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The many lies of Joe Biden

The many lies of Joe Biden

If there is one area in which you can clearly see the dishonesty of the press, it is in fact-checking.  In fact, much of the fact-checking is deceptive – part of an overall disinformation campaign by the media.  It is true that President Trump does say things that are demonstrably not true at times, but a very high proportion of his so-called lies are subject to interpretation or matters of opinion — and you know how those on the left view their opinions as fact.  Others are jokes and sarcasm which his enemies interpret literally.

You will notice that the media fact-checkers spend truly little time – close to none – in fact-checking Joe Biden.  Now I am not one of those professional so-called fact-checkers  — nor do I have big staff to dig out every out-of-context statement to add to the pile of alleged fibs by Trump.  But I think Biden has done some pretty serious lying – deserving of some fact-checking.  So, here are some of my favorites.

To show that the man has a lifelong habit of telling whoppers, we can begin with his college days.  Biden presented writings in college that he claimed to be of his own creation – in one case five pages of plagiarized material.  In fact, he lied.  The plagiarism was so serious that it got him a rebuke from the school – and almost expelled.

Then there were these (with some help from PolitiFact and others):

  1. When running for office shortly after graduating, Biden claimed that he was in the top quarter of his law class.  Totally a lie.  He actually finished off near the bottom.
  2. He claimed that he earned a full scholarship to the University. He did not.  He did have a very small grant of the type many students get.
  3. He claimed that he was declared the best student in his Political Science class.  He was not – and never so recognized.
  4. When making his first bid for President of the United States way back in 1988, Biden resorted to his old habit of plagiarizing – lifting the works of President Jack Kennedy, Massachusetts Senator Bobby Kennedy, Minnesota Senator Hubert Humphrey and British Labor Party Leader Neil Kinnock. The plagiarism and the lies were so serious that they forced him out of the race.
  5. Over the years, Biden told audiences – especially black audiences — that he had participated in all sorts of civil rights activities – as an activist and organizer for demonstrations, sit-ins, boycotts, voter registration drives and as a black church trainee. None of the stories were ever corroborated – and eventually Biden had to issue a correction.  He said: “During the 1960s, I was in fact very concerned about the civil rights movement. I was not an activist. I worked at an all-black swimming pool in the east side of Wilmington, Delaware. I was involved in what they were thinking, what they were feeling. But I was not out marching. I was not down in Selma. I was not anywhere else.” 
  6. Biden has repeatedly lied about the tragedy that took the lives of his first wife Neilia and their daughter by saying that they were the victims of a drunken truck driver. The truck driver was not drunk, and it was Biden’s wife that blew a stop sign and drove into the path of the truck.
  7. Biden apologized to the daughter of the truck driver for his mischaracterization of the event but repeated the bogus account again in 2007 – and was again forced to retract his statement.
  8. Biden tells a romanticized story of how he saw Jill’s photo and fell immediately in love with her. Jill was married at the time they met — and both Jill and her husband worked on Biden’s campaign.  Some have accused Biden of being the “other man” that broke up the marriage.
  9. More recently, Biden told a black audience that he had begun his academic career at a black university. Totally untrue.
  10. He said that the GOP budget was a plan to end Medicare in 10 years.   Not even close.
  11. In several recent appearances, Biden denied that he had any plans to end fracking for oil despite several recorded statements in which he said that very thing. He has even lied within a lie when the campaign issues videos of Biden saying firmly that he will not end fracking … period – but tells some audiences that he will end some now, stop issuing new permits and eventually end it altogether.
  12. Biden told an audience that he had been shot at in 2007 while visiting Iraq. When later challenged, he admitted that he had “misspoke.”  (That reminds me of Senator Richard Blumenthal thinking he had fought in battles in Vietnam when had not.  And Hillary Clinton saying she came under fire when she landed in Bosnia.  News videos showed her accepting flowers from a young girl in native costume.  Maybe Clinton mistook a prick from a rose stem for a volley of bullets.  But I digress. )
  13. Biden promised to give a statement before Election Day on whether he favors or is opposed to packing the Supreme Court. He has not – and all indications are that he will not.
  14. In a CNN Townhall meeting, Biden angrily rejected a question from a member of the Boilermakers Union. Biden said he was endorsed by the Boilermakers.  Totally untrue.
  15. During the debate, he said 18,000 prisoners got clemency from the Obama administration.   Untrue.
  16. Biden once claimed that he was arrested “on the streets of Soweto” South Africa when he tried to visit Nelson Mandela in prison. He said Mandela thanked him for the effort.  Biden had to retract his story when it was proven it never happened – none of it.
  17. He declared the hearings to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barret are unconstitutional. Not true.  Biden needs to read the Constitution.
  18. Biden claimed that the Trump administration ended all funding for community policing. Totally untrue.
  19. To further his argument for delaying the Barrett hearing, Biden said that the Supreme Court has no sessions until next year. Not only is that untrue, but the Court is also entering its busiest season with arguments being heard on Obamacare just days after the General Election.
  20. Perhaps Biden just lost his mind, but he actually said that if Trump has done his job ALL those who died would be alive. He even repeated his statement for emphasis, “All the people.  I am not making this up.”  Yes, you are, Joe.
  21. Biden claimed that “no President before Trump was racist” – assuming that Trump is. Biden forgot about all those Democrat presidents with deep racist histories and policies, including the much-revered Democrats Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt to name a few.
  22. In reaching out for black voters, Biden said “the NAACP endorsed me every time I ran.” They did not.
  23. Biden claimed that the Obama administration never locked migrant kids in cages. In fact, the cages were built by the Obama administration for the retention of children – and others.
  24. Biden claims he came out against the Iraq war from the beginning. In fact, Biden voted in favor of the war when President Bush sought congressional support – and did not express opposition for several years.
  25. Biden said that Trump would “carpet bomb” the Middle East. Fact is, Trump is removing U.S. forces and has secured an unprecedented three treaties between Israel and Arab nations.
  26. Biden’s more recent campaign slogan “Build Back Better” was copied from British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s fight against Covid-19.
  27. Biden talks about himself as “a teacher” or “professor.” He did have an association with a college for a short while, but never as a classroom teacher.
  28. Most famously, Biden told another whopper when he said he knew nothing of his son’s business dealings. Recent evidence shows that he had meetings with Hunter and top executives of the corrupt Burisma Holdings.  Leaked emails show that Biden is likely “the big guy” who would get a 10 percent cut of some deal.
  29. Biden claims that all that Ukraine stuff has been investigated and debunked. His unspecified investigators cleared him and his son completely.  In fact, the last information was just released and there has been no investigation of Hunter – or Joe – in terms of any Ukrainian dealings.  There are also lingering questions about money from China and Russia.
  30. Biden recounts a dramatic story about his visit to Afghanistan to honor a Naval officer who had rappelled down a ravine while under fire to retrieve a fellow soldier. “This is God’s truth.  My word as a Biden.”  The Washington Post wrote that “every detail in the story appears to be incorrect.” They further wrote that, “In the space of three minutes, Biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong, as well as his own role in the ceremony.
  31. To create a connection to the working person – and to get votes in Pennsylvania — Biden often talks about being “brought up” in Scranton, Pennsylvania in a working-class family.  They had moved to Delaware when Biden was 10 years old.
  32. Biden has claimed to have given up the ambition for “making a fortune” to be in public service. It is true that he has been on the taxpayer payroll virtually his entire post-college life – but public service has made him a very wealthy guy,  he is reported to have a net worth of more than $10 million dollars as of 2016.

This could go on almost endlessly.  And this list does not include his many flip-flops on issues – such as fracking, abortion, gun control, the Iraq War, confirming Supreme Court justices in an election year, etc., etc., etc.

Biden has built his entire public image and reputation on lies.  He is, in fact, a hot-tempered Irish politician with a penchant for the blarney.

So, there ‘tis.

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Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.

21 Comments

  1. Dan Tyree

    Wow!!!! All of the lies and he’s still standing. Reference lie number 12. How can Hillary mistake a prick. She’s been married to one for a long time.

  2. Mike

    Larry, Nice tabulation! While I don’t condone lying by anyone, why don’t you do a side by side comparison of lies told by Biden, versus lies told by your candidate? Of course, the trump tabulation has only been going on since he became president, and I am not going to bother to list all of them (since they exceed 20,000), but Biden is a light-weight when it comes to circumventing the truth, your man is the champ! So there tis!

    • KenM

      I can understand why you won’t list any Mike. You don’t know any.

  3. Young Americans R stupid

    If you ask a young leftist about Biden’s lying and illegal business ventures with communist countries they ALL have the same indoctrinated response:
    “Trump lies. Trump didn’t stop COVID.”
    They won’t answer HOW Trump lies. They cannot give you an example and they cannot tell you how their beloved socialist democrat party would have done regarding COVID. In fact, they ignore the questions.
    Indeed, they have been indoctrinated well!!!!!!!!!

  4. Lookout

    John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
    Sounds like a prophecy about Joe Biden.

  5. Ben Weber

    32 lies is a LOT… less than the 20,000 lies that trump has told since he was sworn into office.
    Y’all confuse me. Biden is NOT an ideal candidate ( especially in the eyes of the more progressive voters). He is a Capitalist, “Republican light”.
    But to point out his lies, his “cognitive decline”, his son getting special treatment, or his ties to foreign governments, just doesn’t make sense. All Biden has to do is say, “Do you really want to compare lies? Cognitive decline? Nepotism? Foreign entanglements? Trump comes out the loser in EVERY SINGLE one of the side by side comparisons on these issues.”
    It’s just not a winning strategy. But at this point, it doesn’t really look like there is a winning strategy for trump.

    • bobsomm

      Ben, You are simply wrong regarding Biden’s do-nothing record compared with Trump’s 3 1/2 years of amazing progress. Biden has no significant accomplishments. Both have lied but Biden’s lies are in violation of his numerous oaths of office. Biden has sold us out by what includes traitorous acts lininh his pockets and others’ pockets and I simply cannot waste my time arguing about your claim of Trump’s 20,000 lies since in office. So many left wingnuts, like CNN’s Lemon and MSNBC’s Madow do what you just did, to-wit, you make a wild claim and no one rebukes you so, you go on with your deception as though it is fact and develop a whole story line based on a foundation of sand. Your arguments fall on their own weight and I cannot waste any more of my precious time on your stupid bull shit. Other than that, I wish you well.

    • Dan Tyree

      Ben face it. Joe is too retarded to be president. His handlers know it. He’s just a front to get his token ho in charge later on. Joe has been a lying bastard for 47 years. The ultimate goal is to transform America into a socialist shit hole.

  6. KenM

    22,000 lies? Let’s see, that works out to more than 15 lies for each day the president has been in office. Mike and Ben should be able to at least specify two or three of the lies the president allegedly said just yesterday. Wouldn’t you think? How convenient their shotgun approach is.

  7. Dan Tyree

    KenM Mike and Ben are idiots. You can’t fix stupid.

  8. Mike

    Dan told me in one of his earlier responses that he was a college graduate-that concerns me a lot, since I knew our schools were in bad shape due to lack of funding, but I never thought that somebody could graduate from University and still not be able to read. But since Dan and Ken have challenged me, I will just post the lies from the last debate, 20000 is far too many for me to list, but if you can get someone to read to you, tell them to google “Trump Lies”
    1) 2.2 Million people were expected to die from the coronavirus-not true, nobody expected that many people to die, but that is the number that was floated around if nothing was done, with mitigation 100K-240K was expected, we are going to go way over that.
    2) We have a vaccine that’s coming, that’s ready-not true, we all know that there are various vaccines under development, but they are not ready, and we are certainly not going to be vaccinating significant numbers of people this year.
    3) 99% of people recover from Covid-the death rate is still approaching 3%, even with all the improvements that have been made in treatments. However, even among those that don’t die, many of the people who have been hospitalized have had lingering effects, so I would not describe those people as “fully recovered”.
    4) Obama administration was a disaster on swine flu-Since there were only 12,500 people that died of the swine flu in the US, this is obviously false when compared to Trump’s handling of Covid. But, they are different diseases, so trying to compare them really makes no sense….
    5) He banned China travel in January-Is false, had he actually locked the country down, we probably would have been in much better shape. He stopped some people from coming from China, but there were still lots of people, citizens, green card holders, that continued to come in, and none of these people were tested or quarantined….
    6) Nancy Pelosi was dancing on the streets of Chinatown-This is similar to his statement that he saw Muslims celebrating after the 9/11 attacks (also false), due to the Xenophobic bile that Trump was stirring up in April, Nancy did go to Chinatown in SF to show that there was no cause to be concerned about Chinese residents of the US, but was nothing like dancing.
    7) No one has been tougher than me on Russia-if I have to explain that this is a total lie, I really have doubts about your ability to process the news. The fact that Trump has never made a derogatory comment to Putin is well understood..
    8) I don’t make money from China. You do. I don’t make money from Ukraine. You do.-of course these refer to the infamous laptop conspiracy that julieannie is pushing, but it is well documented that his contact in Ukraine was a Russian agent. The story was so bogus that the well-respected conservative Wall Street Journal would not take it, so they had to shop it to a tabloid. Zero backup that this is true. But, there does seem to be a Trump connection in China, due to the fact that he allegedly paid taxes there, but of course that is hearsay too, since he won’t release his taxes
    9) Biden received $3.5 Million from Russia-There is a totally unproven allegation that Hunter Biden received this money, but there is zero evidence (or even allegations except from Trump) that Joe received any of this.
    10) Trump claimed that Russia was meddling in the election to defeat him-Had he said that about China, it might be believable, but because he said it about Russia, it is totally laughable (also our spy agencies don’t believe this)
    11) I can’t release my taxes because they are under audit-How many times have we heard this, and how many times does it need to be said that an audit does not preclude releasing your taxes?
    12) Mueller went through everything, including my taxes and found nothing wrong-there is no evidence that Mueller looked at his taxes, the probe was very narrowly focused, but to say in general he found nothing wrong is a lie, he did not bring any charges against him due to the Justice Department’s opinion that a sitting President cannot be charged with such crimes.
    13) Obama tried to meet with him (Kim Jong Un), he wouldn’t do it-total fabrication, Obama refused to meet with Kim unless preconditions were met, Trump had no such preconditions….
    14) No one has done more for the Black community than Donald Trump, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln-Of course DT flunked history, so he wouldn’t know about the actions of Lyndon Johnson for people of color and the civil rights movement.
    15) They want to spend $100 Trillion, they want to knock down building and build new building with little tiny windows-Another totally false statement, Biden has suggested he would like to spend $2 Trillion on renewable energy infrastructure, some of which would be used to enhance the energy efficiency of existing buildings.
    16) Coronavirus is going away-Not happening anytime soon….
    17) China is paying billions in tariff revenue-China has not paid one cent in tariff revenue, tariffs are taxes that are levied when goods are imported, and are paid by the American companies that do the importing (and in most cases are past on to the consumer in the form of higher prices…
    18) Biden wants socialized medicine-Far from it, he wants to keep Obamacare with a public option similar to medicare for people that choose to have their coverage like that, keeping private insurance for those who want that.
    19) Over 400 miles of brand new wall have been built-somewhere close to 400 miles of wall has been constructed, but the vast majority of this replaces existing wall…
    20) Less than 2% of the people under catch and release come back for their hearings, and those are the dumb ones-latest statistics show that 75% of those released do return for their hearings…
    21) US has the best carbon emission numbers in 35 years-since our numbers have mostly been going up each year, the fact that there was a slight decline in 2019 (due to less coal being used-remember the I dig coal slogan from 2016, and how coal was going to boom-another lie) they are not the best numbers we have had over the years.
    22) We have the cleanest air and water-the US comes in at 16th in air quality and 26th in water quality, not exactly “be best”
    23) Since I am really tired of putting out just the lies told in 90 minutes, I will close with his health care plan. How many times has he said he was going to release it in the next two weeks. He gave a stack of paper to Leslie Stahl, but there was no plan in that stack upon their review….

  9. Dan Tyree

    Mike your so called Trump lies are nothing but commiecrat propaganda. Just like Tokyo Rose broadcasts during WWII. I will never say that no president has ever lied to the people. All of them have somewhat, even Honest Abe. But bathhouse Barry lied about every issue and nobody gave a rat’s ass. I won’t fact check any politician. It’s not my job. You mentioned my other posts. What about the one asking you what’s so attractive about socialism? By the way, if retard joe and ho were to win, I’ll never comply with any of their policies that trampled on my liberties. Yes, it’s true that the radical left would try to rule and joe the dumbass would be forced to stand down. One of the Russian leaders several years ago during the Cold War said that communists would take America without firing a shot. That day might be upon us. It’s remarkable how stupid that people have become. Indoctrinated idiots like you will trash this country. But the votes haven’t been counted yet. But if your crowd wins our republic is gone forever.

    • Mike

      Dan-Your naïveté astounds me, you say you are a college graduate, but nobody with any kind of education could put out the bull shit you do. I have documented just a few of the lies that your president has told, lies which you previously said were none existent. So you ask what I find so attractive about socialism? You need to realize that the two socialist programs we have in this country are among the most popular things our government does. Of course I am referring to social security and medicare. That being said, there are certainly other programs that would likely be popular with the public-but Joe Biden isn’t advocating for those. If you would learn to read, you could investigate other news sources than Sean Hannity and Laura ingraham and you might be able to have a sensible political discussion. As it is now, you simply mouth what you have heard from your favorite talking heads and it is all BS…

  10. cabinet-mosoblgaz.ru

    President Trump’s performance at the first presidential debate was so petulant and disgusting that it has taken me this long to put my thoughts to pixels. It’s not like I was surprised by what he did. Trump has been barking lies and obscenities at the American people since June 16, 2015. What was breathtaking on Tuesday was the ferocity of his bullying. It was a Brett Kavanaugh-like performance that reeked of desperation. The chaos in Cleveland reinforced my belief that Trump will do everything to win. He’ll do anything to maintain his shield from criminal prosecution and to continue monetizing the presidency — perhaps to make enough money to pay the $421 million in debts and loans that are coming due within the next four years, according to the New York Times. Trump is as pathetic as he is dangerous.

  11. Dan Tyree

    Actually Mike I formed my opinions before I ever heard of Hannity and Laura Medicare and social security aren’t socialist programs per say. We work and pay into the funds. Of course special needs people whom from childhood can’t look after themselves must have help. I have a nephew that was born with Down’s syndrome. Yes, he will never be able to do much for himself and will have to be kept up through SSI. But no illegal immigrants should have free health care while my wife and I have worked to provide for us. I have never had a handout from the government and I paid for my college out of pocket. Before I would have became a welfare bum I would have stood on the streets with a bucket and played my fiddle. I don’t have a problem with helping people that’s down and out or people receiving disability social security if they really need it. I don’t understand why you Biden supporters are silent on the so called green new deal. The commiecrats have made it clear what they want and it would kill our country. Yes, perhaps a certain amount of socialism might be necessary due to the fact that we have many more people with different needs. But we must keep it at a minimal or sooner or later we will be like some third world shit hole. The world or the government doesn’t owe us a living. And Obama care? I’ve known several people personally that lost their insurance because of the bull shit law. And my family premiums more than doubled. And don’t get me started on gun control. The founders of America didn’t intend for the government to dictate to us for permission to be armed. And no, Trump hasn’t told 22000 or whatever lies. It’s the sleazy commiecrats like Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff that’s the damned liars. Trump’s only crime is that he beat the wrong candidate. Queen killery got flushed. Thank God!!!!

  12. Mike

    Dan, Since the last thing you mentioned is Hillary, how about that lie-“the first thing I do as President will be to send Hillary to jail”. Or is that not a lie, just a campaign promise not kept (like all the rest of them, except for his wonderful tax cuts for the rich, he promised that, and you got it-and the deficit that goes with it.) You really do need to learn to read, because, yes, he has told well over 20000 lies. Now some of them are repeats, because he does figure if he tells a lie often enough, most of his followers will start to believe it. And he is right on that point…. But back to socialism, it appears that you are not really a world traveler, because there are a number of countries that are very socialist, and very prosperous. Try Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and to a lesser extent Germany and the United Kingdom, not exactly the third world shitholes that you mention above. If you ever bothered to read (I know, ignorance is bliss) the third world countries that happen to be socialist and also “shitholes” are that way because they have dictators that have run the country into the ground, not because they are socialist. But you wouldn’t know that…..

  13. Dan Tyree

    Mike socialism makes it easier for dictatorship. As for killery , the truth is everybody is afraid of the bitch. Trump saw that prosecuting the bitch would be an uphill battle. Speaking of lies, didn’t the commiecrats say during the midterms that they wouldn’t support Nancy Pelosi,AKA nasty pussy for speaker? The rest is history. And retard joe said that he didn’t really mean it when he spoke of shit caning coal and oil and natural gas? And Barack the mulatto said that if we like our doctors we can keep them? The commiecrats are so crooked that when they die their grave would have to be dug with a cork screw. And if you like the other countries that you blabbed about you’re welcome to leave America and pick one out to live there. Assuming that you work, how much of your money do you want taken from you to support socialism? I know that I’m not going to convince you, but I don’t care. As long as myself and others know the truth , it’s all good. Just remember this. It’s not the government’s job to create wealth. It’s up to us. Some can do better than others. But what I have I got from hard work. I don’t need the government to wipe my ass for me. So go ahead and kiss up to big brother.

  14. James Lucas

    Mike don’t you ever get tired of being a liberal pussy?

  15. Harvey Stover

    Mike I think you should go ahead and move out. You aren’t going to like a 2nd term for President Trump. Go on!!!!!! Your stench is getting worse every day.

  16. Mike

    Dan, The issue that you seem to overlook (as do most Republicans) is that our economy does not function without the “little” people. And, since we are a relatively prosperous nation, some of us think that the “little” people deserve a reasonable life-style. I do not believe in welfare for able-bodied who perhaps choose not to work, but I do believe that anybody who is willing to work should A) receive a living wage (which the current minimum wage is not a living wage anyplace) and B) should receive reasonable healthcare. The healthcare would have to be government provided, that yes, you and I would be paying for with taxes (just as we do for social security and medicare). So, yes, I am in favor of socialism if that is what you want to call this (and so is my Presidential candidate). I believe that it is important to take care of those around me, because I realize that the economy would crash if it were not for all of these people in low-paying jobs. So enough about socialism-the real point of Larry’s article was “Lies by Biden” which I pointed out was an incredible reach due to the vast number of Lies by Trump on record. And just yesterday, he tells a major whopper at one of his Covid Spreaders-“The reason we have so many Covid deaths is because the Doctors make more money if they write the cause of death as Covid 19”. To me, that goes beyond lying, Trump is a real sick puppy and all of you should be very concerned about his mental health….

  17. Dan Tyree

    Mental health Mike? What about joe. Who in the hell stands before the people and talk about children rubbing his legs? Free Medicare? That might be great if they would cut the pay of Congress by at least 1/2. And that anyone receiving it was NOT an illegal wet back. Also I don’t know how you feel about the 2nd amendment but Joe and his ho would gut it if possible. Due to the Heller and Miller decisions from the Supreme Court they couldn’t just say no more guns. But the kind of judges that they would appoint later on would legislate from the bench. When I say out of my cold dead hand I really mean it. Open borders is another issue. Just to name a few. So keep on being stupid.