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Trump’s election will be the end of the world

Trump’s election will be the end of the world

The headline is not a figurative statement, but a literal one. I offer that prediction after seeing the latest round of Democrat leftwing narratives describing their Draconian theoretical aftermath of a Trump victory. 

The Democrat/media combine launched the anti-Trump resistance movement within 24 hours of his 2016 upset election – which particularly upset Hillary Clinton and the Democrat/media combine.  Their mantra was “never normalize Trump” – and they have adhered to that calling.

However, their strategic narrative has been getting more bizarre and more extreme as time goes by.  They elevated a riot on Capitol Hill to the level of an insurrection, and even a coup attempt.  The narratives suggest that the American Republic was on the precipice of collapse when in fact the foundations and pillars of our democracy were under no threat at all.  The only significant result of the riot in terms of the functions of government was a few hours delay in the certification of the election.

Following January 6, 2021, Democrats have been proffering the narrative of some nationwide underground force is at the ready to rise and overthrow the government to make Trump president-for-life.  They warned of violence at the Capitol and around the country on the first anniversary of the riot.  The National Guard was called out.  Barricades were erected around the Capitol Building.  Nothing – as in nothing – happened.  Unless you count the 150 people who showed up on the Capitol grounds with a permit – gave some speeches and left after an hour or so. 

For months they advanced the narrative that Trump would refuse to leave office.  No matter what you think of his efforts to turn around the election results, he did not make any attempt to remain after the Biden inauguration. 

As Democrats get more nervous about defeating Trump a second time, their mendacious narratives are getting nuttier and nuttier.  They have currently whipped themselves into a frenzy in trying to convince the American people – especially the Trump voters – that returning him to the Oval Office will literally be the end of the Republic.  The end of American democracy.  Once in office, they say Trump will never leave after his second term. In raising that canard again, they are obviously following the old “If at first you don’t succeed …” approach.

Since at least half the American public are not buying the insurrection and coup attempt arguments – and not even dissuaded by all those court cases — Democrats and their media cronies are going to the next level of hyperbolic bullcrap.  The legal and constitutional reelection of Trump — according to them – would be the end of democracy, the fall of the American Republic.  In one fell swoop, we will turn into a fascist dictatorship. 

According to Canadian Journalist David Frum – appearing on MSNBC’s Joy Reid show — Trump’s election would be the collapse of constitutional government.  It would lead to social unrest, rioting in the streets.  Trump would use the power of the presidency to rule by edict … arrest political enemies … shutdown media outlets … unleash an army of armed thugs on the population.  He would not leave office at the end of the term, and there would be no ability to force him to leave.  These are actual things Frum and others on the left are claiming as if they are facts.

Liz Cheney goes fo far as to say that if Trump is elected by the democratic vote of the people, there will not be another election.  Trump will seize power.  She is actually peddling that nonsense at every stop on her book tour.

The New York Times, the Washington Post and the Atlantic Magazine are all carrying articles and editorials on this latest nutty leftwing narrative. They claim Trump’s return to the White House would be an existential threat to America.  Actually, more than a threat.  They proffer it as a certainty.  And these articles are being regurgitated by MSNBC and CNN — and others in the Manhattan radical left media silo.

All this fearmongering and hysteria and the election is 11 months off.  Now you can see why I facetiously suggested that the next level will be an end of the world political apocalypse – Armageddon — if Trump wins the 2024 presidential election.  After all, their angst and anxiety level is not going to simmer down between now and then – and it is not likely that this end-of-democracy rhetoric is going to work any better than all the crap that they have been slinging at Trump for the past seven years.

As I often point out, elections are won or lost depending on what the voters decided to decide on.  What will concern them most when they start marking their ballots?

Not long ago, Democrat strategists were advising that Biden should NOT focus on Trump, but rather his own accomplishments – what he has done for the American people.  So, Biden talked a lot about jobs and the wonderful economy he delivered to the American people.  He even branded this strategy with “Bidenomics.”  That turned out to be the Edsel or New Coke of American politics.

Since the American people were not feeling his economic euphoria — and since the crime, immigration, world leadership and the age/Harris issues hang over his campaign like the Sword of Damocles – team Biden has little choice but to return to the Trump strategy. 

That was evident in Biden’s pathetic plea, “Don’t compare me to the Almighty, but to the alternative.”  Suggesting that he is at least better than a guy he views as an evil and contemptable human being with ninety-one indictments does not come across as high praise. 

So … what is left for Biden and Democrats to campaign on?  Trump.  It is a desperate last-ditch strategy.  It is not a good one – since all the vilification and legal actions have not only not crushed Trump, but they seem to have actually put air under his wings.

That means the strategy must be upgraded.  They have to take the Trump boogeyman approach to astro heights – as they have been doing.  Since the end-of-the-Republic strategy does not seem to be working, they will have to try something even more extreme and nuttier.  I am not sure where they can take it from their current outlandish narrative, so I suggest they will have to try an end-of the-world strategy.

Ironically, Biden & Company may have had the winner strategy a couple years ago.  And that was to ignore Trump and focus on selling their best issues – such as abortion and jobs.  If Biden has any winning issues – and he may not – abortion and jobs are at least his best bet.

Instead, they went on a hate-filled attack on Trump.  And as I – and other writers – have suggested, the attacks on Trump were the primary reasons for his rise in the polls.  They actually made a beleaguered Trump viable again. In response, they increased the attacks with ridiculous speculative narratives about the end of the American experiment in democracy.  And Trump seems to  be benefitting again.

The people know better.  America is an exceptionally durable Republic.  We have strong institutions that provide a balance of powers.  We have a people devoted to the constitutional Republic.  No President can overpower all of that. 

They claim he will appoint dangerous cronies to the Cabinet and other positions.  They ignore the fact that the Senate has to confirm his picks.  He can appoint federal judges and U.S. Attorneys around country, but they, too, need the approval of Congress.  He would not control the Supreme Court or compromise its role of interpreting and upholding the Constitution. 

What we are hearing from Biden and those on the left is nothing more than concocted political narratives designed to scare voters.  That is what political parties do.  What makes this different is how extreme and nutty the narratives have become.  The anti-Trump folks cannot abide by the fact that he beat them in 2016 – and could beat them again. 

All those folks in fly-over America — who the east coast progressive elites do not understand and do not like – are not obsessed with the evil Trump mantra.  They are concerned about the issues that impact on them – inflation and crime.  They are not fond of Biden for many reasons – and they really do not like Vice President Harris.  That makes the age issue a twofer.  Biden is too old to do the job – and the thought that it will fall to Harris is frightening – even to a lot of Democrats.  Perhaps, when all is said and done, it will be the age issue that is paramount in the minds of the voters as they cast their ballots.

What the anti-Trump folks fail to realize is that their exaggerated descriptions of Trump are backfiring with the voters.  Instead of gaining support, Biden is losing credibility.  If all that Biden has is a pitiful claim that at best he is at least better than Trump, he has nothing – and he will lose.

So, there ‘tis.

About The Author

Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.


  1. Jim wampler

    Trump will be the end of the commiecrats

  2. Frank stetson

    Sure sounds like an apocalypse to me.

    Guess he gets Larry. Reafs his mind.

    Silence equals enablement.

    • Joe

      Trump has already violated the Constitution why do we need him now? He is not getting my vote

      • Jim wampler

        So vote for retard joe you dumb prick.

  3. frank Stetson

    Trump pussies out of testifying in his own defense in NY trial. He couldn’t sit near the court clerk he bashed and tell his story, his truth, so he just wimped out and just said no, I won’t go, I am chickenshit to be under oath.

    Still some testimony wrap up, but black today because Trump go way. Probably a few weeks out from a decision. Decision and remedies then with the only question: how much of the Trump brand will be diminished. Trump paid, well you supporters paid, one expert $1M for a few months work in this case. Half paid by one SuperPAC, your money.

    Next month, Trump having been found liable in his SECOND EJ Carroll defamation case, will face the judge to hear his penalty. The first round netted her close to $3M and since Trump continued to defame, it’s expected this penalty with be north of that. Around January 15th.

    Some businessman.

    In March, the DC trial starts. It’s a big one. It will be wild. Stand up, stand ready, donate today, give as much as you can. Law and order comes to Trump. Big time.

    It IS the END OF THE WORLD as you know it. Live it. Love it. But get over it and move on. Try a better path, maybe something Reagan-esque next time. You have been lied to. Smell the coffee. Have you seen the saucers?

    “Have you seen our saucers?
    Star children on the black road to salvation;
    You’ve got to care for the needs of your planet;
    Children of the forest and child of the Woodstock nation;
    Catch the dawn that once was there;
    First born atomic generation;
    Open the door,
    Don’t you know that’s what it’s for?
    Come on and join us,
    On the other side of the sun.”

    Paul Kanter, God rest his soul

    • Dan tyree

      Why should he? It’s just a witch hunt by low life dumbasscrats

      • TONY


    • Charles Covington

      Frank doucheback blowhard stetson, we love crooked corrup joe but we hate the best President in my 76 yr life span, That his why i label you as a mere fool.

      • Robert Richey

        I ditto your remark about the best President in your 76-year lifespan but my life-span is 82 years. I’m waiting for some brilliant liberal if there is such an animal to explain exactly what an insurrection is.

        • frank Stetson

          Richard, your request for an insurrection definition seems to be bait tossed out for some arcane reason. Certainly, you must be capable of this task but has some other motive to ask the question. Can’t wait to see that because I find it interesting that you reach out to a liberal for help.

          Obviously, you desire the legal definition versus dictionary, like Oxford, which states: “a situation in which a large group of people try to take political control of their own country with violence synonym uprising an armed insurrection against the regime” which seems to fit 2,000 people shutting down the election process and stopping the work of Congress in it’s tracks for six hours. So here it is:

          18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection
          Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
          (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

          But wait, there’s more as in close consideration when talking insurrection.

          18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
          If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
          (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

          18 U.S.C. 2383 – explained by lawyers. Insurrection refers to acts of violence, but it’s not the only charge that could apply. Seditious conspiracy, for example, is an effort to overthrow the United States government. People can be charged with sedition and conspiracy even if they never carry out the planned violence.

          Due to the vagaries of the legal definition, one can see why DOJ went for seditious conspiracy which was adjudicated as valid in a court of law resulting, so far, in six convictions and a max combined time of102 years in prison with the max being up to 22 years. Ask them what insurrection means to them is but the court concluded: “in the months leading up to Jan. 6, the defendants plotted to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power, and to prevent the Members of Congress, and the federal law enforcement officers who protect them, from discharging their duties.”

          More important: do you believe that when Donald J. Trump sent the hoard to the Capitol after screaming fight, fight, fight over 20 times in the rally while his minions from the stage yelled “this is war,” that his watching on TV, munching burgers, tossing a few at the wall in down moments, and not responding to the multitude of pleas from his own party as well as Democrats and DID NOTHING for over three hours —- do you really believe that’s a President defending his nation from all threats, foreign and domestic? Is that really your guy?

          I know, Biden, Obama, and she-who-was-never-President are far, far worse in you mind, but ….. really, that’s what you want some more of?

  4. Darren

    As I always say, Democrat’s are Low information Voters and the party relies on the uneducated
    that can be swain into believing about anything. ( The View )
    It is not that media such as CNN tell lies about Trump, its deplorable that they do not tell the truth about Biden!
    I use deplorable because their Queen uses that word.
    Yes Larry, to anyone else in the world this would be the same as saying the Royal Family has the power to fly and
    most of their country believes it.
    We would look at them like they are crazy.
    Freedom of the press is essential, but when is anyone held accountable!

  5. Tom

    Larry, You may be correct when you say, “Their mantra was “never normalize Trump” – and they have adhered to that calling.” What amazes me is how Trump (for supposedly being so intelligent) played right into the Dem narrative. He seems to have maintained the mantra that he is never normal – and allowed his narcissism to be center stage.

    I do not believe the Dem hype but I do believe that a Trump style of government will at times be less democratic and more authoritarian – as he has a soft warm fuzzy feeling and admiration for all such types like Putin, Xi, Ung. And he did try to stop a legal function of government to certify the people’s vote – we did not ask him to stop the certification, he did that all on his own. And then he would never commit to leaving peacefully. And he did, on his own without the people asking, attempt to blow up NATO – which even Putin stated in a speech that he does not worry about NATO because Trump is doing a good job at disassembling it himself. And without the people asking he has already stated he will use the DOJ to go after his enemies. And he did make many enemies in the UN, albeit some of them would have been enemies anyway. He did piss off the EEU and Merkel without us asking him to do this.

    Trump was elected as a populist under the impression that he would straighten out the ills of this country in a sensible and fair fashion. He was not elected to cozy up to dictators and KKK, blow up international relations, and skyrocket national debt that your’s, mine, and Frank’s grandchildren will struggle to pay off.

    I think what the Dems/Left are eluding too, and you have not talked about it at all (not sure why) is that Trump would be in his second term – and would not have to be concerned about being re-elected. They fear (as in some cases this Independent does too) his use of unrestricted power combined with a following of fearful suck up Republicans – similar to Germany’s past. They fear his penchant for “retribution” which he has made the centerpiece of his public messages since he lost. I doubt that he would seize power permanently – that is pure hype in my book. But I do believe he will entertain the thought before realizing that will be hard to do and a bridge to far. I seem to recall one of his morons did suggest to him to seize power and bring in the military – but he did refuse the suggestion. And lets face it, it will be a bad four years for cheeseburgers across America if the Dems control the house and senate. Gridlock, a Trump in Dem handcuffs (maybe silk) might be our best hope!!! Either way, Trump handcuffed by Dems or Biden handcuffed by Repubs – now assess which might be better. I think Biden handcuffed by Repubs would be better and finally remove Trump with little harm to our great institution.

    Yes I agree, abortion and jobs are in Biden’s corner. But so are international relations with our friends even though the GOP likes to point to leadership weakness and this will have some impact – but Americans will have to way the peace through strength attitude of the GOP. Also, he can get inflation under control and prices back down with some policy reversals. I do agree that Dems might have awakened a monster by attacking Trump instead of attacking issues with better policy. But as far as hate filled attacks, I think the GOP has issued just as many hate filled attacks on Biden and his age, mental status, etc. By the way, there was an interesting article about all of the miscues Trump has been making the last couple of years and that his mental capacity has slipped as well.

    Your best point is Harris. I think about 70% of voters do not like her and are scared of Biden dying in office leaving it all to Harris. But with both houses of Congress being GOP that would keep her in check. Again, best thing for this country is to realize that neither man is good for the Republic and that we need two new choices. **

    • larry Horist

      Tom … You are spot on in saying that Trump provided all the ammo Dems need to make their excesses seem credible. I have written several commentaries on that subject. I always believed he had an opportunity to be on of the better presidents, but blew it by being so pugnacious. He thrives on controversy, so he creates it.

      I agree that he is self-centered, but I do not see him as a dangerous dictator who will end American democracy. I think the frustration of seeing him doing so well with all the crap they have thrown at him had made the Democrats crazy. They want the people to take up their view of Trump and the world and think those who do not are cultists, democracy haters. etc. All nonsense.

      I think Biden has problem with job creation. Most of those he takes credit for were workers returning after Covid.

      I do not believe the public is seeing Biden as a great international leader. I think that is hometown cheerleading. I give him little credit for uniting NATO over Ukraine. Putin did that. Most allied world leaders disagreed with his surrender in Afghanistan. His too little/too late policy with Ukraine shows weakness. His backing Israel while blaming them for “too many civilian deaths” is wishy-washy stuff.

      Yes,, Biden has been attacked. But I think concerns about age and vitality are legit. I just finished a commentary on that subject.

      • Tom

        Larry, I do not see Trump as a dangerous dictator either, that is hype in my view. I think we have systems and institutions in place that would stop him. I do think he will be dangerously divisive. Yes age is a very legitimate concern, and apparently for both. Trump is starting to slow too. And some folks are keeping track of his slips as well. Yes, Putin and the sudden feeling of urgency for NATO nations to act like a real organization and come together for the common protections/fear of being next did help Biden coalesce NATO countries again. Despite the help, I still think Biden is a better statesman than Trump. Trump knows bully. Biden has more finesse. Putin did brag in one of his speeches that Trump was doing a great job at dismantling NATO for him. He even chuckled about it. I get concerned when Putin chuckles!

        • larry Horist

          Tom … I believe that the left is creating a beneficial backlash for Trump with all this “end of democracy” crap. I completely disregard anything coming out of Russia vis a vis Trump. If Putin really wanted Trump, he is smart enough not to praise him. I think Biden is a more traditional statesman than Trump, but I think Trump accomplished more good. With every American adversary becoming more aggressive, I think Biden’s foreign policy is a disaster.

  6. andy

    Enter Donald Trump, the political equivalent of The Little Boy Who Said The Emperor Has No Clothes. Trump attacked neoliberal policies of both parties, although never directly using the word “neoliberal.”

    Free trade, he said, had been a disaster for American workers. And voters knew he was right.

    Rich people were gaming the tax system — he knew, he told us, because he did it, too — and he was going to put an end to that. Americans wanted tax fairness, and when Trump said his rich friends “will hate me” because he was going to raise their taxes so much, voters believed him.

    And austerity had not only not ended crime but was driving working class people into the poorhouse. Nobody, Trump proclaimed, would be a better friend to Social Security, Medicare, housing supports and other entitlement programs that supported the poor and middle class alike than him.

    Most of his solutions were lies, of course, but the American people wanted to believe that this reality TV star and billionaire was just the savior America needed.

    To top it off, Trump spoke what many white people considered “politically incorrect truths” about race and immigration. “They” were stealing your job and threatening to rape your wives and daughters, Trump told white Americans, and he was just the guy tough enough to deal with “them.”

    Outside of tearing a few thousand brown-skinned children away from their parents and symbolic tariffs on Chinese products that backfired badly, Trump couldn’t pull any of it off. He was as much a follower of neoliberal ideology as any American president since Reagan, his rhetoric aside.

    So Americans, still wanting to get rid of neoliberalism, decided to try the Democrats again in 2020, giving that party control of the House, Senate and White House.

  7. vladimir

    god created his globalists and all his globalist puppets to create gods hell on earth for all good people and god continues to bless his globalists and all his globalist puppets; soros, chester biden crime family, zelensky crime family, demonrat criminal party, rino criminal party, criminal media, altar boy raping demonrat priests and all gods CRIMINAL organizations; doj, fbi, cdc, irs, usps, ss, cia, atf, fema, hud, tsa, fema, fda, fcc, un, nato etc .

  8. AC

    There you go again. The real wait and power behind use of great words like “mendacity” and “mendacious” is suffering with repeated ill placement. Another great word routinely mis-employed is “hyperbolic”. However, hyperbolic is an apt description for your depiction drawn of Democrats in broad brush strokes and Biden/Harris in particular.
    Of fear mongering, in the role of a monger how are you not all together projecting? It is almost comedic, as FOX Entertainment is more to be laughed at than believed.
    From History’s first fumbling attempts at amicable consensus disagreements developed into divisions. Later these splits were given a term, schisms. Boiled down to its essentials, whenever 2 or 3 are gathered is politics found. 1 on 1, each with an individual opinion. Many times their opinions do not align. What then? Negotiate a mediation plan agreeing to disagree? As both understand that they are mutually interdependent for survival and possibly even betterment shared .
    But, add another and life becomes complicate. 3 individuals each occupying their own place and opinion. Their not always agreeing on critical subjects threatens survival, corporately and individually. Ultimately. the 3 envision their few in time becoming the many. Each individual carries an opinion, possibly one that is unique. Others’ opinions may generally identify with one philosophy in life out of a number available at that time.
    Again, survival is paramount in people’s minds. When just the 2 and 3 persons talked survival they brought it up as a real subject and fact. With more and more people survival could no longer stay a subject. It required special consideration like that given immediate issues; food, water, housing, security, and health.
    Those founding few of 3 envisioned a governance system was required. In it they saw prescriptions were in order for preservation of peace between individuals and their often opposing opinions.
    Understood was the one tenant and corner stone on which peace would be possible is unilateral equality across all of the people.
    In that regard each person considered they had an equal say on subjects and issues of the day.
    The founding few of 3 discerned that a true people’s governance being founded on equality of the individual as to rights ensured. Rights allowing freedoms in society for every person. One’s goals reaching achievement in society was to be determined by personal attributes, gifts. talents, abilities, and skills. The individuals relative prominence in society relies on abilities melding with a development in character, ethics. morality, and integrity. Sadly, examples of seeming success in society do exist. However, because success in some instances becomes caught up short and lost. The person is seen a fraud lacking any footing in good character and a contributor in society at large.
    The democratic form, out of all other government types conceived by humans, has the elements that worked together in true concert can establish the closest rule to the goal, equal treatment assured all people subjects.
    Larry, assumptions made in this piece, as well as those you stand by in comments previously aired, are covered by your right of speech. But in no way is what you opine in this space factually true.
    Contending that you are just using readily available information, facts one with sufficient mental acuity would see and surmise the same outcome as you, that it adds up in no other way, is textbook arrogance on par with dictatorial bullying
    I realize, this a good and free country, I can elect not to partake in your jaded diatribes that fly in the face of your professing knowledge and use of the basics taught to would be journalists. That being Critical Thinking. Which is the single most important element serious writers intent on inclusion in the esteemed club whose members are credentialed journalist.
    Publishing facts as actual truth within the appropriate context leaving out no details.
    Difficult as the truth is for those who would rather conjure up another tale. Their story a version of happenings skewed awkwardly to satisfy an opposing agend.
    Whatever is ahead for Mr. Trump, for himself or the country, is all of his own making. If he is found guilty in any of his legal matters. he has no one but himself in blame’s way. Rant as he will, justice will out, win or loose. Should a case go before SCOTUS, we shall see. Depends on in what temperament of the day the justices show up.
    As the country voted in ‘16 and ‘20, so it will in ‘24 on candidates up and down their ballot. It is of limited difference to the country who actually wins in ‘24. This election season has no hope for this country’s unification. Different scenarios will be present depending on the outcome, neither will be an affirmation in the founders’ hopes and dreams for America under democratic government rule.
    A house divided cannot stand! Here we are. What will you and I contribute with our particular legacies as of . And, will the decade that lays ahead change the legacy in its tone, positive or negative advice.

  9. frank Stetson

    Liz Cheney
    At some level, I just love seeing folks like Horist eat their own, demean their own team. These guys are either in the Trump rowboat pulling on the oars in Trump’s direction or there must be retribution. In or out, diverse ideas must be put down, punished, penalized. Even McCarthy must go.
    Liz did what she did because she thinks the Constitution is more important than party. She believes the oath of office matters. Others agreed with that on 1.6.2021 and then changed their mind
    pledging fealty to the dictator who attempted to stop the election process, install his fake electors, and STEAL the vote. Only Pence stopped him and Cheney went after him for abandoning his oath of office. Think about it: he watched what he did for over three hours and did absolutely nothing about it except toss some burgers at the wall….. Over three hours. Defend the land against all attacks, foreign or domestic.
    If you look at her actions, her votes, she is a conservative, siding with Trump on about 90% of his votes, and disagreeing about a dozen times.
    Liz Cheney will never be a Democrat or will never be appreciated by the Democratic party. If she did turn liberal, or even moderate, everything she said about why she did what she did is a lie.
    It’s just that Cheney is a true hard right conservative of the Cheney ilk, and that will never fly with Democrats
    For what she did, and she knew it all along, she is tossed from the Republican party paying a heavy price for her principles.
    Donald J. Trump is already held liable as a convicted sex abusing digital rapist and criminally charged in business fraud multiple times while having four criminal indictments covering over 90 charges. That is his candidacy. That and revenge and retribution against all of the vermin. His lawyers have already plead guilty and will testify about him trying to rig the 2020 election. Meadows has flipped at least for the DC case where he is accused of defrauding the electorate. But wait, there’s more and it’s pretty hard to believe he will flake out of 91 criminal charges. That is your President.
    Last time around you promised he would pivot, he would become more Presidential. It did not happen. This time, he will begin where 1.6.2021 left off; the first actions of retribution but then to stay in office forever just like all the strongmen he admires in his bromances, colloquially speaking of course :>😊
    He has stated he wants retribution; he wants revenge. I believe him and what he does not say he wants: justice, law, and order. He will start with his list. If successful, he will continue downward. And, if really successful, he will build an infrastructure of people who love this kind of work, who are good at it, and then we will have real troubles, right here in river city. Ask the 1,000 kids who still have not been reunited with their parents what it is like to be on the bad end of the Trump retribution stick. Five years without their parents and counting. Ask the poor Geogia poll election workers who had to go into hiding like many who talked against Trump. The man is still hunting Obama for that Correspondent’s Dinner slight roasting in April of 2016. It’s not politics, it’s not business, it’s personal.
    At some point it’s got to be about more than the policies. Liz said that, she stands for it, and you just have to admire her standing up when so many others stood down. Horist included. As we get closer to November, as long as the sky don’t fall in terms of economy, war, etc, and the choice become more and more clear, good luck with holding the vote of the young, the women, minorities, the cities, suburbia, whatever. You may hold the South and some of the Midwest, but it will not be enough.
    So keep eating your own, Ryan, Romney, Kinzinger, Cheney, now McCarthy, it’s all good for me. Of course, what about that Horist — he said bad, bad things about Trump’s personality — can he be trusted? :>) good luck. I will probably go before Horist.

  10. AC

    Could happen during the next president’s term. But if Trump wins and if afterwards the end of the world apocalypse comes, the end of the world happening will be entirely coincidental.
    As terribly unfortunate as Trump was for this country during the four years ending January 2021. Enduring four more years of Trump with his abundantly warped character and countless personality flaws in full view to all will most definitely surpass the merely unfortunate. He set our country back at least one decade. Given four more years his just inhabiting the White House is sure to reverse gains made since Trump moved out taking sensitive document records he had staff pack into nondescript boxes.
    There is no way possible another term with Trump as president can be great for this country. If any positive change may come from a Trump presidency that would be his most MAGA propagandized and truth denying proponents finally realize the man is a consummate fraud who believes laws do not apply to him.
    If one believes Trump winning again will not have great adverse affects at all levels in America, domestic and international, economy and military, social and psychological, democracy and political . The consequences will have a stultifying impact.
    The chaos seen to date since the GOP gained the slightest majority in the HR is proof of incompetence in facts seen. And, a bleak foreshadowing in real time what would befall our nation’s government
    Mr Horist’s full confidence with its contradictory assumptions alluding to an optimistic pessimism concerning another Trump presidency has predictability. His anti-Democrat (so called left) strident attacks are a constant tirade. How it it possible that a whole range of subjects Larry opines on in his commentaries must regurgitate some assumed affront Democrat perpetuated by his account.
    Assuredly, Larry, you do protest too much.
    What credulity is achieved through repeatedly hauling out old partisan grudges? This rhetoric smacks of hatred. Regardless of previous statements professing no hate toward anyone.
    At the end of the day, on this may the majority agree. Should Trump resume where he left off in the White House. His ascendency, as problematic as he would be, Could in no way bring on the end of the world prophecy. Larry’s word choice while assembling this title shows a misguided comedic attempt at hyperbole while mockingly taking a swipe at Democrats. Again, Larry, your obsession with Democrats’ and some philosophical notion relating Trump causing America’s demise, if not the world as we know it, amounts to a pile of buffalo chips stirred into a stinky pie.

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    which of the world apocalypse comes

  11. AC

    Larry, there you go again expounding on and on about your mythical perceptions regarding Biden, Democrat Party, and democrats generally.
    Apparently, you can see but little only red with projecting of emotions and override objectivity where you see Biden and Democrats messing with our socio-political landscape.
    Clearly, you are anti all things you perceive are rooted in your estimation that liberalism with progressive overtones equate to evil..
    So. many commentaries posted with your name begin with “BIDEN …” . Attention grabbing, maybe. However, PBP readers know what is bound to follow. it’s another Biden bashing commentary in the succession of such political context less muck that reviles the democratic ideals outright.
    it’s not some mythical caricature drawn of one Larry Horist the opinion commentator as you contest others with. What truly is the case, we have one who glories in portraying himself with superior attributes bar none. So, if he had been and was now POTUS (World King), this country would be in a better place. No doubt, the world, definitely, could benefit from
    Horist’s Making America Great Again. Whew, what ifs and could a, would a, and should a regrets must haunt you, daily.

    • larry Horist

      AC … Give it up. You are not even writing rationally. More and more of your writing makes no sense at all. I do not mean as an opinion, but not readable. And you follow in Frank’s footsteps of be obsessed with me and your own ignorant version of an imaginary Larry Horist. You both claims I am myopically critical of democrats. You guys as so obsessed with anti-Larry-ism that you cannot recall my commentaries critical of Republicans — and Republican policies. Of Trump and some of his policies. As with Frank, I am flattered by your attentions, but not impressed by you knowledge or cognitive skills. While Frank rants, you ramble and rant. Damn few read what you write — and no one really cares. But if it fills a void in your life … be my guest.

      • Frank stetson

        Wow, so defensive. So bugged. Such a debbie downer. You talk about me all the time. Everywhere. To Tom, Mike, Andy and others. Bet you talk about me at dinner. .

        I have told you before, quit the personal stuff. I don’t mind, but my virtual self feels obliged to respond.

        Release the Kraken!

        Something smells fishy round here. Must be a pisces working for scale….

        • larry Horist

          Frank stetson … I rarely talk about you, while you talk about me incessantly — and always negatively. You mostly talk about me as if you are some sort of critic speaking to an audience. You seem to have a narcissistic view of your intelligence, writing ability and wit — claiming to BUST others with differing opinions. The personal bragging suggests you are looking for love. But I get it. You are jealous. You wish you were a real commentator like those of us on PBP. You wish you were seen as a professional paid commentator with a large audience. So you create that world in your mind. The imaginary Larry Horist and the imaginary audience you address your comments to. And you seem to be getting more angry and more unhinged as time goes by. Since you constantly offer your opinion about me and my motivations, I thought it was time to at least give you my general impression of you. Just my opinion. Perhaps it is time to drop the mic on you.

  12. Just Sayin' 2

    I hate the current president, and am looking forward to nature taking its due course to rid us of this hair sniffing…touch feelin child loving a**hole.. communist in chief.