Democrat Criticism of the Iran War is Wrong, Dangerous and Disloyal.
President Trump can take counsel from Shakespeare, who wrote.
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles.
Or perhaps Trump already has. After all, he is already known for taking up arms when experiencing the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”. In that case, Trump should hope for a positive conclusion to the war in Iran – remembering that “All’s Well That Ends Well.”
And that is the question.
Currently, we have a lot of armchair generals – politicians, reporters and even some politicized former generals – who are making judgments on the war and every new event. They are not making objective observations, however, but partisan interpretations that have spent too much time in the spin machine.
Critics say that this is an unnecessary war of choice – and that Iran posed no imminent threat to the United States or the civilized world. The second criticism answers the first. Virtually every nation on earth saw Iran as the number one sponsor of world terrorism. That is not debatable. The criminal regime in Tehran has been responsible for innumerable acts of violence against the free world — including responsibility for the deaths of millions of people throughout the Middle East and across the globe over the past 47 years. This includes hundreds of thousands of their own people. They have wreaked havoc costing billions, if not trillions, of dollars in damage and destruction — and have made hostage taking a matter of foreign policy.
All that is not past history. It has been the unending policies of Iran, the national goal of which is “Death to Israel” and “Death to America” – the nations they refer to as the “little Satan” and the “Big Satan”. And yet, those on the radical left say that Trump’s war is provoking them to hate us. Where have these folks been for the past 47 years?
The answer to the second criticism is a resounding “yes” – the regime in Iran has and does present imminent danger to the United States, Israel and others. The violence has been consistent and ongoing. The October 7th, Tehran sponsored attack on Isael is just one example. Others include the taking of American hostages … the deadly attack on the American barracks in Beirut is yet another … the deadly attack on the USS Cole another … and roadside IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed and maimed American service members. Even so-called lone wolf attacks in America – especially impacting on the Jewish community – offer more examples. Iran’s unchanged historic actions and current actions make them an imminent threat to the United States – not to mention their motivation in pursuing nuclear weapons and long-range delivery systems.
Iran also represents an imminent non-military threat to the United States and the world community. It is within Iran’s power to undermine America’s and other nations’ wellbeing and security by disrupting the flow of oil. We can see that being played out at this very moment.
Since it is obvious that Iran is an ongoing imminent threat – and would be mores so with nuclear capability – this war was not only necessary, but it has been long overdue.
Trump antagonists also claim that he had no plan, no articulated goals and no exit strategy. Those accusations are not only absurd, but they also come close to aiding and abetting an enemy. It is no coincidence that the rhetoric of Democrat leaders and the greater left-wing establishment sounds disturbingly similar to the propaganda criticism and accusations coming from what is left of the regime in Tehran. The language emanating from the American left and the folks in Tehran is designed to build opposition to the war in the pursuit of a premature withdrawal. In other words, a defeat of America’s national interests.
Just because the administration has not informed the public of specific plans and timetables, does not mean they do not exist. It would be official malpractice for the administration to telegraph the plans the enemy. In terms of deadlines or exit strategies, those are impossible to articulate with certainty in advance. Even with the most well developed plans, the vicissitudes of war prevent perfect execution of any plan. It requires field calls.
Critics say that Trump fails to inform the public of the goals. They seem very clear. The number one goal is to destroy Iran’s nuclear capabilities and to take control of the enriched uranium. Another articulated goal is to prevent Iran from being able to continue its sponsorship of world terrorism. There is another purpose, and that defending are allies and friends in the Middle East – including the majority of Iranians who have suffered so severely under the regime. There is a reason why most Arab nations are privately encouraging the United States to press on and complete the job.
Although regime change is not to be advocated out loud, it seems that one goal is … regime change. That is a work in progress. Most of the leadership of the old regime are dead. Many of those who stepped up to take their place are also dead. And there will be more.
The war in Iran cannot be evaluated until it is over. It is entirely possible that Trump will have his “all’s well that ends well” moment. The draconian analyses coming from the left are at best premature and inappropriate. At worst, they are partisan driven disloyalty. In times past, it might have been seen as treason.
Do the war critics really want a ceasefire or an American precipitous withdrawal, leaving the remnants of the old regime to reconstitute, to restart their nuclear program with the uranium they currently hold, to continue their terrorist war on America and our allies, to continue to destabilize the Middle East, and continue to oppress and murder their own people? In the absence of a better explanation, that is exactly what they appear to be willing to accept.
So, there ‘tis.
Such bullshit! Larry, I realize you don’t study history, but your ignorance here is totally inexcusable. Number one-trumps actions towards Venezuela, Iran and Cuba are so totally unAmerican-we have been a respected member of the world community since at least WWII because we at least made an effort to follow the rule of law and try to act like a good neighbor. The bastard in the WH has changed that-our Allie’s distrust us, our enemies are laughing because now we are doing what they have been doing all along, which is whatever they want as long as it benefits themselves. And fools like you fault the dems for not praising the idiots in charge for breaking the world rule of law. Number two-Iran was much less of a threat when the Iran nuclear deal was in place-there were inspectors looking at Iran’s nuclear program but then the ignorant SOB decided he knew better than all of our Allie’s negotiators and pulled us out. Such ignorance! And number 3, after the fool broke the law in June and bombed Iran, he declared the threat was eliminated. Of course we knew that was a lie (as is everything djt says), but fools like you love to parrot whatever this sick regime is saying. So how many people should die because we decided that we are now Russia and can attack anyone just because we feel like it, irregardless of how many people might suffer and die? And how much money will be wasted due to this reckless attack? Not just the military expenses Larry, but the dollars that are flying out of peoples pockets, not just in the US but worldwide. Of course our (former) Allie’s are not rushing to help with little projects like opening the straight of Hormuz (despite the bullshit you wrote a week or so that they were) because the bastard didn’t have the decency to consult them before he started killing people..Time for you to give posting your BS Larry, because your tomes simply embarrass yourself…
Mike f … Apart from your gratuitous and erroneous insults — which have the character of projection — you display a lack of intellectual integrity, critical thinking, basic knowledge, logic and common sense. I understand why you resort to the insults. You are mentally not equipped to take up serious dialogue on the subjects of my commentaries. What I do not know is whether it is due to a decline in mental acuity or a life long lack of curiosity.
Larry, I guess calling people names only counts when others do that to you, but when the so-called oracle of Boca does the same, well that is just intelligent discussion. As I have pointed out numerous times in the past, your dumb (and insult laden) responses to me never address the facts I raise. You regularly follow the dumbass guy sitting on the WH, who has spent billions and killed thousands for no results in this particular action dictated by Israel. You are unable to look at the big picture to see the criminality of this regime who is leading the US down the path of authoritarianism due to your support of the R’s as opposed to conservative principles. I can accept true conservative ideas, but the the vast majority of your tomes reflect trumpism rather than the founding ideals of your party. You don’t care what international law says, instead you choose to follow a demented fool down the path that Russia and Hungary have taken. So not the US that I was proud to grow up in…
Hey Mike f as in fag. You’re free to leave anytime. And take Dunger with you.
Wee Willie has called me a liar of fake facts but when called on it, does not have a clue how to defend his accusation. For days I have asked and he’s got nothing but crap like this. Wee weak whining Willie can’t support his own statements.
Larry, as sycophant to your Felon King, your basic premise in all this is found laughable as you spin what the bard said versus the whole truth of what he means. You totally misread a quote, from the bard, by leaving out-of-context, the end of the passage in your zealot’s spin that Trump, “is already known for taking up arms when experiencing the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” as Hamlet struggles with the choice of thoughts versus actions. The part you left on the cutting room floor is that the action being contemplated by Hamlet is suicide. Do you really think this is what’s being contemplated here? Seriously?
Then you claim that the 65% of the nation that disapproves of your actions: “come close to aiding and abetting an enemy.” That’s treason and we all know your penalty when you further claim: “sounds disturbingly similar to the propaganda criticism and accusations coming from what is left of the regime in Tehran.” You state a belief that this war is in our national interests, worthy of ultimate sacrifice and going broke over.
For the felony of free speech, which Larry used to claim is a right held above all others, a right he used to support as an extremist supporter, he brands over half the nation as draconian; a compliment compared to his, disloyal and treasonous branding for the crime of speaking freely.
I think Larry has repressed memories from his Nixon days that Trump has triggered like the hot kiss at the end of a clenched fist. He lists the clear-cut objectives, like over a half-dozen, a virtual plethora of possibilities. Is it one or all, many or few? He does not mention that Trump has rolled these reasons out, one after the other, never together, pivoting from on to the other as the seasons of sentiment change. There is no priority and no idea of “what’s good enough?”
I think my favorite Larryism is: “Just because the administration has not informed the public of specific plans and timetables, does not mean they do not exist.” Does he use the same logic for spacemen, ghosts and maybe flying pigs? Larry, no one is asking for “specific plans and timetables,” and it certainly does mean they MAY not exist. Certainly did not plan for Hormuz. I may address Larry’s objectives in another commentary IF I can get the vomit taste out of my mouth….
And he cannot reconcile why did we turn up the heat on Iran while Trump defunds Ukraine starting in early 2025, a war we should be in and are not. Is it right for Larry to say: “well I can live with turning down Ukraine while tuning up Iran?” And Lebanon. And still bombing Gaza too.
Bottom line: Larry, admit it: you dropped the ball on this war. Fumbled it, muffed it, screwed the pooch, missed the mark, blew it, botched it, made a hash of it….and now it’s a clusterfuck. You thought it an “in and out” like VZ and let Bibi lead you by the nose into a quagmire. You made yuge boasts, they did not cave so far, and now you don’t really know what to do next. You launched a sneak attack on a sovereign nation without warning, without consultation with allies, on an enemy in peace talks with you. You killed 150 school kids, you have few allies in this because you left them out, dragged in a half dozen neighboring nations, none of which support your efforts, and now will TACO out or go in at some point. And you want America to say mum, stand down, and support this? Support what exactly? The only bright side is that if anyone can pull his fat from his own fire, Trump can. Luck or skill, he is fortunate that way and I pray it happens again. I really do pray he can find a way home. No new wars was his best selling point, IMO.
My take on what should of, could of happened: IF Trump had just said: “we are handing out punishment for the 1,000 dead Americans and a continued support of global terrorism,” and then do what he did, and then pull out abruptly saying: “fly right or we will double down next time.” Add “and walk softly because if there is a terror attack by any of your proxies and we get even the slightest whiff of your involvement, we will throw the hammer again and double down.” If he had simply said that, done that, I am guessing the majority of Americans would understand and agree. Even if the 1,000 lost Americans was a stat augmented by an unsupported DOD estimate on IED’s used in Iraq, don’t matter —- you can erase all IED murders and the number is still way too high and still worthy of punishment. But pleading for the Iranians to rise up for regime change, doing your own regime change, take the oil, get the enriched uranium for nuclear, and the rest — chances are you will get nothing for your ultimate sacrifices. As to imminent harm: bullshit.
Trump being Trump, I hope he comes to this himself and figures how to market that, as only Trump can. Previously, I suggested the way through Iran was through Ukraine, but appears that ship has passed. I think claiming “mission accomplished” is his best course. And given we don’t know the mission, “Just because the administration has not informed the public of “mission goals and objectives, “does not mean they do not exist” and have been accomplished. Sure, it has a beat that I can dance to.
As to your specific rationale, the baker’s dozen, the mud tossed at the wall, another commentary, maybe.
Dunger we proudly support a felon for president. And would again if we could. So suck MAGA ass.
Frank Danger …. I am not going to waste time with all your spin, twisted logic, nit picking, and false characterizations. BS is your stock in trade. I believe the war was necessary and long over due … period. From my perspective, you side favors allowing Iran to continue with their deadly business as usual. If you have a dog that misbehaves, you train it. If you have a rabid mad dangerous dog that cannot be made to behave, you put it down. We have had mad dogs running Iran.
Willieatsdung, until you prove your accusations of my lie, with facts and sources; why would I respond to more drivel. Either prove me a liar, find a lie, or be a man and apologize for your mistake. You still have not stepped up.