      Tom, is Ernest really even his name? Is he even a real boy, or AI….. But he’s public and the gloves are off for public figures; it’s different. He threw his hat and his little gay picture into the ring. But if you want to draw the line above public officials for some name calling, just let us know you are sensitive that way. And I will stop in earnest.

      The clip you mention does indeed show someone yelling that. Is he lgbtq? a supporter? or someone else like a conservative? So far, it is not known. But you condemn the entire group, parade, whatever. Very independent of you no doubt.

      “I do not remember nor have I seen any video footage of little children there.” take a closer look, little kids, lots of nekid ones, all over. Age limits? They didn’t even have gates, it was open border time. A little flowery but pretty definitive piece: *https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/woodstock/#:~:text=Watch%20Woodstock%20%7C%20American%20Experience%20%7C%20Official%20Site%20%7C%20PBS*

      Point I made is our current laws suffice, enforce them. But leave the grooming, pedophile, hate shit at home. You created this situation, you have thrown the first punches, they are the ones under attack with your trans bans, book bans, curriculum bans, and more. The parades and such have now become battlefields, war zones, parents should avoid for that reason alone. I would gather the summer just gets hotter in this regard as both sides are not looking for compromise.

      As to the rest of your garbage: it appears we are in a war now. It is not a war started by lgbtq, but against lgbtq, and yes, they are pushing back. I honestly think you have a point in keeping this away from children; the issue is that you are over-the-top in your response including restrictions, bans, and violence. Now they are reacting: there is much nudity, bad gestures and language, more coming. The extreme edge of the community will be “coming for your kids” vocally because it riles you up big time. Just like BLM, your side will try to inflame by infiltrating and spreading hate perhaps just like our “coming for your kids” guy.

      And the only thing I support here is let people do what they want behind closed door, just don’t do it in front of me. That includes you Tom, keep your freakin hands off her in public please and keep IT in your pants in public. I also support the laws, which seem sufficient. And enforcing them which seems to be a bit lax. And therein lies the rub here: not some douche mouthing of or some boys taking it off, or some girls pointing up high, but the problem is our police are not enforcing the laws. Why? And how to fix that. I mean these troublemakers are on tape: what are we waiting for? Let’s make some examples.

      • Tom

        Frank, I have to give you credit. You are the only person I see on these blogs that can write hundreds and thousands of words in response and never mention anything that was said. Once again, you do not defend what I said about you. You just flail and see what will stick, if anything. Again, you did not listen to what the gay guy said about how they are being groomed. Apparently you did not listen to him when he said it is the LGBTQ fringe that has taken control and is warring against parents to further their ideology. You seem to have missed this point! No, everybody needs to know what all grooming is and how to recognize it and get it out of your child’s school. And now you want to blame folks like me for “creating this situation”? We did not force the sexually explicit books into our school libraries! How dare you be so perverted as to say folks like me started it. No, folks like me are trying to stop it. They are the once pushing their ideology. You seem to have missed all of this. And then you mention that I “condemned the parade” which I did not do. Just more flailing by you. What I condemned was the nudity in a public park and on public streets. I never said anything condemning the parade. What I condemned was the LGBTQ beating up a straight person for expressing their view – not very inclusive of them!!! You want inclusive but you do not include straight people with a difference of opinion. The only inclusivity you desire is those that agree with your point of view. I agree with you that the laws need to be enforced.

  5. Sam

    Homosexuality is SIN
    HAV FUN BURNING IN HELL

  6. Tom

    Ernest, this is the reality of what Frank is defending:

    1) In a previous post, Frank defended not sending our troops to Taiwan and other places where their bodies can be wounded and crippled. Yet he does not mind wounding and crippling young children’s minds with this kind of poisonous ideology.

    2) Frank is defending public nudity as well as LGBTQ immorality in a crafty way as “personal choice on your part” to just not take them to an event. He is making YOU the problem, not them when he does this!

    3) Frank defends this kind of garbage under the guise of LBGTQ rights and “its only nudity, look at Woodstock” when he is fully aware that the first step in grooming and gaining acceptance is to expose a person to the perversion enough that the person is insensitive to it and thinks it is common place stuff.

    4) Frank defends this type of behavior which has become a religion even when gays themselves do not like it, and Frank calls Gays Against Groomers” a fringe right wing extremist organzation when really they just want it to get back to the original mission and save kids from indoctrination. But Frank denounces this group, see at *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0siCXElKLo* Watch at minute mark 6 minutes when this man is asked, “Who is the enemy?” He is actually describing Frank in many ways on this issue. Listen to minute 6-8 and then reread what Frank wrote. You will see the enemy! LOL Sorry Frank, if the shoe fits, where it.

    5) Frank denies that these left wing LGBTQ nuts have the attention of the center of power right now, and Frank prefers to promote this, and the flying of the LGBTQ flag in classrooms over wholesome family child friendly values. Then listen to Minute 9 and what is abuse? And think about grooming. Anyone with common sense (not trumped by political ideology) will see that grooming is a form of abuse.

    Then listen to this Megan Kelly discussion (Megan used to be all for the LGBTQ community) and see what she says about this topic. In the end, notice how she shows a video of a straight person being beaten because of the intolerance of these LGBTQ folks this past weekend. See this video at *https://libertyonenews.com/megyn-kelly-and-glenn-greenwald-highlight-the-sick-behavior-during-recent-pride-events/?utm_source=L1%20Newsletter%201&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:62094780&utm_campaign=1687963125%20WATCH:%20Megyn%20Ke…%20(Duplicate%20%231)* Frank is defending this intolerance. He would say, “Well she should not have held up that sign.” or “She should not have gone there.”

    So do not feel bad when Frank dumps on you about this. There are parts of his liberal ideology that he just cannot part with, no matter who and how many are being harmed. Its just Frank.

    https://libertyonenews.com/megyn-kelly-and-glenn-greenwald-highlight-the-sick-behavior-during-recent-pride-events/?utm_source=L1%20Newsletter%201&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:62094780&utm_campaign=1687963125%20WATCH:%20Megyn%20Ke…%20(Duplicate%20%231)

    • frank stetson

      Gee Tom, not only do I feel our love affair is ending, but not sure you even want that beer now. Mexican piss beer of course, so I am OK with missing it. Sorry, if your last response indicates you don’t like my answers. Although, for all your words, without greater specificity, I will pass on a response. As to your numbered list:

      1) Not even close to true that I support hurting kids with poisonous ideology. And you’re saying the ideology is poisonous which appears to be unconstitutional, amongst many legal and spiritual problems. A naked person is not an ideology unless it’s nudism you fear.

      2) Yes, I am suggesting parents think about where they take their kids. Perhaps you don’t. I defended the law which most often does not allow nudity. I defend the law that states what can and can not be presented to kids by anyone, including non-hetero’s. Perhaps you want “special” laws for non-hetero’s.

      3) I defend this under the guise of human rights where you seem to think there are good humans and bad humans based on sexual preference. My goodness. You are very afraid. You see a nude and think groom. You think nude is perversion. It’s not an addiction. It’s not a slippery slope. You are just afraid.

      4) Gays against Groomers is a fringe right wing extremist organization that sees groomers behind every tree. It was started by a gay huckster this year to make money by weaponizing grooming issues. No one supports a groomer. It’s just that they just don’t exist in some organized group effort that all trans/gays/etc. partake in. You are just afraid they do. You equate trans with grooming. Gay with grooming. But let me guess, lesbians don’t groom? Uh oh, girl’s showers in gym looking like a predatorial grooming grounds. Better get on that and shut er down…. I just think your fear is overblown and blowing your objectivity.

      5) I never said we should fly the pride flag in the class rooms. Maybe it’s Megyn Kelly, it’s Megyn by the way, not Meghan. She’s got her point, is very smart, but sorry, I just don’t see groomers behind every bush. I just don’t see the need for such fear and loathing, mostly the fear. It’s gotten out of control. No one supports grooming, everyone would like all groomers locked up, but some of us don’t believe that requires shutting off all contact with LGBTIQQ like they are the lepers you seem to believe they are.
      Wow, a straight person getting beat up at a pride event for holding an anti-pride sign. You say beaten; I see some bitch-slapping. And the best part is they keep touching her, she screaming over and over “stop, fucking touching me,” and, of course, they touch her. Not quite a beating like I remember…. But violence is wrong, this is wrong and they should be arrested according to the law. I think Kelly might be your best source, anecdotal as much of it is, but she explains her turnaround well.

      But you make my point: you folks have started this war, LGBTIQQ is pushing back, and these things are getting quite testy at times, if not violent. Apparently gay was OK, trans was on the cusp but that was the straw that broke the hetero’ back. Trans on the can was a bridge too far. Desanctimomious jumped the bandwagon on his way to Pennsylvania ave. Voting with your wallet is one thing, but the laws, the restrictions, the laws, the violence, the exclusion. The pushback is going too far. You see, the problem with freedom, equality, and inclusion is that once you taste it, you have a hard time giving it up. You say it’s about the groomers, but they are not the only ones. You say just ban some books, but that’ not all you want. So, yeah —- these folks are going to push back as you keep pushing on them.

      IMO, all we can do is be a nation of laws, follow the laws, and arrest those who break the law. Most of your whining is about activities in the last week; I hope the cops will use the tapes and get these nudies and touchers behind bars ASAP.
      But Tom, you did get one thing correct: “it’s just Frank.”

  7. Dan tyree

    The queers are saying that they are coming for our children. Maybe they had better rethink that.

    • RICHARD

      THESE QUEERS ARE ALL MENTALLY CHALLENGED. THIS SHOW OF LEWDNESS TELLS IT ALL. ARREST THEM, THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR CHILDREN OR OUR NATION. HOW MANY NATIONS OUT THERE ARE POINTING THE FINGER ON BIDENS ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW, HIS ADMINISTRATION IS FULL OF THESE SICK PEDOS.TIME TO BRING BACK PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY. WHILE WE ARE AT IT, CLOSE BIDENS BORDER AND DEPORT ALL 7 MILLION HE INVITED IN TO OUR COUNTRY. HE REALLY IS SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA. FROM DAY ONE HE DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY, JUST LIKE OBAMA DID, WHO VOTED FOR THEM BOTH??? MUST BE AMERICA HATING TRAITORS.

      • frank stetson

        Yeah baby, we destroyed America twice now. I voted for them both, many times, by mail, in many states including confusion.

        Richard’s leaning against a lamppost
        Starin’ down at the ground on which he stands
        He looks up and screams
        For in the lamplight’s beams
        There stood the famous naked man
        Beware, beware, beware of the naked man

        Richard’s screming at the lampost
        Think’s his gayness has been made
        Then suddenly he sees, not the forest or the trees
        but he’s found himself in the naked man’s shade
        Beware, beware, beware of the naked shade

  8. Mike f

    It is obvious that the comments ‘we are coming for your children’ were made in response to the many laws that are being written trying to criminalize drag performances because of the affect they have on children-but so many of you idiots believe those words were spoken sincerely. And Tom, you mention something that you attributed to Megan Kelly about some LGBT people attacking a straight person-while I am not familiar with that case, I doubt it was unprovoked, but I ask you-how many straight people have attacked (even murdered) gay people simply for being Gay? Allow me to assure you-no child has ever turned Gay for watching a Pride Parade or seeing a drag show (though some may have gotten the courage to be who they are after seeing these events). And then we have the promotion of ‘Christian Values’ in these discussions by nutcases like Dan above which simply disgusts me…

    • Dan tyree

      I rest my case. Be here and be queer. But don’t mess with my kids. You lefties can blow each other until the cows come home. I don’t care. Being queer is not to be forced on kids. But it is every time a fag couple adopts kids

    • frank stetson

      Mike f: intended to incite, intended as the truth, intended as sarcasm, who knows —- while this person’s stupid statements should not convict the entire demographic, and we honestly don’t even know he’s from the group, may be a Proud Boy getting his proud off, we don’t know. We do know that it was a really stupid thing intended to incite, inflame, and escalate a tense situation. In no universe could this help anything or anyone.

      Truth is we are at a wartime status with this stuff and everyone needs to take a breather.

      Although let’s face it. Bashing gays, banning books, banning education, banning library readings, nude runs, nude rides, tearing down Target displays, trans on cans, tearing down protestor displays, screwing the mouse —- hey, it’s all good fun if you get your rocks off putting pain into a stranger. And it’s so much easier than working on global warming and how we are turning our planet into a toilet, heated seat and all….. That’s tough stuff to fix. Much easier to remove life’s frustrations by slapping some dumb bitch holding a anti-pride sign. So, come on down to the pride parades, let’s all have a swell time.

  9. frank stetson

    Dan,
    FYVM for the “lefties can” comment, WAD.

    Being gay is clearly not FORCED on kids each and every time, or at any time unless you’ve been peeking in the windows……or have some other proof that you forgot to add.

    However, the jury is out re: “inclinations” of alternative lifestyles in kids of gay parents due to having gay parents. Think further, and highly structured statistical studies, need to be conducted, but for you haters out there, might be a viable reason to question artificial child creations for these folks and should they have “factory-produced” families. Amazingly it appears that it does happen, might be at a greater rate than hetero couples and, if it does happen, it’s more so with lesbians than homosexuals, more girls than guys, go figure. Usually the lesbians fare better on the issues.

    *https://borngay.procon.org/questions/are-children-who-are-raised-by-gay-parents-more-likely-to-be-gay-themselves/* Cameron is the big study for saying it matters, pro, but plenty enough con’s to say that more research is needed.

    But not one of these researchers is saying anything is forced, except Dan, without any proof, and luckily he has only forced hetero sex upon his kids. Hopefully he does not tie them down :>) And yes, I have no proof of this either, just like Dan has not shown any proof of gays forcing their kids to be gay.

    The point remains that perhaps family grooming is a real thing, not necessarily intended, not necessarily forced, may just be proximity and familiarity. BUT —- seems relevant enough that we should task the CDC with doing some real, primary, statistical research into the issue. Thought I would nail Dan on this one, but he may have a point —- certainly can not definitively say he is wrong.

    • Dan tyree

      I’m never wrong. Just sometimes mistaken

      • Mike f

        Actually Dan, you are always wrong. You have been spun up by the conservative politicians that there is a real problem here that will “scar children for life” but you and those of your ilk put your heads in the sand when it comes to issues that really do scar children for life (and even maim or kill them). Of course the issue is gun control, but you idiots are so self centered, feeling that any restriction to gun rights might impinge on your freedom, that you refuse to support any changes that would benefit children. Concerned about children? Nah, it’s all bullshit drummed up by your ‘leaders’ to prevent you from focusing on the damage they are doing to the country by their fiscal actions…

  10. frank stetson

    Intended to incite, intended as the truth, intended as sarcasm, just really stupid, real person, fake person, who really knows? While this person’s stupid statements should not convict the entire demographic, and we honestly don’t even know he’s from the group. He may be a Proud Boy getting his proud off, we don’t know. We do know that it was a really stupid thing intended to incite, inflame, and/or escalate an already tense situation. In no universe could this help anything or anyone.

    Truth is we are at a wartime status with this stuff and everyone needs to take a breather.

    Let’s face it. Bashing gays, banning books, banning education, banning library readings, nude runs, nude rides, tearing down Target displays, trans on cans, tearing down protestor displays, screwing the mouse —- hey, it’s all good fun if you get your rocks off putting pain into a stranger. And it’s so much easier than working on something important like global warming and how we are turning our planet into a toilet, heated seat and all….. That’s tough stuff to fix. Much easier to remove life’s frustrations by slapping some dumb bitch holding a anti-pride sign. So, come on down to the pride parades, let’s all have a swell time.

    We seem to expend more effort in tearing each other apart for our differences than we do working together to build and fix things these days.

    Fact is, like most wars, this one is exacerbated by FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt, not to mention confusion; a lot of confusion. Folks are merging many facets of the alternative lifestyle, and what people do, into bold statements, untrue, about groups of people, whether conservative, gay, or whatever.

    For example, the difference in the trans-meds-surgeries for minors is a night and day different issue than trans-library readings which is night an day different than drag shows which all are different than, dare I say it, “normal” gay life and culture. I am pretty sure almost everyone is against:

    – grooming
    – sleeping with minors
    – whipping it out in front of minors, ditto on everything else down this ally.

    I am pretty sure a majority of Americans still believe in equal rights for gays, and while there may be a difference in thinking on the paperwork/religious aspects of marriage, a majority probably believe in equal conveyance of our rights there like taxation, inheritance, etc. Just like we treat common law marriages similarly to marriages by the state.

    For the drag thing, seems that the only offense is doing too much sexuality and doing it in the wrong place. I think the majority don’t have an issue there and we probably don’t need new laws on decency to cover the issue. Just freakin enforce them and, if you believe it’s a drag porn tsunami, make examples of the first ones to send a message.

    Same with the book bans: why do we need new laws to go after porn in our libraries unless banners are going for something beyond that.

    For the trans thing — this is the dicey one right now: trans meds and medical procedures. When and who. Some feel it’s their kids, it’s a medical/scientific issue — and let the professionals guide the parents to make the right decision for their child. But should there be restrictions on meds/procedures as to what can be used and when can it be used. Folks who have strong cultural, religious, personal reasons should have an opinion, but in the end, we should get together, codify the issue and move on. I am a firm believer that parents are first to make these decisions but can understand reservations on age and procedures allowed. It’s one of the most sensitive battlegrounds in this war and somehow this, grooming, readings, bathrooms, sports, etc. all get muddled together taking the focus off each specific issue.

    The trans in the bathroom issue —– I gotta say, I have not a clue what the right answer is but it certainly sounds like one door, one person, one bathroom and, oh my, what a cost that is and for what. But I can’t do better. Works in other countries, but they started that way.

    And then trans-in-sports, etc. etc. and it all seems like a big cost to satisfy a small slice of populace. Wish I had a better answer, I suggest individual sports like skiing…. unfortunately, sounds like a special trans Olympics to me. Again, expensive but seems a good answer to end the issue. If it works for the physical challenged, why not the gender challenged (probably wrong to say it like that, hope you get my intention).

    One thing is clear: trans, drag, gay, grooming —– it’s not just one big thing, it’s many big things not necessarily the same, not necessarily even linked. For example: grooming just bad — no matter what gender or lifestyle is doing it, it’s just as bad. Likewise, lewdness and public porn is bad —– no matter what lifestyle. As to the rest —- there are a number of issues and each one may be addressed individually in a court of law, in our Congress, and while we may protest, under the law, any lewdness, violence, should not be tolerated, and let’s arrest, indite, arraign, and prosecute under the law.

  11. Frank stetson

    And today the ScOTUS formally announced it’s OK to deny services to gays and lesbians. Feel free to turn them away from your business.

    When can we get the special water fountains? Bathrooms?

    And the ethical SCOTUS is off for the holiday weekend vacationing for free with their favorite billionaires.

    Gotta love them conservatives.