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Conspiracy theory versus conspiracy fact

Conspiracy theory versus conspiracy fact
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As followers of my commentaries know, I am not into conspiracy theories.  I try to deal in researched facts.  That is why I am certain that President Obama was born in the United States.  I do not believe he is a secret Muslim – although he implemented pro-Arab policies in the Middle East.  I do believe we walked on the Moon.  I do not believe that Covid-19 is an intentional weapon of the Chinese – although I hold them 100 percent responsible for its spread.

So … with that being said, allow me to bring up the case of General Michael Flynn.  In this case, I also do not believe in conspiracy theories.  No.  No.  No.  I do believe that a REAL conspiracy took place – and that it is arguable – and even likely – that crimes have been committed.

Actually, we know that criminal activity was involved at one point.  Whether we are expected to accept it as the normal course of business, whoever leaked the transcript of Flynn’s perfectly legal and appropriate phone call with the former Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak committed a felony.  That is beyond dispute.

Rather than blow it off as Democrats and the media are want to do, we should vigorously investigate and find the culprit.  The identity of that person would provide critical information as to the purpose of the leak and who else might have been in the conspiratorial circle.

If we follow the left-wing east coast news media, we hear emphatic statements that there is no there there in terms of a conspiracy to take down the Trump presidency from the very onset.  No matter how many times they protest innocence, there is too much evidence of coordinated efforts (a conspiracy) to damage President Trump to such a point that he would be expeditiously removed from office.

We have the lovers chit-chat between FBI agents Peter Strzok and his paramour Lisa Page in which he alluded to an “insurance policy” that would pull the rug out from under then President-elect Trump.  That reference is a transparent code for some sort of plan … some strategy … to assure  Page that her anxieties over Trump’s election are unwarranted.

One of the key points that the press raises in defense of their concocted narrative of innocence is that the unmasking of Flynn was normal course of business and that they would have had no idea who that “Person Number 2” was.  That is not only logically flawed, it is provably wrong.  From the context of the call, itself, any half-witted intelligence agent would have known the American side of the call was Flynn.

Furthermore, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe admitted in his book that the issue of Flynn was raised in a briefing with President Obama BEFORE Flynn was unmasked.  So, the investigation was actually launched in the White House with the ascent of Obama.  That seems pretty clear now.

If not a politically motivated effort to “get” Flynn as one part of a larger strategy to take down a duly elected President of the United States, what was the basis for the investigation of Flynn?  Especially when you consider that contrary to their public statements, the key players all testified under oath that there was no obvious crime by Flynn – nor any evidence of a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

We should recall that during the time Reince Priebus was White House Chief-of-Staff, he was advised by … no other than … McCabe that there was no evidence of a conspiracy between the campaign and the Russians.  That is part of the public record.

So … if you want to prove a case, but you have no evidence, what do you do?  You make up evidence.  It is not different than when a dirty cop plants evidence on someone they want to “get.”  Ergo the phony dossiers.

It is worthy to again note that that piece of fraudulent evidence was reported to have been purchased by a consulting firm with money from the  Hillary Clinton campaign –  with the bogus information obtained from Russian operatives and provided to British Intel agent Christopher Steele.  In this case we clearly have campaign operatives illegally conspiring with foreign agents – and yet that should go uninvestigated according to the Democrats and media.

Of course, the first obligation of the FBI is to vet the document thoroughly.  But that is not what happened.  FBI Director James Comey ignored rules and procedures and brought the phony dossier to the attention of Trump privately in what appears to have been an attempt to intimidate the President.

Of course, by this time everyone in the intelligence community knew that the dossier was malicious fiction – arguably an attempt by Russians to use Clinton to undermine the Trump presidency.  Regardless of its fiction and its political source – the Clinton campaign – this bogus document was used as part of the argument for obtaining authority to tap the phones of White House officials – most notably Flynn.

While all this was going on, Democrat, high-ranking bureaucrats and the anti-Trump media were concocting and spreading the bogus Russian conspiracy narrative.  That led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller and a two-year investigation – during which time Democrats and their media friends maintained a drumbeat of accusations of guilt against Trump – including the spectacular lie by House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff that he had actually SEEN (in private) hard evidence of Trump’s criminal conspiracy with the Russians.

After distracting and damaging the administration for two years, Mueller concluded that no such crime had been committed by Trump, his campaign, his associates or any American … period.  And if you set aside the media’s disinformation campaign, you will see that all the indictments and convictions obtained by Mueller against Trump operatives had not involved any criminal conspiracy with Russians.  Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen went to jail for personal financial crimes.  Flynn and George Papadopoulos were charged with lying to investigators in a case in which there was no underlying crime.

We also must keep in mind how the Special Counsel came to be.  Mueller was named after Comey had improperly and potentially illegally leaked selective FBI information to a friend – who, in turn, was to leak it to the partisan compromised New York Times.  We know the purpose of that leak because Comey, himself, told us.  In testifying before Congress, Comey said he leaked the information to force the appointment of a Special Counsel.

No … all this is not just conspiracy theory.  It is evidence of a possible high-level criminal conspiracy.  What facts we have – and the motivations we know – clearly show a coordinated strategic effort to damage and destroy the Trump presidency.  Even if you believe the case is not conclusive, it is impossible to argue that there is not sufficient evidence to warrant a broad investigation.  More evidence of misconduct and potential crimes have already surfaced in terms of an anti-Trump conspiracy than any real evidence that justified the intense Mueller investigation of Trump.  Keep in mind that this is NOT about Russian interference in the election.  That is a completely separate issue even though Democrats and the media work hard to conflate those two issues.

We do not need to wonder if there was a conspiracy to “get” Trump.  That is already obvious.  The Democrats and the media have been conspiring for the past four years in producing a never-ending flow of political narratives to undermine and defeat Trump and the conservative Republican agenda.  What we need to now find out is how broad, how deep, and how high it went.  We need to know who was all in on it – and if crimes were committed.  Was all this just an enormous political backlash by the left – or was it a CRIMINAL conspiracy and unprecedented abuse of powers?  Special Counsel John H. Durham is currently investigating those very questions.  It will be interesting to see what he finds.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.

10 Comments

  1. Jack Schiht

    Bush Boy Barr and Bull Durham will find NOTHING, of course. Oh, maybe the mail clerk will get admonished for trying to bring down an administration, but, they will find, that no one at the highest levels had any idea at all that someone was trying to get Trump removed from office.

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    • Larry Horist

      Wrong. There is enough hard evidence that Comey’s FBI was doing just that. He admitted to leaking information to get a Special Counsel named. Why did he want Trump investigated on the bogus Russian collusion bs if not to get him impeached and removed. What was Peter Strzok’s “insurance plan” against Trump that he said “we” have. Who is the “we?” As more comes out, it seems to prove that the entire narrative of Trump colluding with Russia was made up and advanced to get him removed. Why else to you create phony evidence and then use it to investigate a crime you know was never committed. I would love to see this put into a court of law where rules of evidence prevail … and the entire situation can be adjudicated.

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  2. steve dircks

    it would be nice if they find that they did stuff and prosecute them to the fullest let’s drain the swamp!

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  3. Carl West

    The coronavirus patent number is United States Patent 20170216427. This is the real conspiracy that is happening. They are trying to bypass President Trumps term in office. By creating a phony pandemic. The flu is many many many times more deadly than the coronavirus. But they don’t call the flu a pandemic which means there is more at play here. They have microchips that are smaller than a grain of sand. They will put the microchip in the vaccine and make it mandatory to get the vaccine. Once the microchip is injected into your bloodstream there is no way to remove it. After that everyone in the world will be a slave and under their complete control. Because they will do away with paper money and when you want to buy something then you will just swipe your microchip. If you refuse to do exactly what they say then they will just turn off your microchip. Then you will lose the ability to buy anything making everyone in the entire world slaves. They will have total and complete control over everyone because they will shut your microchip off to make you do everything they say. They want one world government it’s called New World Order. Once everyone is microchipped it won’t matter if President Trump is the President or not because they will have just taken over the world by microchipping the entire worlds population. Thus bypassing Trumps presidency because who ever can turn the microchips on and off holds the power. So after that Trumps presidency will be irrelevant. Giving them complete control over the entire worlds population to making them slaves that can be made to do anything that they can dream up in their devious little minds. It will be the worst act of slavery the world has ever seen with the democrats having complete control to make the world population do anything and I do mean anything they can dream up. Complete control over the world complete and utter world domination.

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    • Knock Knock

      Where’s my OMG emoji? You do realize you sound crazy, right?

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      • Rene Stover

        I have studied, lobbied in, and worked in the field of electronics since I was 14 years old, I have a degree in Electronics Technology, taken trade journals, magazines, and I have had an FCC License, am a Internationally Certified Electronics Technician, and still at 77 years old keep up with what is developing in the field. I not only know that what Carl West says is possible, but is absolutely correct! Ever since 2001, I have been reading books on the subject of what Carl is talking about, and researching stories, events, and factual history, there is very little conspiracy theory, except what comes from the controlled opposition to the truth, the truth is the truth, and the fact that there has been a conspiracy to take control of everything on earth, and possibly then some is an actual conspiracy and has been since the early 1770s!

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  4. Mike

    There are any number of things in your discussion that must be challenged. First off, you describe the call to the Russian ambassador as “perfectly legal and appropriate”. Since republicans describe trump’s call to Ukraine in the same terms, maybe that is just conservative misunderstanding, but in fact, undermining current government policy with an adversary does not meet that requirement. The overall premise of your article seems to be that comey was a never Trumper, and therefore subject to do things against trump. Since it is likely trump would not have been elected were it not for the actions of comey with regard to Clinton, I believe that is an unlikely premise. However, it would appear that after working with trump for a few short months, he became disillusioned with his bombastic style, and decided to expose what he had seen of it to the American people. You indicate that the allegations against Flynn were made to damage trump, however you forget that Obama had fired Flynn years before and warned trump not to use him in November. A much more likely scenario would be the Obama Administration simply did not believe Flynn should be security advisor, rather than a nefarious goal to undermine trump. You then mention that the “insurance plan discussion” was made regarding then president-elect trump-wrong, that email discussion occurred in August, well before the election. Next you argue that if everyone knew that Flynn was talking to the ambassador, why did they need to unmask him? To that I respond-if that is true, why the issue with unmasking? You try to make some sort of equivalence between the Clinton campaign dealing with Steele and potential trump dealing with Russia. There is no equivalence, one is an individual (allowed), the other a government (not allowed). Finally, you make what in my mind is an irrational assumption about why comey briefed trump about the dossier, I hardly think it was to intimidate him, more logical was he didn’t want to be seen as providing information to the current president without providing information to the president elect. So there tis, a more logical description of events than you provided..

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  5. Jeanette Kelley

    Mr. Horist laid out a very good case with facts that actually
    took place. Anyone with half a brain from the start could
    see what this was all about. LIE, CHEAT and make up
    anything that would damage a Dually Elected President!

    He Beat that LYING, DISGUSTING HILLARY ROTTEN
    CLINTON FAIRLY, and the PROPAGANDA DEMOCRATIC
    MEDIA/LEFTIST just could not handle it!

    All these “So Called Americans” replying with their
    defense of this ILLEGAL ACTIVITY DONE by the
    HIGHEST OFFICIALS IN OUR GOVERNMENT should
    really search their SOULS! This could happen to anyone
    of you!

    How would they have all felt if this was done to their
    PRECIOUS ANTI AMERICAN PRESIDENT OBAMA???

    Thank you Mr. Horist for putting forth the TRUTH regardless.

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  6. RF HORKA

    VOTE RED & PRAY
    the commies/dems are coming !!

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  7. Eli

    The conspiracy article by Larry Hoist was 2 months ago, but I’m responding to his comments on Obama. I will relate information from reports and books, that I’ve read. Obama was not a “secret” Muslim, since he “boldly” let followers know of his allegiance to Islam in his books. He said, “if the political winds should shift, he would always stand with the Muslims”. He used his Muslim name, Barack, versus his English name Barry, which shows his loyalty, as revealed by an old associate. Obama shared in his book about his Muslim heritage, and his grandmother died, just before she was able to reveal information on his history. I think, he swore into the presidency on the Quran, (Koran), which is the book he studied in Indonesia, as a young child. He may have lived with his dad, who may have been a Muslim and… Communist?? His family and half brother, had lived in Kenya, during his presidential term, and there was a movie out to clarify Obama’s position on Socialism. We were warned from people in Kenya, that they would use the race card to manipulate for money and power, as BLM is doing now. He recently shared his view on the 2020 uprisings, as a revolution “to get things done.” He was clear with his protection of Muslims and stood with Iran over Israel, which was opposite to America’s past involvement in the Middle East. He was financed by Muslims, and his friend Valerie Jarrett, may have been from an Iranian-American heritage. He allowed Achmadinejad(sp) to speak in his financial manager’s, family hotel, the same time as the debate, while many Jews protested. So there wasn’t a conspiracy to hide his past, but a conspiracy, perhaps, by the Clinton Foundation to use payola foreign funds. It seems that with Joe Biden’s charity and the Clinton’s foundation, a large portion goes to executives salaries, and little to the cause. Hillary had a Muslim associate, and they seem to have tied America, quite strongly, with Communist China and Islamic nations. A 2015, video shows, the BLM co-founder, Patrisse Cullor, proudly shares, she is a Marxist trained organizer. Obama and his friend , Bill Ayers were associated in the same manner. From 2012-2016, the Socialist Democrats with Obama and Hillary Clinton formed stronger ties with Communist China. There’s a lot behind these issues with the BLM and our Muslim Democrat Squad.

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