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To impeach or not to impeach

To impeach or not to impeach

The possibility of impeaching President Biden should the GOP take control of the House was the subject of an NBC discussion between “Meet the Press’ host Chuck Todd and South Carolina Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace.

In response to a question from Todd, Mace said there would be some pressure to impeach Biden.  She generally pushed back against such talk, however – saying that she would not vote for an impeachment if there was no due process.

Democrats and the media like to use the impeach Biden issue as part of a fearmongering campaign to scare voters away from Republicans.  Since there are no investigations at this time that would establish grounds for impeachment, a quick and early action to impeach is extremely unlikely.

Todd acted surprised that Republicans would even consider talking impeachment at this point.  What are the grounds?  Although Todd did not ask that obvious follow-up question.  Perhaps he did not want to hear the number of issues that might be impeachable offenses.

But you can hardly blame Republicans in view of the way in which Democrats proceeded to impeach President Trump – twice.  Democrats were planning to impeach Trump even before he was inaugurated.  On the first day of Trump’s term in office, the Washington Post called it “the first day of the Trump impeachment.”  Articles of Impeachment were filed in the House shortly after the Inauguration.

Impeachment was one very serious matter.  It has been likened to an indictment with a reasonable anticipation of conviction and removal by the Senate.  Although there have been threats of impeachments in the early days, the only one that passed the House and put the President on trial in the Senate was the impeachment of President Andrew Johnson in 1868.

It was over the removal of a Cabinet member after the assassination of President Lincoln – an unsettled issue at the time.  He was spared conviction by a single vote.  The Supreme Court ultimately declared that a President could fire a Cabinet member even though the person was confirmed by the Senate.  President Nixon avoided an all but certain impeachment – and likely removal from office – by resigning.  He had lost the support of the Republican senators.  His transgressions were egregious.

President Clinton got impeached over a tawdry affair with a White House intern – and ultimately committing perjury for which he was found guilty in court and lost his law license.  But there was no chance Clinton would be found guilty and removed from office for his private indiscretion.  The impeachment amounted to nothing more than a bad mark on his record – more like a House sanction on steroids.

The highly political and preplanned impeachments of Trump further degraded the procedure.  It was no longer a question of “high crimes and misdemeanors” but political enmity. The party that has the majority in the House can vote for an impeachment at any time for any reason – even purely political ones.

Like the Clinton impeachment, Trump’s two impeachments were passed along party lines with no hope of winning a conviction in the Senate.  House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted as much when she said the value of the impeachment was to put a stain on Trump’s record.

If that has become the modern-day purpose of the impeachment, then we may see most future presidents getting impeached over policy or personal matters.  A President should be removed from office only for the gravest of offenses – and impeachments should meet that standard.

It is often said that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich because the standard is so low.  If that is now how legislative “prosecutors’ view the impeachment, we may be subjected to impeachment hearings every time Congress changes hands – and the President is of a different party.

I can understand why Republicans may feel a level of entitlement in looking to impeach Biden – but I hope they do not without a proper investigation of VERY serious dereliction of duties.  And there are a couple of issues on the horizon that could develop.  But when you have all or most of one-party voting to impeach and the other voting against, you know you have a bad impeachment.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry HoristLarry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.

16 Comments

  1. Frank stetson

    Can we impeach DeSantis before he’s elected?

    • Harold blankenship

      The key word is elected. Biden wasn’t.

      • Micala

        You got that right! Biden was “installed” do the Progressives could do the dirt they have to America! If DJT were in office, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED — including Putin attacking the Ukraine! DJT wouldn’t have allowed it nor would he have opened our borders like Toad for Brains did!
        INCOMPETENT BIDEN WAS INSTALLED INTO OUR PRESIDENCY BECAUSE SOMEONE BEHIND THE CURTAIN NEEDED A “MORON” TO DO THEIR DIRT! Joe Biden is that Moron!

    • Micala

      No, because he wasn’t President at the time! I get it! That was a joke! DiSantis is no joke and the liberal left are scared to death about him!

      But the idea of Impeachment for Joe Biden is much stronger than most people think! That is why the Dems “refuse” to have him tested for COMPETENCY — he will FAIL BIG TIME AND THEN IMPEACHMENT WOULD DEFINITELY BE ON THE TABLE!

      That would be the end of their Power and control because Harris as President is LAUGHABLE, if it weren’t so dangerous! She would be impeached for lack of Dutatorial knowledge and inability to fulfill her Vice Presidential duties. That leaves us with Nancy Pelosi who is just TOO DAMN OLD AND in trouble with her husband for Insider Trading — he couldn’t have bought those stocks without inside info from Nancy!

      So this is something the current Dems in power do not want! They will continue to ignore all the demands of a Competency Test for Biden because they know it will end their control.

      Unfortunately for the American people, the Dems only think about themselves first and foremost and hardly ever think of what would happen to the American people. For instance, OPEN BORDERS! Even though thousands of immigrants are being sent to Dem cities across the U.S., it has NOT stopped Biden’s Open Border Policy — which definitely makes me think George Soros (Open Society Organization) is behind the O.B. Issue!

      The Globalists want America’s infrastructure destroyed and by flooding our Nation with illegals, their presence IS DESTROYING IT, PERSON BY PERSON!

      FYI: Soros’ Open Society has buildings along the path in South America to guide illegals to our borders! And they do just that! There is so much going on around this ignorant and incompetent man in D.C. that most Americans have no idea and if Americans do not WAKE UP, their Freedoms and lives as they know them will just disappear! Sad….
      The Fever in America is rising and one day Patriots will have had enough and Civil War II will erupt! It’s coming…

      • ben is back

        “The Fever in America is rising and one day Patriots will have had enough and Civil War II will erupt! It’s coming…”

        The same exact words they said on 1/6/2021.

        How’d that turn out for ya?

  2. Terry Marvin

    Wednesday, September 28, 2022–5:13 pm CST

    President Biden didn’t do anything to deserve impeachment. The Republicans just want him out of the White House just because of his age and a Democrat. The Republicans are the ones that need to be impeached. They dislike the Democrats with a passion.

    • debbie

      why impeach anti american beavis when you will only get buthead to take his place i am a proud concervative and FYI I do not dislike all dems. just the ones on isle 46 !you are right about one thing Biden, doesnt do anything ,he will go down in history known for his greatest achievment putting americans last and kissing the feet of our adversarles I love this country!!!my mistake .what is a country without a boarder? all the drugs ,human trafficing my list could go on but dont worry.biden will take care of all the illegals cell phones. care packs.taking them where they go.free hotel rooms . and while doing all of this leaving the homeless behind .
      .what a guy !!!

      • larry Horist

        debbie. I agree … but the House Republicans know that Biden would not be removed by the Senate. It is that old black mark on the record thing. And a really doubt that there would be an impeachment unless Biden is tied directly to son Hunter’s dirty money’ That is the only case I see on the horizon that would get an impeachment — maybe after he is out of office, like they did with Trump.

    • Jan D

      Don’t know the technicalities of legal requirements for impeachment, but the long term crooked, corrupt, vengeful Biden who has so far gotten away with enough to stuff his goose, is plainly guilty of treachery, treason, planned destruction of every aspect of the US and is selling us out at every level. He is cancer. He is a nightmare.

  3. Ben is back

    Biden was elected twice. Popular vote and electoral college vote.

    Trump lost the popular vote in 2026 and 2020.

    Hillary was cheated in 2026 by the Russians who Don asked for help from

    He tried to cheat in 2020 using the Ukrainians which did not work. Then Putin got nad and attacked Ukraine.

    Putin cheats in his elections like Don.

    • larry Horist

      So … what does all that have to do withs Biden? Or are you just venting.

      • ben is back

        That he is duly elected by popular and electoral vote. Trump, no so much so. Hillary got cheated and Putin cheats like Don.

        And yes, that’s a vent.

    • Gene

      And you lied twice asshole

      • ben is back

        Nope, you are wrong.

  4. Americafirst

    Well, how do you impeach a dead man? Joseph Biden was executed on 7/19/20. The person we see is and are actors. Those are who should be arrested. I do not believe you can impeach people who were never President.

  5. Tom

    I agree Larry. My biggest fear as an independent / unaffiliated voter is that if Biden is impeached, then Kamala Harris becomes POTUS which would play right into Dem hands. Biden has some bad policy, and has certainly in my view made some bad decisions as well as mishandled the economy, but I do not think he has done anything for which he can be impeached.