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Harris in 2024 … or sooner?

Harris in 2024 … or sooner?

It is becoming increasingly apparent that President Biden will not be capable of serving as President for the next five and a half years.  While there is a public belief that he will not finish a second term, his more frequent and more serious gaffes and senior moments raise the question as to whether he will complete his first term.

Both Biden and President Trump are in the “anything can happen” stage of life.  Biden’s increasingly obvious decline is becoming too obvious to be covered up by staff reports and limited exposure.  While he is the odds-on favorite to secure the Democrat nomination, the odds of his stepping aside, being pressured to quit or facing a viable opponent are increasing.

Biden’s abysmal polling numbers are clear evidence of what the voters are seeing.  More than 70 percent want Biden to drop out of the 2024 race – and that includes 58 percent of Democrats.  Most voters say he is too old and too incapable physically and mentally. And more than a third of the electorate believes Biden will not complete a second term.  I would call that a safe bet.

That does not mean those Democrats will not vote for him if the binary choice is him or Trump.  Just a many voters who do not want to see Trump  as the GOP standard bearer will vote for him if the only  other options is Biden.

In a recent speech Biden gave an account of his reason for running in 2020 two times within a few minutes — almost word for word.  That is what old folks do when they are starting to lose it.

He struggles to recall names – often pausing and then falling back on a description.  In talking about Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Biden seemed to be struggling for the name and then simply referred to him as “that fellow down under.”  When talking about the Pentagon, he pointed to “that outfit over there.”  Biden has long relied on crafted speeches and the teleprompter but even then he stumbles over words or loses his train of thought.

He is provided with crib sheets with the most basic instructions.  One sheet was caught on camera – instructing him to enter the room … greet the guests … sit down in his chair.  That is how you counsel someone who gets confused.

He more and more frequently seems disoriented and confused as to which direction he should proceed and when.  Biden’s aides have been seen directing him.  On one occasion he confused his sister with his wife.  Biden walked away aimlessly from his wife at the G7 meeting.  He seemed to walk off on his own before the ending of an awards ceremony in the White House.

Biden tends to reminisce about his past – and repeats personal stores that are not true, even though he has been called out on them.  He claims he was arrested while trying to visit Nelson Mandela in jail … that he drove an 18-wheeler trailer truck …  that he witnessed the collapse of a bridge in Pennsylvania …  that he traveled to New York the day after 9/11 …  that he taught a political science college course.  All provably untrue.

All these “signs” point to mental decline – and are being recognized as such by the public despite the best efforts of the staff to hide them by making glowing public statements about his health and vitality.  They point to moments when Biden seems strong and articulate.  But anyone who has been around older folks knows that it is not uncommon for an elderly person in decline to have good moments and bad – with the bad occurring more frequently.

If Biden continues on this same trajectory over the next few months, it may be impossible for him to win the 2024 presidential election even if his opponent is Trump.  Already they are in a statistical tie with Trump slightly ahead – notwithstanding the recent New Hampshire poll that shows Biden ahead.

There may be one of those “coming to Jesus” moments, when Biden will recognize the hopelessness of his ambition for a second term.  He would then drop out of the race.  Or … he could resign in the waning days of his presidency as a favor to his Vice President – making Kamala Harris the President of the United States.  That would give her the edge on a future run.  Something that is not in the cards at this moment unless Biden hands her the presidency..

This is not outside the realm of possibility.  It is something that should keep us praying that old Joe will at least make it to Election Day 2024

So, there ‘tis.

About The Author

Larry Horist

So,there‘tis… The opinions, perspectives and analyses of Larry Horist Larry Horist is a businessman, conservative writer and political strategist with an extensive background in economics and public policy. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman. He has served as a consultant to the Nixon White House and travelled the country as a spokesman for President Reagan’s economic reforms. He has testified as an expert witness before numerous legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress. Horist has lectured and taught courses at numerous colleges and universities, including Harvard, Northwestern, DePaul universities, Hope College and his alma mater, Knox College. He has been a guest on hundreds of public affairs talk shows, and hosted his own program, “Chicago In Sight,” on WIND radio. Horist was a one-time candidate for mayor of Chicago and served as Executive Director of the City Club of Chicago, where he led a successful two-year campaign to save the historic Chicago Theatre from the wrecking ball. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He is praised by readers for his style, substance and sense of humor. According to one reader, Horist is the “new Charles Krauthammer.” He is actively semi-retired in Boca Raton, Florida where he devotes his time to writing. So, there ‘tis is Horist’s signature sign off.


  1. frank stetson

    Based on the typos, time to hang up the keyboard since you must be senile. You repeat stories, tend to wander, often are corrected by the fact checkers. It’s even worse when you free-hand it without paid editorial support. Like wearing a colostomy bag to catch your…. You even claim to be the “new Charles Krauthammer,” based on ONE reader. Krauthammer has been dead for over five years. You continue to live in the past hyping your time with Nixon, a guy most people don’t even remember. Matter of fact, almost all of your references are dead except Steve Forbes who many have said has been dead for a decade….

    Come on man, give it a rest. He has always done this, perhaps worse with age, everyone uses scripts, even Trump at times (and should always use them IMO). His “lies” are mostly benign, meant to make us feel good, and cause little harm. Unlike a lie that kills like DeSantis telling folks to skip the CDC recommended vaccines as Florida has the current highest hospital admissions of any State. Now, that’s a lie that harms.

    Biden has forgotten more about governing and getting legislation passed than most politicians will ever know. Yes, he’s old, he’ frail even if he can ride a bike (can you?), but shouldn’t we support him as he tries to support us? Yeah, I know, I have been unsupportive of Trump from the git-go. But he’s a criminal. Until you pin the tail on Biden’s being the head of the Biden crime family’s tail, all you got is no indictments and little hard evidence.

    Nope, I support your right to write, I even overlook most typos as I, without editors, make a few myself. And I support his LEGAL right to be President and if you think he’s senile —— impeach the old man. Otherwise, see you at the polls where you can happily vote for 4 indictments, over 90 charges, over 30 felony charges, over 20 people charged with more to come no doubt and pretend either there’s nothing wrong with that or it never even happened.

    FYI: You missed the recent WAPO poll with Trump ahead by 10 points as you whine about winning once again.

    Poor Harris, and putting salt on the wound, he just made her “gun czar.” Yeah, like that’s gonna end well….. Talk about being set up.

    Unfortunately, for all you say, ultimately the best you can do is put Trump up for a rematch. You also miss how many times he has hit it out of the park for the important speeches and such. Not to mention all the legislation that somehow this senile old fool turned into law unlike the last clown’s governing by EO. Nope, once the final nominees are selected, and we head round the club house turn to the finish line, if the race is between senility and retribution —– I am all in for senile over the pain of retribution from a criminal.

    There’s still a long way to go, many rivers to cross (in Texas), many court adjudications to complete, and a few debates to decide (if Trump even dares to show up). There’s a lot on the line on this one and many bold ideas to vote for or against. It will be wild.

    • larry Horist

      Frank Stetson …LMAO …. You recently said it is not personal and then unleash a bs ad hominin attack of major proportions. I just occurred to me … the reason you are so obsessed with me. You’re jealous. You are effing jealous … and it is soooooo obvious. That is why you whine rather than discuss. That is why you make everything so personal. You seem to forget that trying to tear others down is never a way to build yourself up. But … if it is all you have, its all you have. LOL

      • Frank stetson

        Glad you laughed. Humor Horist, it was a joke. No need to play the victim.

        • larry Horist

          Frank Stetson … Your attack on me was not a joke, and that is obvious no matter how you try to explain it away. Just another example of the problem with our pathetic obsession. It makes you go too far … to say stupid things…take up losing argument’s. And if you think that I feel victimized by your incipit comments, you are wrong. I actually see you as the victim of your own irrational obsession. You need to get a life … and maybe a shrink.

          • frank stetson

            Wow, now the Horist is defining the mythical Frank Stetson, funnier because I don’t exist, and telling us what he thinks I think. Losing argument? I am sorry, have you been tested for senility?

            It was a joke, you should quit being so defensive. Dude, we are both old. Can’t you seen the humor in these aspects of being old, what people say, and how we take it? If you don’t think your attack on Biden’s mental acuity is not a reflection on you and me as being from the same era (well, a little earlier in my case), you are smoking something.

            Given your inability to give and take, if you really believe I went to far, I have a solution. Cry me a river old man. Make your allegations. Call me some names. No different, just status quo for you.

            PS: Trump gaffs all the time, why not report:

            “I wrote this out, and it’s very close to my heart. Because I was down there, and I watched our police and our firemen down at 7/11 — down at the World Trade Center right after it came down.”

            “May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo; may God protect them. May God protect all of those, from Texas to Ohio. May God bless the victims and their families. May God bless America.” IT WAS DAYTON.

            “I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges, the oranges of the investigation, the beginnings of that investigation.”

            “Americans were getting “one million eight hundred and seventy thousand million tests.” Wow, that’s a lot…

            “(Putin) just said it’s not Russia. I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Turned out even Trump agreed Russia did it. Had to walk this one back, one of the few.

            Trump tells parents that they must “sacrifice for the furniture and future of their children.” I have a 1K bunkbed, I know, I know..

            “Hello, St. Louis” is funny when it’s Kansas City but funnier yet, he told the burned out town of Paradise the lived in Pleasure.

            Or when he fumbled God Bless America to supposed Eagle Fans on the White House lawn who all looked like besuited Republicans…. He got two lines out before humming.

            I have got hundreds of these, ready for your next old-man-shouldn’t-be-working-no-more story?

      • Mike f

        Larry, you really are senile. None of us are jealous of an ignorant old man such as yourself. Does lying make you feel good? Does it make you feel superior to others? You have repeatedly lied about me, so I think you are perhaps obsess with people who are not as stupid as you are. You refuse to recognize that the main concepts of the Republican Party-cut taxes, reduce sending, are harmful to the country. Frank is right-we know you are senile and reliving the glory days of the Republican Party-and can’t understand that the party has moved on and been taken over by corrupt fools…

        • larry Horist

          Mike f … HAPPY VENT DAY!!! The nice thing about venting if it does not require being knowledgeable or intelligent as you so aptly prove.

    • Sharp

      Wow, I have to say, that’s some pretty big opinionated and sticking it to judgemental talking right there. Tell me, were you bullied in school or just compensating for the gifts god DIDNT give you? Maybe both?
      I don’t know you and as a matter of fact I’m not familiar with this author or his works he has composed. I am familiar and aware of the world and keen to what’s going on it. I’m not replying to this as means to tell you one way or another how to be or live your life. I will tell you this though , right or wrong, everyone has their own way and own thoughts and feelings as yes opinions about any particular thing. This diversity is crucial to understanding and learning to grow as a human
      We get turned on to new ways or perspective on things, sometimes it could be a real life charging eye opener or someone. I’m asking you, instead of exerting all this anger and hate and pig headed one my way or the highway crap to slander someone else, STOP, ask yourself, is anything this person saying or doing inflicting harm or menance to me personally? or with intent towards others? Will anything this person doing or saying have direct impact on my life and or cause actual physical impedance in my life?
      I’m sure you will answer no to all of these things, also ask yourself, at the end of the day, is it really a big deal what this guy or anybody thinks or says? You may not agree but you could have expressed that in a very much more effective and constructive way than lashing out like a little bitch on her period and having everything go wring kind of day. Please for take care and be well, I’ll pray for you

      • Tom

        Oh Sharp, don’t take any of this too seriously. Larry is like a Howard Cosell bobble head and Mike f and Frank Stetson are like Muhammed Ali smacking Cosell. Maybe you are too young to remember the post fight interviews Cosell had with Ali, birth name Cassius Clay. Ali would word bash Cosell and Cosell would just give his stupid Cosell look and then ask another stupid question or make another stupid comment. And I am nothing more than the voice of moderation between them. I do learn a lot from both of their comments.

        As for your remark about women and their menstrual cycle, that is a bit inappropriate. I think most women will tell you they do not enjoy menstrual cycles and hate the mood swings and heat flashes they experience. To slander them as your comment does, is inappropriate. Perhaps you can consider praying for yourself first that God gives you some experiences that allow you to feel as women do during menstruation, and that he will explain women to you, including the differences between a human woman and a canine female.

        • larry Horist

          Tom … I see you cast me as the stupid bobble head…LOL Now I know you are losing it. And you always raise your “independent status” as if it is some badge of superiority — some arbiter of wisdom and truth. It does not make you an objective observer, however. Just another person with an opinion.

    • Sharp

      Wow, I have to say, that’s some pretty big opinionated and sticking it to judgemental talking right there. Tell me, were you bullied in school or just compensating for the gifts god DIDNT give you? Maybe both?
      I don’t know you and as a matter of fact I’m not familiar with this author or his works he has composed. I am familiar and aware of the world and keen to what’s going on it. I’m not replying to this as means to tell you one way or another how to be or live your life. I will tell you this though , right or wrong, everyone has their own way and own thoughts and feelings as yes opinions about any particular thing. This diversity is crucial to understanding and learning to grow as a human
      We get turned on to new ways or perspective on things, sometimes it could be a real life charging eye opener or someone. I’m asking you, instead of exerting all this anger and hate and pig headed one my way or the highway crap to slander someone else, STOP, ask yourself, is anything this person saying or doing inflicting harm or menace to me personally? or with intent towards others? Will anything this person doing or saying have direct impact on my life and or cause actual physical impedance in my life?
      I’m sure you will answer no to all of these things, also ask yourself, at the end of the day, is it really a big deal what this guy or anybody thinks or says? You may not agree but you could have expressed that in a very much more effective and constructive way than lashing out like a little bitch on her period and having everything go wring kind of day. Please for take care and be well, I’ll pray for you

  2. Dan tyree

    We would lose our country. But be ready. The game plan is to get retard joe out before the election. And then after more voter fraud it’s Kamala swearing to a lie and saying that she won. If it wasn’t so sad I would laugh at her type lying with hand on the Bible taking the oath of office. It’s scary.

    • Jim lucas

      A token

  3. Tom

    Well Frank and Larry, you did it again. I enjoyed your smack downs. Now for the Independent/Unaffiliated point of view that I have not given in a while. Sorry, I was out of country and without internet access.

    Its hard to fault Joe for the grandiose stories – notice I did not say lies, for a reason!). As a Gerontologist, I can tell you that elderly people often have very vivid dreams, sometimes caused by medications, sometimes caused by aging dementedness. And these dreams often appear very real to the point where the conscious mind will begin to believe them. While I have never trusted Joe for other reasons, I do not think he is purposefully lying. He is merely giving a recitation of recent vivid dreams which he believes actually happened. And his demented condition does not allow him to access his true memories so that he can correct himself and know the real truth. This is why I do not listen to his grandiose claims. He is really telling you his dreams as if they happened.

    Trump is much different. Fact checkers during his administration cited that 72% of the time he was telling some form of mis-truth. Trump purposefully lies because this is the nature of narcissism. In narcissism, a person makes themself grandiose, better than others, by building their alternative reality – which is the same as, and a nice way of saying “lying”. The difference is that Trump is told the truth and can process the truth. Trump chooses the lie because it fits in his alternative view of himself, and his grandiosity. Trump lies with purpose. The purpose is to build self, self esteem, and the more people he can get believing his lies, the more he feels his lies are the truth, thus his grandiosity is confirmed and all those people can’t be wrong, he must really be that great. Problem is, all those people are wrong. And example of this is his stolen election lies that he maintains.

    We Independents / unaffiliateds are praying someone other than Trump will win the GOP nomination. Our second prayer is a viable challenge to Joe before the election such as Manchin or Kennedy, or other. Our third prayer is a viable third party candidate that can receive enough votes from both sides to stop both Joe and Trump from being elected – but I am not sure how the constitution would handle this, but it may trigger a run off between the top two. .

    We see our country as in a life and death struggle right now and we do not like either option of senility or narcissism – both are unacceptable. We do not see Harris as electable, nor do we want her elected. Putting Harris at the top of the Dem ticket we see as Dem surrender, a gift to the GOP. However, I might be willing to listen to what she has to say, and if if it is reasonable, vote Harris and then GOP the rest of the downticket. Any reasonable Dem or GOP would be better than Trump. What will definitely come into play with Independents will be splitting our vote between tickets as a way to lesson the potential for any more damage by either party!

    • larry Horist

      Tom … You say “we independents” as if you are the representative or personification of all independent voters. Recent polls show Trump even or a bit ahead of Biden among independents. Maybe you represent a minority view. And your explanation for Biden’s malarky seems to suggest a more serious mental problem than currently reported. Welcome back.

      • Tom

        Well I have never claimed to represent all independent voters. But I do think like many of them. Today’s numbers (which poll are you discussing?) on CBS’s latest poll show that only about 25 % of voters are for Trump. 31% are dead set against Trump. And 44% of Independents are willing to look at others besides Trump. I do not think this speaks well for Trump, even if he is a few points ahead of Biden. Almost all Independents I speak with are disgusted with Biden and Trump and want other choices.

        On Biden mental state, heck yes its very serious! He is going in and out of reality. In my view he is unfit for the office. And it will get worse with longer stays in non-reality and shorter stays in reality. And you will see less and less of him because at this point, he expends great energy trying to stay in reality which weakens and tires him. The issue is what will he use as a basis for his decision and policy making? The real facts? The vivid dream facts? And how much will Jill Biden assert herself into government as an un-elected official and policy maker? Personally, I think she is much of the policy making now.

        A side note, Nancy Reagan did more running of the government in the last two years of the second Reagan administration. So this is not the first time one of our fearless leaders has lost their marbles and the wives ran the show. Ronny hid it well. Biden is at the point where its even hard for him to hide.

        Thanks for the welcome! I was in China for a month visiting friends. I did not have internet access behind the info wall. My phone worked really strange too! But I had a great time and visited six cities. Glad to be back!

        • larry Horist

          Tom … Just going by the polls. You impression of independent voters seems to be anecdotal. I understand. most of the Republicans i talk to here in Palm Beach County love Trump.

          I disagree about Nancy running things in the last two years. That is an old Dem trope. Reagan’s Alzheimer’s was long after he left. In his last year in office he was more sound of mind and body than Biden.

          I spent a lot of time in China in the great era after Mao and before Xi tightened his grip. Wonderful people … culture and amazing locations. They love Americans because we booted out the Japanese and repatriated so many Chinese people and property from Japan. I was surprised to hear you did not have any Internet access. That was not the case when I was last there in 2013. Xi has been a disaster. They were moving away from the old authoritarianism, but Xi pushed the pendulum back in the old direction. This time his policy is not isolation, like Mao, but domination, like Putin.

          • Tom

            Well again Larry, I would like to read the poll you are reading if you would be so kind as to state it. There is always a possibility that it is the poll you are reading that may be in error. Most polls on Independents I read my opinions are dead center. Personally, I really do not care about polls. I remain in that 7% that do not lean either direction and can be hard to predict. I know you have stated in the past that you think I lean right. I have consistently stated that I can lean right on some issues and left on other issues and then not agree with either left or right on still other issues. Again, the bottom line for me is that an independent has no party allegiance, votes based on issues and seeks the moral high ground in the issues, desires working government over party partisanship, wants to see results not excuses. I think I have given enough facts, surveys, polls, in my posts, and references, that I do not deserve the term anecdotal.

            As far as the internet in China goes, I had no way of establishing an account and downloading Baidu onto my phone. Thus I had no internet access. Yes the people were very nice to me. There is growing discontent with Xi but it is not openly discussed. Yeah I was in Nanjing (I think it was Sept 17) when at 7 a.m. I was awakened by lots of air raid sirens going off. I asked my friends what was going on. They said they always blast the sirens this morning to mark the day of the Japanese invasion of Nanjing. Yes Xi is pushing the pendulum backward, no doubt about that. The CGTN news network likes to end their newscast with a dig against the USA. But the people are still nice to Americans overall. Yes I saw many amazing cultural sites. Tienanmen Square and the imperial palaces were very impressive. Downtown Nanjing and the market street and financial district in Chengdu were very interesting. I took a train ride to most cities. I was amazed at how much of China is very high mountainous terrain. All in all, it was a great experience.

  4. frank stetson

    What country can you escape the internet? I gotta get me some of that :>)

    I hear ya, and we have yet to see Don’s replacement. I mean Scott, DeSantis, Ramaswampy, Greene, Gaetz—- the short list makes Kamala look like Reagan……

    But who cares: the big care-about is what you do when Trump is convicted of something more, anything. Will the decision metrics change when you add a felony or two.

    The new Hutchinson book will be a barn-burner —– Horist can probably provide insight as to possible White House behaviors and the potential for her stories to be true. Based on my friends who worked there across a number of regimes, oh yeah.. Gotta love the he said, she said re Gaetz groping —- he says they dated and parted friends, she says “bwhattttt dating?” That’s gotta burn. But Gaetz, Rudy, all hit on her which, IMO, speaks well of Meadows given he may be the one male in close proximity that didn’t. Rudy? under 25. That’s just sick. She also said John Bohner pulled her ponytail and said something but it’s John. I bet he was just being Biden cute and a bit out of touch with the times. I give him the mulligan.

    For Larry, and one of may favorite shows by the band of the same name

    Old and in the way, that’s what I heard them say
    They used to heed the words he said, but that was yesterday
    Gold will turn to gray and youth will fade away
    They’ll never care about you, call you old and in the way

    • Tom

      I was in China visiting friends. I could not load Baidu (their version of Google) on my phone because I did not have a VPN account, and, I do not read Chinese characters. And Google is no longer in China, nor is Yahoo, AOL, or Facebook. So I was pretty SOL. But in a way it was good because I did not hear anything on Trump, Bidens, or anything else political for three weeks! This in itself was a vacation! LOL

      • frank stetson

        Mainland China was a deep regret for me. More so since a close relative is fluent in language and country and I could have hopped a free trip to Szechwan, the region, not the food. They stay at like 400 year old B&B’s cause it’s like home to them, eat local, travel like the Chinese, it would have been so real, so cool. My relative started going over in the 80’s as a student. After that last trip, they had their kids and tagging along would mean I would be a baby sitter so I think this ship has passed. They showed pictures of a mountain park, like our National Parks, and the signage was in English, but better English than our Park signs. I was impressed and really pissed I let the opportunity go…….for work no less….

        So, just Hong Kong for me, a number of times, and Hong Kong is not China. It’s something unique.

        Japan is my fav so far, I just love those folks, we laugh, we drink, it becomes part of us. Give me the Ginza and you can take Soho, the Bastille, Berlin, etc. I don’t know why, but I just crack a smile and keep laughing the whole time. Fun folks (if not with their boss). Although, I never made South America or Africa, so sad, but I followed the money…..

        Glad you had the opportunity, sounds like you did it right.

  5. Darren

    How anyone can defend Old Joe is beyond me.
    If he was some old guy in a senior center I would be saying get off this old guys back, leave him alone, and
    never mind his story’s, it makes him feel better.

    But this is who the Half of the country voted for, you know the Dumb, not seeing this coming half.
    This alone tells me the majority of the country 3 years ago was as crazy as old Joe.
    If you are a Democrat, close your eyes AGAIN and wish him into office again you crazy dumb Bastards!

    • Dan tyree

      They should vote a straight republican ticket. Nobody would have to know. And they could just stay in the closet as democrats and their comrades would never know and retaliate against them. I’m speaking of Frank and Tom.

      • tom

        Dan, you really should write your posts in such a way that they do not reveal your IQ. I have said in almost every post that I am an Independent/Unaffiliated voter. I have said that I have no love or need for either party. You seem to have missed this point in all of the many posts that I have written.

        So let me spell it out just for you one more time. I vote on issues, not party line. As an Independent, I want results, not rhetoric. Independents want to see a successful country no matter which party is in charge! I will vote for the people I think will do this country the and its population the most good for the most people, and that will bring about the most success. As you have missed it, I will say it again, that I will most likely split my ticket. And as I have said many times before, I hope a third solution of some kind surfaces to solve the Biden versus Trump freak show the media is trying to create.

        Do you get me now Dan?

        • Dan tyree

          Sorry Tom. My bad. But I’m more of a libertarian. The problem is that they ain’t a National Party yet. And I sure can’t trust democrats. And the GOP is not the greatest on some issues. I try to vote for more personal freedom. I saw a poll posted that most democrats think that we have too much freedom. Good for them. Cuba, china and n Korea would probably receive them

          • Tom

            Thanks for the apology Dan. I appreciate you. Yeah I am disgusted with both parties and do not think either party can be trusted. Most of those democrats you are speaking of are the very liberal ones. They drown out all of the moderates and conservative Dems – they are the squeaky wheel that is getting the Dem grease. . In my view, both parties need to do a real purge. Like you, I am big on personal freedoms and the responsibilities that come with those freedoms. Yeah the libertarian party just can’t seem to generate the horsepower to impact the political landscape on a national level. I would vote Libertarian or Independent before voting for either Biden or Trump. It may take an unconnected outsider to get things back into shape and focus the Congress on results for the people rather than for the votes.

          • larry Horist

            Tom …. Surprise1 Surprise! I am not locked into the GOP. Never have been. I have been a conservative first. That is why I have voted and worked for Democrats. I also have misgivings about both parties today — as institutions. The GOP is just the best vehicle in which to pursue my beliefs. Republicans do not have a coherent or consistent platform. Perhaps that is why Trump cancelled a published platform in 2020. Of course, i have long believed that the party platforms were relatively uninformative and little to do with governance. In reality, the candidate (president) sets the agenda. On the other hand I am in stark opposition to the leftwing , big federal governments authoritarianism of the Democratic Party. I see that as the greatest threat to democracy and conservative principles of limited governments and maximum personal freedom. Authority rising from the people is democracy. Not authority imposed by elites from atop. Our federal government has become Frankenstein’s Monster — no longer obeying the master (we the people) but running amok on its own destructive agenda.

  6. Frank stetson

    Trump now adjudicated as liable for fraud, sex abuse, defamation, and “digital” rape. Convictions for fraud in NY look strong.

    • Jim lucas

      Great!!!! You can get together with your comrades and toast the destruction of a good man. Have yourself a n orgy too

      • Tom

        I do not celebrate the demise of anyone, Dem or GOP. But I am grateful for Providence! If Trump is your definition of a good man, then we are all in trouble regardless of party.

      • Frank stetson

        Yes, it’s too bad he did this to himself.

        But he is proving he has not been a good man for decades.

        And now he won’t be able to do business in NY. Unless he prevails in appeal, doubtful. More important, his NY criminal charges are looking more like a slam dunk conviction.

        Donate today so he can clear his tarnished name.

        • Jim lucas

          It’s interesting that you people aren’t talking about the Biden scandal. And I’m not talking about hunter Biden. But circle the wagons and protect joe He’s as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks. But that’s ok. He’s a damned democrat. You people are two faced hypocrites. And God help anyone who mentions the Hillary emails. I know. Nobody proved anything. But obstruction of justice was as plain as the nose on your face. But that’s ok. She’s a damned democrat. It’s amazing that the senator from NJ ain’t getting support from his party. But that will probably change. The last time he was charged and tried the democrats supported him. They must realize that the case is strong and that he probably doesn’t have a suicide list. That been said, get ready for Trump being re-elected

          • Tom

            Jim, I have talked plenty about the Biden scandals in other posts. Evidence is still coming on on Joe and the family so there is no conviction yet. Hunter should be convicted and do jail time. I think his special treatment is coming to an end. I want to know why Bidens have 20 shell LLC accounts with six and seven figure deposits not traceable to any work or product. I want to know why 150 bank alerts never being examined. I want to know what the Chinese bank sent the US government on Biden’s finances. The difference is the authorities despite executive branch interference are still digging up Biden dirt, and there so far are no charges or convictions. Trump has been convicted several times and is a digital rapist, yet I cannot find him on any sex offender list like your kid would be if they did the same thing. He will very soon be convicted of tax fraud in NY and be banned from practicing business there. His company was convicted earlier of tax fraud. I hope someone will investigate the Bidens with the same energy as they are going after Trump. I hope they share a cell together! Biden has the same interest in being president as Trump – escape charges and thwart investigations. That is why I do not want either running for office. I hope this clarifies my position and calms your emotions. Take care!

          • frank stetson

            Be clear: there is evidence on Hunter, James and perhaps some other family members. There is no shared evidence on Joe Biden except tenuous snippets like “the big guy,” and “hello, glad to meet you,” and some documents of no real implications.

            Hunter’s tax evasion should have penalties, the gun charge is unusual to prosecute and I think the 2A boys are fighting it in other venues as a 2A issue (before Hunter came up). He is a cad, but a cad that deserves a second chance until he falls again. As to James and the others who may have taken money; one at a time, in court, and innocent until, but IMO, if there’s a money trail, then they are dirty.

            As of the first blockbuster inquiry session with three, count em, three witnesses, there is NO CHANGE to the known evidence.

            Trump is a horse of another color all together. He is liable, his company is criminal, and there are still 4 indictments, 91 charges, of which 34 are felonies, as well as a plethora of civil cases. He will get nailed on the NYS, just waiting for the penalty, hope they take Mar A Largo, would serve him right since he stole it to begin with. He will get nailed again by EJ Carroll for defamation and potentially millions. I am guessing at some point it may get like running up the score in the 4th quarter and perhaps he will finally plead out for a lesser penalty.

            Just not sure how you see similarities there between Trump and Biden without projecting some other bias.

  7. Darren

    I am for President Trump. He is Arrogant, Bombastic, Know it all, and a womanizing individual, and with all that baggage he is a better president than any Republican president in my life time.
    He does the one thing the job was meant to do.
    He leads the country the way the PEOPLE want and need it to be lead.
    Every other president talks a bunch of crap, and then does their own leading that only benefits the mega donners, and their own interests.
    You can not tell me for one second that Biden, Bush, Clintons, never sold me and those writing here out to enrich their own pockets and
    left our country worse than when they ran!

  8. Somebody

    I detect an AI troll here, as usual.

    • larry Horist

      Somebody … where is that AI troll you detect? I know I am not, but which of the responders are your referring to? Just curious.