Trump Running as Independent in 2024?
As it is becoming increasingly clear that President Trump is unlikely to win the Republican nomination for President, there ae reports that he is exploring the possibility of running as an independent. That is not likely to get him elected – far from it. He would likely come in a distant third regardless of who the Republican or Democrat standard bearers might be.
There is only one reason for such a venture. Trump would want to punish the political party that denied him the nomination. He would rather see Democrats retain the White House – with all their left-wing policies that he claimed to oppose.
It would be institutionally what he often does on a personal level – turn on allies and supporters who do not yield to his latest demand.
It would be proof that Democrats were correct when they claimed that Trump has no foundational political principles. He would have no fealty to the political party that enabled him to be President of the United States.
Like a political chameleon, Trump took on the mantel of a conservative to blend in with the environment that accommodated his ambition to be President. Fortunately, he did a lot of good things while serving as a conservative Republican – despite the abjectly negative picture painted by Democrats and their media mouthpieces.
Conservatives can commend Trump for the appointments to the Supreme Court – and the lower federal courts. Despite his bellicose rhetoric, he strengthened NATO by getting other member nations to meet their financial obligations. He (Jared Kushner) negotiated the unprecedented Abraham Accords. He got North Korea to stop missile testing and return the remains of American MIAs. He cut a lot of bureaucratic red tape and launched one of the strongest economies in decades. He was building the wall and reducing illegal border crossing. His policies brought economic benefits to America’s inner cities not seen since World War II.
Apart from Trump’s policy of achievements, however, the Republican brand has suffered because of his pugnacious personality. He failed to win a majority of Republican voters in the 2016 GOP primaries. He failed to win the popular vote in 2016 – a year that should have been a Republican tsunami. He lost the House by a wide margin in 2018. He lost the Senate in 2020. And he tamped down the red wave that was heading into the 2020 election. No matter what you think of the 2020 presidential election, Trump is not sitting in the White House today.
Trump’s legacy – his reputation as a conservative President – would be instantly trashed by an independent bid that was openly and blatantly designed to defeat the Republican candidate. If that candidate were to be Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Trump’s toxic tendency for rabid retribution would be even that much more obvious.
Trump could have endured the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” had he not contributed to his own toxicity – and his own declining popularity.
Running as an independent would be his final political act of political masochism. Unfortunately, he would have the potential of destroying the Republican chances of winning the White House. I say “the potential” because I think there is a good chance that running as an independent would not work. The Republican candidate could still win. Votes he would take away from the Republican candidate for President may be offset by independents and even Democrats who would vote Republican to punish and repudiate Trump.
There is another thing that could prevent Trump from winning – or even becoming – an independent candidate. It cannot be done alone. Even an independent candidate needs money … lots of (seasoned) staff … and thousands of campaign workers across the country to get on the ballot. He may have the money, but even that is questionable – and would Trump want to expend such a huge some of his own money on such a losing venture? He is not known for his generosity in that regard – and he will need most of that money to defend himself in all those court cases.
Trump’s only sensible course of action is to set aside his presidential ambitions, deal with his court cases and attempt to refocus public attention on the positive portions of his legacy.
So, there ‘tis.
He was destroyed for standing up for America. Now the ass wipes on the left talk shit about MAGA people. I’m damned proud to be one. What the hell is wrong with standing up for our country? We had a lot fewer problems with Trump in office and our country was safer and richer. More people were working and we didn’t have to worry about our president selling us out like that brain dead piece of shit that’s in the White House now. And vice president cackling bitch is as useless as the nuts on a pope. ( unless alter boys are around). What the fuck does she do except hang around and be a token.
This story is just more mental masturbation, breathless media hype to generate more eyeballs looking at the website. Trump will not be running for anything, except maybe “best face to match the orange jumpsuit” during Wednesday night prison bingo.
Hey Joey. Go find yourself a little boy
Larry can not get enough of this guy. He just can not put him in the rearview.
Even bad news can be good advertising. Keep the faith, brother.
He knows it’s all about the money, the grift, using campaign dollars to fund your lifestyle. Trump’s new brand spin, politics for money. Larry’s free advertising is just change in the cash drawer to Trump.
He never spends his money, he didn’t forgo his Presidential salary, he pocketed 25% of that. His trading cards went right into his pocket, and his campaign coffers are over hundreds of millions even after paying legal bills. In his own name, he has created hundreds of llc’s to “advise and strategize” his efforts. Both he and Pence were paid board members of one; that’s how he keeps Pence quiet, he buys him off. Salaries are undisclosed as is the number of “boards” of his own companies, Don is on. That’s how this grift works. And Don has been creating “advising” companies for years that produce nothing but rack up incredible expenses and losses —— he has done this himself for decades, see the tax releases.
Thanks for the free advertising Larry: cha-ching. Be careful what you don’t ask for :>)
Darn Frank. I agree with much of what you said but I was really looking forward to you listing all of the down sides of Trump. Please consider doing so. I know you have them on the tip of your tongue. 🙂
Mr. Trump won the presidency because the Republican Party couldn’t put up a viable candidate, and then 9% of registered Democrats voted for him because of what the DNC did to Mr. Sanders. Polls show that over a third of registered voters are unaffiliated with either major Party, so just as a random thought, what would happen if they all voted for Trump simply because they were fed up with the other Parties? How would Congress react to a president who was neither of their Parties? Would they reject him, or try to gain his favors for their side of the aisle?
Rat, I am one of those Independent / unaffiliated. The only way I would ever vote for Trump is if there would be if Biden ran again with Harris, GOP ran someone like McCarthy. I think most of us if DeSantis runs would vote for Desantis over Trump. Very few of us would vote Trump because we are sick of his personality. His policies were ok to us, but his personality, narcissism, and packaging of his statements were very poor. If Trump would manage to win, I think it would be a very tough term for him since no GOP or Dem would feel any sense of fealty towards him nor would they bother trying to make his term a success. Trump, in order to have success, would have to become very polished and moderate. I doubt he could do this. I really do not see him having a chance even if he does get on the ballot as an independent, and I do not think he would steal many votes other than the ones he would get from SuperMagas like Larry K who tries hard to imitate Trump’s personality. These folks would never vote for DeSantis anyway. They would most likely stay home and let the Dems take over.
Just another lowbrow hit piece by a moronic marxist to keep Marxists in power.
I agree with you Larry, Trumps policies were ok, but his personality was horrible. I have heard it said that “With Trump, yesterday does not matter, you are only as good as what you are doing for him today.” That is a description of a narcissist put into a Trump theme. I think if Trump tries to go Independent he will have great difficulties such as: Funding, network, venues for rallies might slim down, experts he had will not return, not as much media coverage, may not even get on the debate stage. Any Independent hopes he has are fueled purely by narcissism.
I agree with much of your list of Trump policy successes but there were down sides to Trump and not everything that glitters is gold. But I am going to wait for Frank to mention the downside. Hopefully he will.
TRUMP HAS OUR VOTE, SAD TO SEE HOW THE GOP ARE SUCH A WEAK BACK STABBING BUNCH.MAYBE THEY GROW SOMW BALLS.
TIME TO GET JIM JORDAN FOR SPEAKER, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH BACKBONE, . THE REST FORGET THEM. THEY WILL JUST GO ALONG WITH THE DEMOCRATS TO DESTROY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT IN PLACE.
HOW FAST AMERICANS FORGET,BUT THEY WILL SOON FIND OUT, HOW WRONG THEY ARE.
Sorry, but Joe is too cheap to have a search engine, I have done this a few times before, so not again. If you can find Larry’s 10 things he liked, or whatever, my list should be close.
Two are top of mind:
1. Family Separation at the Border. Best you can say is right thing but the wrong way. OK, separating families and screaming it from the rooftops may have families think again about an illegal cross. But not tracking the separations so you can’t easily put families you ripped asunder back together again: what might go wrong with that? This policy is just one of many that fall under “cruel and unusual punishment.”
2. Borrow, lose, and spend economic policies. He economically managed the US just like Atlantic City, borrow a ton of money, drop prices when revenues fall, and then try to borrow your way out of it knowing the taxpayer will bail you personally out.
A Trump hallmark, borrowing without ability to pay, held true big time. Bottom line is the Trump economy roared, it was the roar of Trump, the paper lion, who delivered the WORST gdp growth since Herbert Hoover and The Great Depression. Why did you feel good? Because China invested long term in your short term happiness where your productivity level for the future sucked pondwater. Then he said: I will take less money in (not spend less, but take less in to be able to pay) and give you more free money. It was only a matter of time until the swallows came home in the form of inflation and recession, soon job loss.
Think about low gdp growth — first his entire financial forecast depended on gdp growth, all the numbers. He fails miserably and therefore HIS PICTURE OF OUR FUTURE did not come true. As a nation, we produced little more when he left as when he came. He called for 4% growth a year, he didn’t get close.
Sure, Biden did not help, did not counter, but the Trump economy was a house of cards and bound to fail.
There’s two.
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apparently haters gotta hate haters…..must be a left-wing market for it……
there’s worst trump human rights rollbacks, worst abuses of power, the good/bad/ugly, 59 bad things, all sorts of way to look at it: knock yourself out.
What a bunch of crap. If you pull up videos from 40 years ago, including interviews with Oprah, Trump has never swayed on his beliefs. They are exactly the same then as they are now, quite unique for any politician. I don’t care what the name of the party is that he runs under his beliefs are conservative and always have been. If you think DeSantis is a big savior do a little research, he’s been groomed for the presidency by the Deep State. His supporters include Paul Ryan, all the Bushes, Joe Scarborough, Jonah Goldberg, 2 big Obama donors, No thanks, I’ve had enough of this type, if thats what appeals to you go for it and if you haven’t noticed the media pushing him also then you haven’t paid attention.
TRUMP supporters are still here. It isn’t his supporters that say he has a bad personality. We love him. The liars in the Republican and Democrat parties are the ones lying about no one Likes Trump. It isn’t Trump’s fault there wasn’t a red wave. It was the cheating the democrat party did to win Senate and Presidency. There was a red wave because of Trump but remember Biden says IT ISN’T WHO VOTES, IT IS WHO COUNTS THE VOTES. Democrats threw the elections. How do you think Fetterman won? Believe me, he wasn’t voted in. If Trump runs on the independent party I will vote with the independant party. I wanted Trump to run for the speaker of the house. Guess he knows a better way to become President.