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Pence vs. Harris – Who won?

<p>Tonight was the first and last Vice Presidential debate&comma; Vice President Pence vs Senator Kamala Harris&period; It was moderated by Susan Page from USAToday&period; It consisted of nine segments meant to be 10 minutes each&period; Note that I am thoroughly biased in my support for Trump&comma; I will attempt to leave it behind to determine who won &lpar;my decision is at the bottom&comma; so read all of this&excl;&rpar;&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Environmentals<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; VP Pence was very calm and confident&comma; he has a strong voice and was well prepared&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>In my opinion&comma; Sen&period; Harris has a less impressive voice&comma; and while well prepared&comma; was prepared with points that were readily countered in this kind of forum&period; She occasionally <em><strong>smiled and laughed awkwardly&comma;<&sol;strong><&sol;em> and she was abrasive in some exchanges&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Interestingly&comma; Pence seemed to<em><strong> extend some graciousness<&sol;strong><&sol;em> in the middle of the debate&comma; thanking Harris for her well wishes for Trump&period; He did this a couple of times&comma; which gave him even more control&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The stage was quiet&comma; the crowd not a factor&period; Even the plastic shield between them did not seem to have any effect on the exchanges&period; No technical issues&period; Pence had a fly land on his head that he did not notice&comma; it was gone in a few minutes&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>I did not check this&comma; but Harris was said to have more speaking time than Pence&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Bias<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; I believe Susan Page genuinely attempted to not be biased&comma; but her bias was clear&period; She spent a good deal of time in the beginning chastizing the candidates for the last debate &lpar;in my opinion&comma; chastizing Trump&rpar;&period; And I believed <em><strong>some of her questions had a huge liberal bias<&sol;strong><&sol;em> &lpar;although well handled by Pence&rpar;&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>COVID<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi;  Harris started with the current Biden campaign memes on the &&num;8220&semi;failure&&num;8221&semi; of the Trump administration to deal properly with the pandemic&period; However Pence&&num;8217&semi;s responses were VERY well prepared&comma; and given equal time noted that scientists predicted that <em><strong>2&period;2 million people would die without a proper response and predicted 200&comma;000 would die even with the best response<&sol;strong><&sol;em>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence managed to emphasize several times that Biden was opposed to shutting down travel with China in the very early stages&period; He described the most <em><strong>massive response ever for a disease<&sol;strong><&sol;em> and all of the parts&comma; including the fastest development of a vaccine in history&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence also noted that much of Biden&&num;8217&semi;s response as stated on his campaign site was exactly what has happened so far&period; He was able to bring home a dig about Biden &&num;8220&semi;plagiarizing&&num;8221&semi; Trump&&num;8217&semi;s plan&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Another key quote&comma; Pence to Harris<em><strong> &&num;8220&semi;Stop playing politics with people&&num;8217&semi;s lives&&num;8221&semi;<&sol;strong><&sol;em> and <em><strong>&&num;8220&semi;Don&&num;8217&semi;t undermine people&&num;8217&semi;s confidence in the vaccine&period;&&num;8221&semi;<&sol;strong><&sol;em><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Oldest President<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; A question was asked about succession plans since the next President will be the oldest&period; Neither candidate answered it&period; Both seemed to note that transparency in the President&&num;8217&semi;s health was important&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Economic Recovery<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; Harris tried to note how great Obama&&num;8217&semi;s recovery was&period; She attempted to talk about lost manufacturing jobs under Trump&period; Pence countered that <em><strong>700&comma;000 manufacturing jobs disappeared under Obama<&sol;strong><&sol;em> and that Obama said they were not coming back&period; He also noted Trump had <em><strong>already brought back 500&comma;000<&sol;strong><&sol;em> manufacturing jobs&period; Pence seemed very well prepared&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence nailed Harris on her <em><strong>claim that taxes would not be raised on the middle class<&sol;strong><&sol;em>&period; She stated she would <em><strong>cancel the Trump tax cuts the first day<&sol;strong><&sol;em>&period; Pence said that the revocation of the  Trump tax cuts would raise taxes on the middle class&period; Pence did not yield the point&comma; it was well made&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Climate change<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; Harris pushed the narrative of the disaster of climate change in hurricanes and the fires in California&period; This is a narrative that has been pushed by the liberal media&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence&&num;8217&semi;s response was very honest and polished&comma; that our environment was the best ever and well respected by the Trump Administration&period; Given the liberal power behind this narrative&comma; Pence perhaps did not win on this point&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence did&comma; however&comma; noted that the <em><strong>Green New Deal &lpar;which has picked up a huge negative connotation&rpar; is mention on the Biden campaign site as the &&num;8220&semi;crucial framework&&num;8221&semi;<&sol;strong><&sol;em> for Biden&&num;8217&semi;s plan&comma; even though Biden has denied that it is his plan&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Roe v&period; Wade<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; Question was avoided by both sides&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Packing the Supreme Court<&sol;strong> &&num;8211&semi; Pence attempted to get an answer from Harris as to whether they would &&num;8220&semi;pack the court&&num;8221&semi; i&period;e&period;&comma; add enough liberal Justices &lpar;up to 13 Justices&comma; versus the current 9&rpar;&period; Harris refused to answer&comma; even after being prodded several times by Pence&period; Pence then said the obvious that they would definitely do it&period; Harris did not respond&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Election <&sol;strong>&&num;8211&semi; This was a thoroughly biased question&period; It was phrased as &&num;8220&semi;If Trump loses and does not yield power what will you do&period;&&num;8221&semi;  To her credit&comma; Harris did not take the bait&comma; not giving credibility to this crazy liberal narrative&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence took the bull by the horns and noted that the Democrats were the ones who had not accepted the 2016 election results and listed the 3 year Russia conspiracy investigation and the Ukraine phone call as a justification for impeachment&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Who won&quest; <&sol;strong><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence won this by a mile&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>He was in control&comma; his answers were substantive responsive and he clearly knocked the liberal narratives out of the park&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Harris&&num;8217&semi;s manner did not endear her to the audience&period; Her narratives were in many cases the false ones being perpetuated by the liberal media&period; Her claims of &&num;8220&semi;failures&&num;8221&semi; by the Trump Administration were clearly and smoothly rebutted by Pence&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Pence was able to nail the Harris&sol;Biden ticket on fracking&comma; on the economy&comma; on the Green New Deal and packing the Supreme Court&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>My opinion is supported by the short time afterward where I watched <em><strong>CNN&period; The clearly liberal-biased commentators were making excuses for Harris&period;<&sol;strong><&sol;em> It was a bit sad&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>As I said&comma; I am not unbiased here&comma; but I believe this is a clear victory for Pence&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><strong>Final Comments<&sol;strong><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>This was a more influential debate than is usually the case for Vice Presidential debates&period; If Biden wins&comma; Harris has a good chance to be President at some point&period; After the debate war last week&comma; this was much clearer and much easier to understand&period; Much will depend on the Nielsen ratings here&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;

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